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zenux
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Here in Israel, providing this information is prohibited, and even asking for it is prohibited. Only for sensitive jobs, such as police, army units and intelligence, for which there is limited exception. |
Pretty sure working with socially vulnerable groups (kiddies, oldies, crazies) here, requires confirmation from police that you haven't had certain criminal cases opened against you of late. If you ask me which exactly this 'certain' entails, I can't tell. My guess, paedo variety is no go for sure.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Jul 2026 17:34 Post subject: |
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In many states, Florida being one of the worse, any job can lookup if you been convicted of any crime, at all ever. There is no backlog limit of time. You could be 80 and arrested when you was 18, they can see it, what it was, why it was, the case and police reports for it and so on.
Even if I wanted to apply for garbage man, or janitor in a warehouse. They can dig around all they want.
Most southern US states are like that: Employers can look up your entire history, and if a citizen of that state wants they can request anyone's background at anytime but just walking into a state records building and asking for it.
 Spoiler: | They will even help you find who it is, if you don't have full details. Like let's say you wanted to know if Bob Smith down the road ever been arrested. You go in with only his name, they will help you narrow down which Bob Smith it is to help you get it.
In florida anyway, I think georgia also has record offices will help you search.
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Not to sound melodramatic, but it really is the modern version of a scarlet letter the state wants you to have, without going as far as physically making you wear one.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Aug 2026 00:30 Post subject: |
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Leo from other thread:
| Quote: | Are you using headhunting companies? Do you have a detailed LinkedIn? I guess these are rudimentary questions, but I am always surprised how unmaintained these are for people are have been long employed by the same company. I get contacted almost daily on LinkedIn with offers. Some time periods are more "dry" than others. But in the few occasions that I've found myself without a job (I usually take offers while still employed), I set my profile on LinkedIn as "Open for Work" and polished the experience section to include topical buzzwords from my fields of experience/expertise. A lot of the offers were shovelware, but they still came, and if you need job, any job is better than no job.
What you describe, the 3-4 steps, are standard practice interviews for the 15 years I've been in the field. I'm assuming you were at the old job for a while and you weren't taking interviews during the years? As you do more of them, you get more experienced doing interviews too; start seeing patterns. I used to be very anxious before interviews, just like before tests before I was working, even "elective" interviews that I did while having a stable job and not even plans to leave. Until covid, I almost never refused an interview process: meeting new people outside of your usual work environment is fun and beneficial to build a network of real people. Also get exposed to how other companies work, different work practices (mostly how unserious security measures are vs. the paranoid security companies I work for Laughing ). But with time, you get used to interviews. If this is new for you, especially with other pressures, you must be having hard time. So try hitting headhunters to get as many interviews as possible. I'm assuming you are searching for software engineering jobs? At least here in Israel, there are companies that are contacted by employers looking for specific things. So when you reach for such companies (or they find you, on LinkedIn, Github, Stack Overflow, etc.), they just match your experience with what they have.
Probably not my place to make this suggestion, but here it is anyway. Consider a "lower" position in a startup, even in another field, like QA. Given the lack of any privacy laws in the US, you will probably find more luck with startups than with large bureaucratic organizations that use companies like Sterling for background checks on candidates. A startup is much less likely to do this crap. And something like QA may not sound like insulting and uninteresting, but it's a foot in the door. Once inside, it's easy in a startup or a small company to move laterally or even vertically. Just need to be on the inside. |
No headhunters. No idea where to start. Should look into it. Dunno if I pay them, the company they found me for pays them. Or how it even works. And I do have a linkedin, now. I never had one until a few months ago. I didn't even have a profile or an account until I lost this job. I got it all filled it, set to looking for work, spammed all kinda buzzwords and stuff 'real' bosses like I would have wouldn't care about but recruiters would. re-re-redid my resume for that ATS scanning optimization crap. Threw in keyword the new "AI selectors' seem to like, the ones that decide if you even make it to a person to see your resume to start with.
For being off the market a while, yea was there for 19 years. So WAY different than it was 2 decades ago. I've been doing good at the interviews. Not knocking it out of the park, but just mimicry the vibe on the call they have, and leaving with I feel a decent impression I left. But this whole "There is 6 people on this call" feels weird for an interview when only one at a time talk to you.
