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| FusionDexterity wrote: | | pistolshrimp wrote: | | FusionDexterity wrote: | | No I just carry a bottle of bleach. |
What is bleach going to do. It stinks, everyone is going to know you used it? |
So you got hold of my scent. |
So, that is your 'superpower' Bleach man to the rescue. ... LOL
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 11:49 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | I just think in a group of 6 one of you guys would of figured out something was happening before it happened. This guy would of been walking fast to get close enough so you could hear him. |
 So you're telling me whenever you're walking in a group of people you walk at the same pace as you do when you're walking alone? We were just strolling along and having a laugh.
You can't tell when someone gets a knife out or whatever, it could so easily have been a mobile phone or a wallet. You're going to shit yourself every time someone reaches into their pocket?
You're just overly paranoid and unlike you I don't feel any fear when I go outside and why should I? Shit happens, if someone's going to stab me in the back from behind there's not a lot I can do about it really.
There's no need for a code word. Like I said we were on guard and ready. We all carried on walking even when he got the knife out too. no need to come to a standstill because that would have started it. If someone pulls a knife out and starts attacking your friends you don't need to say a code word before you try to act.
Maybe it's you who's not street smart and has to go by the book rather than on instinct. |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 20:20 Post subject: |
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| Sublime wrote: | | pistolshrimp wrote: | | I just think in a group of 6 one of you guys would of figured out something was happening before it happened. This guy would of been walking fast to get close enough so you could hear him. |
So you're telling me whenever you're walking in a group of people you walk at the same pace as you do when you're walking alone? We were just strolling along and having a laugh.
You can't tell when someone gets a knife out or whatever, it could so easily have been a mobile phone or a wallet. You're going to shit yourself every time someone reaches into their pocket?
You're just overly paranoid and unlike you I don't feel any fear when I go outside and why should I? Shit happens, if someone's going to stab me in the back from behind there's not a lot I can do about it really.
There's no need for a code word. Like I said we were on guard and ready. We all carried on walking even when he got the knife out too. no need to come to a standstill because that would have started it. If someone pulls a knife out and starts attacking your friends you don't need to say a code word before you try to act.
Maybe it's you who's not street smart and has to go by the book rather than on instinct. |
My friends and I don’t walk anywhere. We drive. Walking=kids with no car.
If I am walking around my neighbourhood alone, I take my dog. He thinks he is a weapon when he is on the lease. For the most part people who are after jumping someone will chose an easier target.
You are right that you can’t tell when someone has a knife or just pulling out their cell phone. But before they even did that I would have already sized them up.
You are probably right about me being paranoid. My girlfriend from a small town said that to me once because I didn’t answer my front door.
Maybe you would be paranoid too if you were approached 3 times a week on average by guys trying to solicit you for sex. I don’t even look like a hooker. Most of the time I am wearing running shoes, tee-shirt and jeans. I can’t even wear my hair down it is just asking for trouble. When one of my best friends was 7 months pregnant guys would run outta coffee shops trying to force money into her hands for sex. You can be at some bus stop minding your own business and some bunch of guys will drive by and just grab you. No one is going to help you. It is an awful feeling when the car keeps circling around the block.
Maybe I am paranoid too because I worked in a hospital. For the most part I didn’t have to deal with patients directly, only special care nursery and morning rounds. Some of the really bad stuff gets back to me, it not like I ask why their face is slashed wide open or why someone chopped their hand off with a machete. When some guy hits a women, he hits her like he would hit another man. Other people don’t seem to realize that. It is really shocking what people are capable of. I saw a kid, maybe 14 after he was jumped, he was unrecognisable. He was a foster care kid. It haunts me. He died. I even get to see the guys that do these things. Handcuffed to the bed with armed guards inside the room. Usually they are crying like they feel bad for what they did. They are disturbed.
About the code word. Time for code word is way before anything happens. Code word happens before the creep has even realised that you are there
I don’t know if I am street smart or not. If you want to be king of street smart you have my blessing. You are not a stupid guy and I think you can probably read people pretty well probably better then me. I have been tainted by some warped stuff which no doubt affects me and my ability to read situations.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 20:51 Post subject: |
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Walking = exercise. I have a car, but I always walk if i'm going down town because I live nearby.
I have no idea what it's like where you live Pistol, but it sounds like hell.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 21:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 21:27 Post subject: |
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A year or so ago I was planning to meet my mates at a club in town and decide to get on the train.
I'm sitting shivering wainting for my train and a large group of 15-17? year olds turn up and one sits next to me.
