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| joluboga wrote: | | GexX2 wrote: | | qrdel wrote: | finally, no starforce!!! Does this mean that upcoming Resident Evil 4 and Splinter Cell 4 are not gonna be protected by that shit?? Tremendous.... I knew that it wouldn't last for long. Lots of people were having problem with ORYGINAL games bought in shops (not to mention pirate releases that were sometimes not so crappy at all) so finallly and after all UBI went to look for their brains... hope they wont find out something evern worser than starforce... but.. could anything be worser...  |
TAGES is worse to some. But TAGES is easy to bypass if someone would just make a program that can do THIS |
i'm already working on it xD |
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$en$i
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2006 08:10 Post subject: |
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| hurley wrote: | | go see how healthy are the russians. most of them are addicted severely to alcohol from age of 15... |
Well, i have been to russia, and they are not as drunk as the 15 yo english one... stereotypes... always irrelevant.
| IcedFreon wrote: | | im guessing hes one of those french canadians. |
You have something against those "french canadians" (Québécois FYI) ? Do they have, as a whole, something special? I would love to read that...
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2006 08:19 Post subject: |
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If Ubisoft truely wanted to redeem itself, they's release patches without SF for games that had it...
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2006 08:20 Post subject: |
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| $en$i wrote: | | hurley wrote: | | go see how healthy are the russians. most of them are addicted severely to alcohol from age of 15... |
Well, i have been to russia, and they are not as drunk as the 15 yo english one... stereotypes... always irrelevant. |
And where you been, Moscow or some other major city, visited few famous places? Go to small villages with lots of poverty and you'll see what hurley said is true. And its not only in Russia, in most of eastern europe countries especially ex USSR countries situation is the same.
Oh righ, back on topic: SF sux big cock, I hate everyone involved in SF development, especially those devs who post on starforce forum, arrogant and ignorant fucks.
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$en$i
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2006 08:32 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | | $en$i wrote: | | hurley wrote: | | go see how healthy are the russians. most of them are addicted severely to alcohol from age of 15... |
Well, i have been to russia, and they are not as drunk as the 15 yo english one... stereotypes... always irrelevant. |
And where you been, Moscow or some other major city, visited few famous places? Go to small villages with lots of poverty and you'll see what hurley said is true. And its not only in Russia, in most of eastern europe countries especially ex USSR countries situation is the same. |
Well i have spend months in the university of moscow and travelled a bit, i also went to ukrain, and i maintain that i have never seen more drunk young people than in the UK.
| waxier wrote: | | major props should go to Reloaded and Deviance. |
lol, are you kidding? If there was no 0day releases of pc games from crackers and those who propagate their releases, something like the intrusive starforce protection would never have emerged... Crackers have forced legitimate users to undergo this kind of shit...
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2006 10:36 Post subject: |
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To: "Apolnet-l" <apolnet-l@list.web.net>
Subject: [apolnet-l] Russia looks at banning beer for children
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:18:58 -0400
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It really does have alcohol
Hard-drinking Russia looks at banning beer for children
By MARK MacKINNON
Globe and Mail, June 24, 2004
Moscow eer is bad for you? Kiril Pavlov seemed a little dazed by the idea.
He shook his head vigorously, as if trying to dislodge the thought.
"Beer is not bad for your health," the 19-year-old said firmly, setting a
bottle of the stuff on the sidewalk so as to focus on the debate.
"Scientists proved that beer is very good for your health. I saw it on
television."
As he spoke, some of the teenagers sitting around him snickered. But others
nodded seriously. In Russia, the point Mr. Pavlov was mulling is controversial.
Legislators in the Duma, or parliament, are stuck on the same issue: In a
country that has long battled addictions to stronger stuff namely, vodka
is beer worth worrying about?
Under Russian law, beer even a brand containing 9-per-cent or 10-per-cent
alcohol is considered a "light alcoholic" drink. Anyone of any age can buy
it and nearly anyone can sell it.
Advertisements are unrestricted, often promoting the suggestion that beer
will make you healthier or even smarter if you drink enough.
At the urging of the City of Moscow, the Duma is considering labelling beer
a full-fledged alcoholic beverage, a change that would restrict where beer
can be sold and how it can be advertised. Most dramatically, to buy a beer
you would have to be at least 18 years old.
"Young people think beer is not alcohol, so they've been drinking it all
their lives," said Vladislav Kiselyev, a spokesman for the Moscow City
Duma, which forwarded to parliament a bill to declare beer alcoholic. "You
see children drinking beer on their way to school."
