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 Posted: Fri, 7th Jul 2006 20:50 Post subject: Booting from External SATA |
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Hello
I have an Icybox external case, inside is a ATA 80GB Hard drive, this is connected to my computer using SATA cable to a SATA external port which comes form my motherboard, which has 2 built in external sata ports (nforce 4 A8N-SLI)
I would like to boot from this external drive as I was led to believe that having an external drive SATA as long as its from a SATA external connector will appear to windows as if it was internal which makes perfect sense to me.
When i turn the power on however and boot the machine it just loads my boot loader and i cannot see it.
When i log into windows and click on my computer, and device manager it says unknown devices are RAID & USB device but it says this when the SATA drive isnt plugged in, also says under ATA, i have nforce 4 Serial ATA controller x 2 and then nforce 4 parallel ata controller,
When i boot from a windows disk or run a linux partiton prgram it does not pick up the drive, I am wondering what I am doing wrong and how i should boot/find the SATA device
Thanks alot
another thought i know SATA doesnt use slave or primary so is it because of this? Do i need to somehow switch which drive to use, switch my other one off and see if the external one then shows up?
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Jul 2006 02:27 Post subject: |
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for starters, it doesn't matter how windows sees the drive. Its how your bios sees the drive for booting.
intel ultra 7 265k, 64gb ram, 3070
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Jul 2006 21:08 Post subject: |
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As the RAID COntroller was in device manager as unknown devices and i was advised this was the SATA drive itself or a function to allow it, I clicked update driver and told it to search motherboard driver cd to which it then installed
In storage snap in in the admin settings in control panel it said HD1, red sign saying not initialized and it was 74GB which is defo the external sata drive, so i then booted the machine back up
press ctrl + s to go into RADI config like it always does but below that it said 1: maxtor 6l080l0 74gb at this point i press enter as it always hangs there unless i dont,wqhen i click enter it says no valid device press any key to continue or enter raid config ctrl + s
If i press any key it goes onto the list where it shows all comp devices and then after that goes into windows loading screen however it just hangs at this screen
When i remove the sata drive and reboot I no longer hav e this problem.
If i go into RAID config i have the options create raid set delete raid set rebuild raid1 set resolve conflicts low level format logical drive info
Below this it shows the physical drive maxtor again 74GB
I dont know what to do as im not trying to set up RAID i will not be using the drives at the same time, In the motherboard cd it has a make silicon bootable floppy for sata drive or something and make nvidia bootable floppy for sata drive,
I assumed it would simply pick the SATA drive up in a partition view and i could install an OS to it from a bootbale CD but I cant boot from a CD when the SATA drive is connected
WHat should i do?
Thanks so much again
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Jul 2006 18:17 Post subject: |
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After low level format on the raid controller options i put in the ubuntu cd went to install it, Got to the partition part and it found the hard drive, I formatted the drive installed UBuntu to it but at the part where it asked about grub boot loader it said it has found ubuntu and windows which was on the primary main HD, i clicked yes which now i believe i shouldnt of.
When loading it said booting from local drive and just hanged there and after turning the drive off it then says grub load error, When i go into BIOS the drive still is not picked up as 2nd SATA master, what should i do, and what did I do wrong?
Thanks
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Jul 2006 21:29 Post subject: |
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my story in full again
Hello, I have an external ICYBOX with a 80gb ATA drive inside, and USB/SATA connection from the icybox, I want to install WIndows and linux to it as a multiboot for testing purposes as a mess about/test OS and also for security reasons.
I already have a 300GB SATA internal drive and as a note my computer specs are as follows:
AMD 4400 64Bit X2 - 2gb ram - nforce 4 a8n-sli Motherboard
WIndows XP and Ubuntu 6.06 are installing on this drive using the GRUB Loader
Now i have an expansion card with 2 SATA connectors and an unknown white connector in the middle, I connect the external drive to one of these, now when I do this I dont see it under windows/linux, when i make the connection USB i see the drive pop up and then say it is installed but I dont see it on the machine.