He starts swinging his feet as he's so young/short his feet dont reach the ground. He kicks me says sorry and thats that.
The train pulls up a few minutes later and we queue as the other passengers get off.
But one has obviously looked at this short kid in the wrong way, they yell at each other a bit then the kid pulls out a knife, Me and the other passengers get on another carraige, the driver eventually pulls off and gets to the next station which if full of police by the time we arrive.
Just shows how easily stuff kicks off.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 21:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 21:46 Post subject: |
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| Basil-Brush wrote: | A year or so ago I was planning to meet my mates at a club in town and decide to get on the train.
I'm sitting shivering wainting for my train and a large group of 15-17? year olds turn up and one sits next to me.
He starts swinging his feet as he's so young/short his feet dont reach the ground. He kicks me says sorry and thats that.
The train pulls up a few minutes later and we queue as the other passengers get off.
But one has obviously looked at this short kid in the wrong way, they yell at each other a bit then the kid pulls out a knife, Me and the other passengers get on another carraige, the driver eventually pulls off and gets to the next station which if full of police by the time we arrive.
Just shows how easily stuff kicks off. |
Sounds like everyday life for me in the skytrain. Only without the police or transit cops.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 03:24 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | snop1050 wrote: | i dont carry knives but i once had my wifes hairdessing gear in one of my pockets. scissors , cuthroat razor etc.
some guy starts yelling shit at me from the upstairs window of a bus ,so i shout back "fuck off" and carry on walking down the road , the bus stops and guy actually gets off the bus with 2 friends  ,they start running towards me so i pull out the cuthroat razor and the guy says "im sorry i thought you were someone i know" to which i replied "you must know alot of 6"6 guys with hair going down to there shoulder blades" and carry on walking 
btw when i was around 8 at the local park i found a massive rambo type knife lieing in some bushs  , what kinda fucking moron leaves something like that where kids are likely to find it |
Same reason you find full paper flaps and little crack bags in the park. It's called getting rid of the evidence when the cops are chasing you down. |
hahaha
so i take it you've ditched some ganja and have leaped over a few bushes/fences?
Fuck, I know i have
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 09:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 10:24 Post subject: |
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We were walking because there were 6 of us and only 1 car. Usually there's 9 of us, but the 2 others with cars had to stay in and do some work. Plus it was a nice day out so we walked the 10 min trip to town, then had something eat and had a kick about on the park for a few hours.
I wish all school days were like that and so laid back
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 10:33 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Walking = exercise. I have a car, but I always walk if i'm going down town because I live nearby.
I have no idea what it's like where you live Pistol, but it sounds like hell. |
It wouldn’t be so bad if we had less crack heads. Heroin guys are pretty passive, they just pass out and go to sleep. Where my house is, it isn’t that bad unless they are ripping a house down and then the squatters move in. Even then, except for the shitting in the street, it is not that bad. I live in an area that is mostly East Indian. They are pretty much family people. I am the only white person in a 3 block radius which is partly why they think I am a hooker. White people in my area are all hookers.
Because BC it has a warmer climate, it attracts all the shit from all over Canada. We have the safe injection sites and there is some program that gives addicts free drugs. From what I understand now you can call some number and people come over and help you shoot up so you can do it safely.
I think the majority of our crime is because of drug (meth) addiction. It is so bad lots of people don’t even lock their car and just put a sign out that says “crack heads, no money in this car” because they get sick of replacing the locks. Home invasions are so common, they are not even in the local paper anymore. Usually home invasions have to do with the grow op’s rip offs..
We don’t really have punks walking around beating people up for fun. Usually it is for money. I think our kids are more into protecting their back then they are causing shit for fun.
When my best friends son was still a baby, some guy walking behind us said “give me your money, I have a gun” He was an addict. We ignored him and crossed the street with the stroller. When we got to her house we talked about it. It was so surreal. We were both asking each other if that really happened. I did something horrible too. I changed sides away from the guy, leaving the kid right in the open. I didn’t mean to do that but it just happened. She has never called me on it at all but I still know what I did. You know what is funny. My house has almost doubled from when I first bought it.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 14:00 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | Walking = exercise. I have a car, but I always walk if i'm going down town because I live nearby.
I have no idea what it's like where you live Pistol, but it sounds like hell. |
It wouldn’t be so bad if we had less crack heads. Heroin guys are pretty passive, they just pass out and go to sleep. Where my house is, it isn’t that bad unless they are ripping a house down and then the squatters move in. Even then, except for the shitting in the street, it is not that bad. I live in an area that is mostly East Indian. They are pretty much family people. I am the only white person in a 3 block radius which is partly why they think I am a hooker. White people in my area are all hookers.
