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DXWarlock
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Yeah, but retailers are motivated by the same forces as nVidia or AMD. nVidia makes bucket loads of money from the same silicon that goes in the gaming hardware, and fab production is very limited compared to the demand, as are retailers that have a limited number of old hardware, but demand is through the roof. So no, not "Fuck Nvidia to hell", "Fuck an entire industry that is willing to pay nVidia so much more than gamers that it makes no economic sense to keep producing GPUs". |
I'm not defending Nvidia. I have no idea why people assume I am defending a thing (anything), simply when I point out an assumption about them is wrong.
Fuck nvidia for 100 things. But not 4000 prices right now, that vendors.
They have a 100% markup from nvidia's MSRP So they got it for 1/2 THAT. so they are charging $1000 for a $300 card to them, they bought 1-2 years ago. ANY 4000 series for sale is remaining vendor stock, already in vendors hands for a while now.
Nvidia has zero control over what people charge for cards they don't make anymore. I am with you FUCK nvidia for 100 reasons, but not 100+1 (this one).
Fuck nvidia for current prices on new GPUs. AND fuck Vendors for other prices.
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Aug 2026 03:16 Post subject: |
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Fuck the entire GPU industry (from Nvidia to retailers). Fine, right?
I don't care. Nvidia is abusing their position and scamming the consumer market. The supply/demand dichotomy is false; Nvidia is consciously controlling supply just like the big RAM makers do in order to manipulate us all to pay 2-3 times more than we should.
There's a reason why this is a thing:
| Quote: | | Nvidia is the world's most valuable publicly traded company, with a market capitalization of roughly $5.3 trillion to $5.5 trillion. |
Jensen and his cronies managed to reach their goal of selling a lot less for a lot more and basically screw us all over just like the RAM manufacturers are doing with the whole AI scam.
| Quote: | RTX 5090 - MSRP $1,999 : Current = $4,300 – $5,000 : Markup $2,300 to +$3,000 (~115%–150%)
RTX 5080 - MSRP $999 : Current $1,500 – $1,600 : Markup $500 to +$600 (~50%–60%)
RTX 5070 Ti - MSRP $749 : Current ~$1,100 : Markup +$350 (~47%)
RTX 5070 - MSRP $549 : Current ~$900 : Markup +$350 (~64%)
RTX 5060 Ti (16GB) - MSRP $429 : ~$805 : Markup +$375 (~87%)
RTX 5060 - MSRP $299 : Current ~$470 : Markup +$170 (~57%)
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I'm extra pissed since I installed the latest experimental build of Subnautica 2 just a couple of days ago before my 3070 died on me. It worked very well with Subnautica 2 @ 1440p and 100+ fps.
Now I'm stuck with my old 6GB 2060 and I've had to lower the in-game resolution to 1680x1050 with all in-game settings at low-medium to get 50-60 fps.
The 5060 Ti 16GB is now 850 €'s. 5060 Ti FFS!?!
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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M4trix
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Aug 2026 03:50 Post subject: |
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I stopped at RTX3060 and no new GPUs in my life anymore. Fuck you nVIDIA !
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Aug 2026 17:51 Post subject: |
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Yeah. I'm looking at 2nd hand stuff to replace my dead 3070. It's a risk but I just won't spend ~€800-€1000 on a mid-range GPU. I also won't put even more money in Jensen's pockets which are already filled to the brim and then some.
Jensen 'the greedy':
"I think the fact that everything is scarce is fantastic for us."
Nvidia is deliberately restricting product volume while prices skyrocket. They sell less units for more.
Nvidia has also reached the monopoly stage of it's consumer business:
| Quote: | | ~90% to 95% Monopolization: Nvidia completely choked out competitors, pushing AMD's discrete desktop market share down to historical lows of 8%. |
We NEED alternatives. Nvidia make MASSIVE purchases from component manufacturers which gives them a lot of control over the purchase price. Their competitors can't do that and they're forced to buy the necessary components for a much higher price. That's why AMD isn't able to undercut Nvidias prices. Nvidia is raking in record revenues while AMD's margins from sales are fairly low.
AMD's gaming segment revenue plummeted 31% year-over-year in 2025-2026. AMD is also busy making components for the consoles which is a low margin affair for them.
In order to survive AMD is also forced to follow Nvidia's suit of focusing on AI data centers, downgrading their focus on the gaming market.
As consumers we're just mugs with absolutely no power to do anything about it. The only way to make any kind of different would be to stop buying their stuff, esp. from Nvidia. That's not going to happen since most consumers just can't stop buying new GPU's. Even if the sales dropped significantly it's unlikely that anything would change, at least in near future, since Nvidia and AMD has shifted their focus to the whole AI bullshit.
We're simply fucked until something happens that challenges Nvidias monopoly-like position. There are after all only three companies that are competing; Nvidia, AMD and Intel. AMD doesn't have the ability and capability to do so. Intel doesn't seem to have the technical capability or interest in stepping up to become a serious player in the consumer GPU market.
There ARE other "upcoming" rivals around the corner but even if they have designs that can rival Nvidia's or AMD's stuff they need astronomical investments to build up a competitive business. Add to that the fact that Nvidia is monopolizing the orders for components and GPU manufacturing, thereby making it incredibly difficult for new players to even get someone to manufacture the silicon they need.
Fuck them all.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Aug 2026 17:55 Post subject: |
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There's a 4070 on Tradera (Swedish eBay-style site, the main online trading site here). The auction ends August 25 which means the current bids means nothing.
It's currently:
ASUS ProArt GeForce RTX 4070 OC Edition 12GB GDDR6X
Current bid:
3 801 Swedish kr = €343
If I could get that for €343 I'd buy it right now. Unfortunately it's probably going to sell for 2x or more of that price.
However, it's a 2-slot workstation card with a smaller and weaker cooling setup which makes it less interesting for gaming and negatively affects any kind of overclocking headroom. It's BIOS also have serious restrictions when it comes to power draw which further lessens it's use as a gaming card.
Oh well.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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couleur
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Aug 2026 17:57 Post subject: |
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https://geizhals.de/xfx-quicksilver-radeon-rx-9070-xt-white-gaming-edition-rx-97tqickw9-a3431018.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
Best deal in Germany, still 50 eur more than I paid for the ASUS PRIME 9070XT last year.
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