On device manager I had RAID Controller in unknown hardware and then i clicked update driver and selected motherboard cd, then im not sure if this made it worked but in local storage snap in in control panel it showed the drive and said not initilizaed.
As the RAID COntroller was in device manager was unknown devices and i was advised this was the SATA drive itself or a function to allow it, I clicked update driver and told it to search motherboard driver cd to which it then installed
In storage snap in in the admin settings in control panel it said HD1, red sign saying not initialized and it was 74GB which is defo the external sata drive, so i then booted the machine back up
press ctrl + s to go into RADI config like it always does but below that it said 1: maxtor 6l080l0 74gb at this point i press enter as it always hangs there unless i dont,wqhen i click enter it says no valid device press any key to continue or enter raid config ctrl + s
If i press any key it goes onto the list where it shows all comp devices and then after that goes into windows loading screen however it just hangs at this screen
When i remove the sata drive and reboot I no longer have this problem.
If i go into RAID config i have the options create raid set delete raid set rebuild raid1 set resolve conflicts low level format logical drive info
Below this it shows the physical drive maxtor again 74GB
I dont know what to do as im not trying to set up RAID i will not be using the drives at the same time, In the motherboard cd it has a make silicon bootable floppy for sata drive or something and make nvidia bootable floppy for sata drive,
I assumed it would simply pick the SATA drive up in a partition view and i could install an OS to it from a bootbale CD but I cant boot from a CD when the SATA drive is connected.
After low level format on the raid controller options i put in the ubuntu cd went to install it, Got to the partition part and it found the hard drive, I formatted the drive installed UBuntu to it but at the part where it asked about grub boot loader it said it has found ubuntu and windows which was on the primary main HD, i clicked yes which now i believe i shouldnt of.
When loading it said booting from local drive and just hanged there and after turning the drive off it then says grub load error, When i go into BIOS the drive still is not picked up as 2nd SATA master.
I then reinstalled linux the same way and at the GRUB stage selected HD1 instead to install to not the master boot record, now i can boot into windows and ubuntu on my internal drive but when i actually connect the external it just says booting from local disk and hangs on that
What am i doing wrong?
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jul 2006 10:28 Post subject: |
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drive not initialized? are you sure it isn't?
if it's a new drive, it probably isn't yet, and should be
in any case the bootloader will be put on primary master
you should remove any reference to booting from the external controller form bios and let it boot from internal disk, only to be overridable by the CD/DVD drive
when you run the windows installer, there's a brief period in the first blue screen you see with text on the bottom reading something like "press F6 now to install a raid or scsi adapter" or something similiar
get a drivers for the adapter and put it on a floppy disk, hit f6 in that spot and offer it the driver
windows needs this driver at this point to be able to load up the drive on the device to do anything with it
| Quote: | | I cant boot from a CD when the SATA drive is connected. |
odd
i have a tekram sata controller (relabeled silicon image) and if i have it plugged in, i can't boot form a cd either
i wonder what the point of that is
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jul 2006 13:51 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I had a feeling you might need to go into that, But then I thought SCSI and RAID is not what I am trying to do, Its SATA, but i guess is a SCSI like device yeah, That not initilized no longer is there as i was able to install linux to it successfully just cant boot into the thing.
I will have to open up my computer and look at the SATA External slot and see if i can find a name on there to download a driver for it, or do you mean a driver for the board?
THanks again
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Jul 2006 14:49 Post subject: |
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the controller driver if you want to load it in the beginning of the setup
make sure you put the whole driver on the floppy disk, so that the txtsetup.oem file is at the root of it (if your driver package doesn't have that file, you haven't got the correct driver package.. the setup looks for that file for driver configuration)
in any case, it's a bad idea
i hope you're not planning on moving the drive about different setups
major changes in the host system structure will properly mess up a windows installation fast
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