Because BC it has a warmer climate, it attracts all the shit from all over Canada. We have the safe injection sites and there is some program that gives addicts free drugs. From what I understand now you can call some number and people come over and help you shoot up so you can do it safely.
I think the majority of our crime is because of drug (meth) addiction. It is so bad lots of people don’t even lock their car and just put a sign out that says “crack heads, no money in this car” because they get sick of replacing the locks. Home invasions are so common, they are not even in the local paper anymore. Usually home invasions have to do with the grow op’s rip offs..
We don’t really have punks walking around beating people up for fun. Usually it is for money. I think our kids are more into protecting their back then they are causing shit for fun.
When my best friends son was still a baby, some guy walking behind us said “give me your money, I have a gun” He was an addict. We ignored him and crossed the street with the stroller. When we got to her house we talked about it. It was so surreal. We were both asking each other if that really happened. I did something horrible too. I changed sides away from the guy, leaving the kid right in the open. I didn’t mean to do that but it just happened. She has never called me on it at all but I still know what I did. You know what is funny. My house has almost doubled from when I first bought it. |
That place sounds awful..  MOVE! Or start some kind of rehab-home for the junkies/alcoholics/whatever.. and turn your "hood" into a better place
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2006 22:18 Post subject: |
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I use knives everyday, they are VERY useful when when it comes to slicing Bread or Cheese
or chopping vegggies.
But i think people wearing it for "killing/fighting purposes" should be lobotomized immediately.
It's not a great loss they'll take.
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@nouse
damn, you'd think toronto would have more crime. Its nice to know our streets arent 'statistically' bad...even tho toronto streets and ghetto's are fuckin tough.
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| SycoShaman wrote: | @nouse
damn, you'd think toronto would have more crime. Its nice to know our streets arent 'statistically' bad...even tho toronto streets and ghetto's are fuckin tough. |
yeah, I guess there's just a lot of good areas and only a few bad ones ... I mean really just rexdale and Jane/Finch are the only trouble spots left ... even parkdale, regent park, malvern have all improved ...
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jun 2006 21:32 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: |
It wouldn’t be so bad if we had less crack heads. Heroin guys are pretty passive, they just pass out and go to sleep. Where my house is, it isn’t that bad unless they are ripping a house down and then the squatters move in. Even then, except for the shitting in the street, it is not that bad. I live in an area that is mostly East Indian. They are pretty much family people. I am the only white person in a 3 block radius which is partly why they think I am a hooker. White people in my area are all hookers.
Because BC it has a warmer climate, it attracts all the shit from all over Canada. We have the safe injection sites and there is some program that gives addicts free drugs. From what I understand now you can call some number and people come over and help you shoot up so you can do it safely.
I think the majority of our crime is because of drug (meth) addiction. It is so bad lots of people don’t even lock their car and just put a sign out that says “crack heads, no money in this car” because they get sick of replacing the locks. Home invasions are so common, they are not even in the local paper anymore. Usually home invasions have to do with the grow op’s rip offs..
We don’t really have punks walking around beating people up for fun. Usually it is for money. I think our kids are more into protecting their back then they are causing shit for fun.
When my best friends son was still a baby, some guy walking behind us said “give me your money, I have a gun” He was an addict. We ignored him and crossed the street with the stroller. When we got to her house we talked about it. It was so surreal. We were both asking each other if that really happened. I did something horrible too. I changed sides away from the guy, leaving the kid right in the open. I didn’t mean to do that but it just happened. She has never called me on it at all but I still know what I did. You know what is funny. My house has almost doubled from when I first bought it. |
Here's another example of how society fails. These people shouldn't be on the loose. They should be in labour camps and/or dead already. Parasites [...] a vesicle on today's society. They do no good whatsoever. To me people have a value, if you can subsidize to your state you have got the value 2. If you got no job but are potentially ready to work ASAP you are 1 and the people who are reactionary are therefor 0. If you are of no use of the state, you should be detained and your access to every day society will be excised.
The state does not need people who makes the country go back to year zero. A systematic machinery should be installed to prevent 0's to be free. State owned factories where they produce various consumer goods at a never-ending assembly line would be appropriate or - as mentioned - labour camps to get rid of grime from our streets.
I can't see myself in your situation, but for a couple of years ago the situation was almost the same - according to your descriptions - fortunatley the police cleared things up and got rid of the junkies. The bad thing is that they will be getting out on the streets sooner or later again.