He said the city has no statistics on how much beer is being drunk by
youths but added that doctors say "beer alcoholism" among children is a
major health problem.
A clinic for child alcoholics recently opened in Moscow, the first to
target eight- to 13-year-olds.
The law would represent a full-scale reversal of the country's attitude to
beer, which heavier drinkers regard as something you have with breakfast.
A popular Russian saying has it that drinking beer without vodka is like
throwing money into the wind. The implication is that beer on its own will
not get you drunk enough to bother.
Until recently, the government agreed. Nine years ago, when a law was
drafted to regulate the advertising and sale of alcohol, beer was
intentionally left off the list of alcoholic beverages.
Lobbyists had argued that regulation could kill Russia's fledgling brewing
industry.
As a result, Heineken and Miller Genuine Draft, as well as popular local
brands, such as Baltika, Bochkarev and Nevskoye, sit alongside orange juice
and milk at kiosks, hot-dog stands and bus stops around the country.
They often are sold in the same plastic two-litre bottles used by
soft-drink makers in North America.
For a long time, beer was the least of Russia's concerns; when the Soviet
Union fell apart in 1991, it accounted for only a tiny percentage of the
country's rampant alcohol consumption.
But once free of regulatory constraints, the brewing industry exploded.
>From 2000 to 2003, beer consumption nearly doubled, to 51 litres a person
from 27.
Beer sales in 2002 eclipsed those of vodka for the first time.
Past efforts to change beer's legal status were defeated by a hostile Duma,
but the bill has support from a brewing industry that finally agrees there
is a problem.
"This time, they've said that they're interested, that they also would like
to regulate this market," Mr. Kiselyev said.
Pavel Shapkin, head of the National Alcohol Association, a producers'
lobby, said most of his colleagues believe consumption needs to be reined
in, though many doubt the measures will be effective.
"It's not in the interests of anyone in Russia, and not in our industry's
interests, to have beer sold at any place to anyone and to have beer
commercials shown practically in the middle of children's programs," Mr.
Shapkin said.
Russians realized over the past decade that "beer is a starting drink for
future alcoholics," he added.
Still, not everyone is on board. Some in the beer industry believe that if
children are drinking more beer they are healthier because they must be
drinking less vodka.
They suspect that the drive to regulate beer is funded by vodka distillers,
who are seeing their market share erode as beer's popularity grows.
"This is a foolish draft law," said Vladislav Shkop, director of Moscow's
Ostankino brewery.
Rising beer consumption, he added, is an indicator of social progress.
"A clinic for child alcoholics recently opened in Moscow, the first to
target eight- to 13-year-olds." <--- 8 to 13....Well, I guess they ain't 15 eh?  .
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2006 10:44 Post subject: |
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I don't see what on earth banning beer has to do in this topic?
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 01:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 07:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 08:59 Post subject: |
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^so right
@ELIZ: of course they drink all the time, they invented the vodka... and they drink the pain away. Ukraine, Russia etc.. its all the same, crappy goverment, crappy country -.-
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 10:51 Post subject: |
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imho, best country in the world.
For the Motherland!
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 13:15 Post subject: |
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....crappy goverment, crappy country, .......crappy people...
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 13:27 Post subject: |
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Maybe this thread should be closed as it tumbles more and more into a flamewar and has nothing to do with the topic anymore...
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2006 14:53 Post subject: |
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wow from Starforce to Russia to people to Vodka to Goverment
wonders me what will be the next  maybe aliens
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jun 2006 13:08 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: |
And where you been, Moscow or some other major city, visited few famous places? Go to small villages with lots of poverty and you'll see what hurley said is true. And its not only in Russia, in most of eastern europe countries especially ex USSR countries situation is the same. |
Here are some factsheets on alcohol and young people, as i have said UK and Ireland are in the first ranks, well before Ukrain and Russia in barely all stats, which make your stereotype once again irrelevant...
http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/factsheets.html
http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/comparisons.pdf
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Nidhogg
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jun 2006 13:20 Post subject: |
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So what? 90% of today's youths everywhere are worthless drunkards. No need for factsheets, a simple look at this forum is proof enough. 
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jun 2006 13:26 Post subject: |
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Lol. True. My wife and I wil be trying for a baby in the next 1 to 2 years. Will make sure he/she doesn't turn out like the bunch of fcknuts in these forums. Anyways....
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