If you got cancer, you want to remove it, right? Let's pretend the state is the body and the reactionaries are the cancer.
To get back on topic:
People are carrying knives because the people got too much freedom. Renounce freedom and you will renounce crime.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jun 2006 23:25 Post subject: |
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I want my taxes to help people back on track government sponsored rehabilitation centers helps alot of people right on track and after that they contribute to the society once again. Some of those kids you see outside your door with a needle in his/her's hands are people which have been failed by others, they have been abused, or ignored by family and friends. Now do these people need to be killed for that?
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jun 2006 23:31 Post subject: |
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| Nailbiter wrote: |
oh, i see you finally finnished mein kampf. 
well to be fair the same ideas could pretty much be applied to any totalitarian doctrine. |
Of course they can.
For the record I do not reffer to Mein Kampf. That book is made by a national socialist which I'm certainly not. The basis of national socialism is to put the people (race) at first, this does not apply to the corporistic fascist doctrine eventhough national socialism spawned from Mussolini's and Giovanni's ideas of fascism. It works in the same way as any leftist ideology is. They are all (almost eveyone) based on the ideas of Karl Marx (and his companions).
All I want is to get people to know about a growing problem which won't be tolerated at all. Freedom is a whore we love to adore, it's as simple as that. I'm not saying we should sacrifice freedom for saftey, but something has to be done. I don't want to live like in North Korea or in fictional Britain which is pictured in V For Vendetta. But to achieve great things we have to sacrifice. I'm having a hard time to believe that anyone really want this problem to go on. You don't want to live in neighbourhoods like Pistolshrimp.
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I want my taxes to help people back on track government sponsored rehabilitation centers helps alot of people right on track and after that they contribute to the society once again. Some of those kids you see outside your door with a needle in his/her's hands are people which have been failed by others, they have been abused, or ignored by family and friends. Now do these people need to be killed for that?
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Yes, but the rehabilitation have to give the patients a greater impact. The rehabilitation have failed, alot of people are going back into the addiction again. If there's nothing we can do to get them out of the drugs a labour camp would be the perfect alternative to get them out of the way.
The kids got an alternative. Eventhough they've might been abused, beaten, betrayed by family they still had the option to insert the needle of just turn their backs and leave. They might would have lost their familiy when walking out of the door but they would have been taken care of by an orphanage or something. In the end they are themselves to blame even they might not have put themselves in that situation.
EDIT: Added answer to Mutantius in this post
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jun 2006 23:47 Post subject: |
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The state and government are there to serve the people, not the other way around.
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Better Personal and more focus to the centers might improve the numbers "cured" people. Force drug addicts to labour camps is a thing which doesnt belong in the 21st century. The question is how you improve the lives of youngsters living in the poor district.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jun 2006 08:11 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | | Better Personal and more focus to the centers might improve the numbers "cured" people. Force drug addicts to labour camps is a thing which doesnt belong in the 21st century. The question is how you improve the lives of youngsters living in the poor district. |
To me it looks like the personell are well-trained for what they are doing. Rehabilitation is a expensive process aswell. Of course I want people to be off the drugs but you have to start working with the people who got the best chances to get out of their addiction.
Labour camps doesn't have to be like hell. Of course the standard have to be rather bad for the inmates. Labour camps are good for things like building infrastructure for example, that would save alot of time to let them do that. By not having high standards it won't turn out like it has in some cases in Sweden were people from former Soviet-"influenced" countries came there to commit crime and get into jail just because the standard was far better at the jails than in their homes. There has to be a balance.
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The state and government are there to serve the people, not the other way around.
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The state will serve the people when it is strong enough. If a state is poor, the people have to take the hit. The development of society will be rapid and then it may serve the people.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jun 2006 10:54 Post subject: |
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| Bagshatar wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: |
The state and government are there to serve the people, not the other way around.
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The state will serve the people when it is strong enough. If a state is poor, the people have to take the hit. The development of society will be rapid and then it may serve the people. |
Well isn't that the case then? Canada is strong enough to support these druggies so that's what it is doing.
Labour camps etc. is a loada BS. You have some fucked up beliefs. |
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So people with disabilities are a burden? You can't really say someone with a severe disease / health problem are a benefit to society. Should these be exterminated, because no labour camp can correct these?
People do get rehabilitated. It's called Prison. These effects don't work as well as they should, but they fit into quite a lot of the categories you mention; working for the state, producing goods. I don't see how working on a brainless production line will teach these people about morals and the real world. What it will do is keep the drug abusers off the drugs but it won't stop their cravings if they ever got out.
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