And I am considering anything. I've even applied at call center tier 1 helpdesk stuff. If it pays the bills at the point I don't care.
But like one recruiter that was giving me tips said:
DON"T settle for a job in your field if you don't have to, while waiting on the right one.
Like she said: I know it sound weird. But I rather you take a McDonalds job for 3 weeks, than a lower paying entry level software/application engineer one while waiting for interviews if you need to pay bills. Because them seeing you at McDonalds they know that isn't where you are trying to be. The other they will wonder if they also are just a stepping stone for a month or two and might pass on you.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Aug 2026 09:16 Post subject: |
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So the way these companies work in Israel at least is that they mostly get paid by the companies, not by candidates. The companies (of all shapes and sizes) send their required positions to the recruitment companies, who try to match applicants to the positions. The pay is usually the company paying about one salary in the event of a successful recruitment. There might be additional incentive payments for just a candidate showing up to an interview, I don't know. But anyway, the payment is not something candidates worry about. Of course, this is in addition to companies searching for candidates on their own. But over the years I have gotten many many offers from such companies. I've also gotten several offers from international such companies, including for a job I had from 2021 until the company was closed in 2023, so they do exist, but I'm not sure how prevalent they compared to Israel, where many such companies exist, and using them is accepted and expected by the Israeli hi tech sectors.
As for LLM (which is not AI) in interview processes, at least so far, I have not had any such. An interview process, especially when a candidate is already working, is usually phone calls trying to convince them to leave their existing jobs. But perhaps companies have turned to LLMs to filter incoming resumes. What a dystopian world, if so, but let me tell you the human "talent" that did it before isn't that much more talented. 
Regarding interviews, there are all kind of shapes and sizes, but the structure of what I am used to hasn't changed for me in many years. There is a phone call with the recruiter or an HR person in the company, who gives a general description of the job, the benefits and requirements. These people are usually (but not always) non-technical. Next step can either be an in-person or zoom interview with usually the hiring manager and someone else, but sometimes it can be a CTO or VP R&D or a director, and usually this is a high-level discussion of previous experience, "why are you considering our company?" (money, no higher purpose  ) and so on. Then there is a technical interview where you are asked engineering questions of very different sorts (can be software design, coding, pseudo coding on a board or a combination of each). And finally an "HR interview" and offers. In my 15 or so years of experience, this has been pretty constant.
Regarding settling, look, never settle! Unless you have to because you are a human being, and part of life is compromise. You always try to get the best you can, and sometimes it's not enough. It's never enough. But you have bills to pay. Is a McDonalds job going to satisfy you more than a job that might introduce you to new experience? I'm not sure. Recruiters are humans too. And your resume is maintained by you. You put there what you'd like to have there. I personally don't think that a job for a month or two is even possible in our field, just from logistics alone, but in the event that you do leave such a job, you can just omit it from the resume. "After 19 years at my previous job, I took some time off to be with my family and now I am invigorated to resume my career." But I don't think you should be hopping around either unless it's internal to the company you start in. But right now, you have to start something. In the US, switching jobs every 1.5-2 years is an accepted practice (less so here in Israel, for example).
One more complication you should keep in mind. When COVID hit, companies discovered that they can function with remote work! But as the years go on, this is less and less accepted for whatever reason. You are in Florida? I'm not sure how much of a tech sector there is there outside of the big cities like Miami and Tampa, but do you want to travel back and forth every day, or 3 days out of the week? So consider orienting toward remote jobs, but it might be a limitation that hurts availability. But if you are looking for remote jobs, you can apply for remote jobs across the entire US, or even internationally.
I know LinkedIn has listings of job opportunities and Stack Exchange/Overflow has too: https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/companies
The nice thing about Stack Overflow is that companies that list there use the Stack Overflow tags, so you can search for very specific or very broad tech terms. Worth giving it a shot. All you need is one good success, so the more you try, the higher the chances.
Consider starting an open source project in your field or in a field that you are interested in. Not necessarily something big, but something that is interesting to you and shows you are playing with tech in your free time. Recruiters love seeing links to those on LinkedIn. If there has been stuff that you'd investigated and toyed with, put it on GitHub. If not, it's always a good time to discover (and put the entire process on GitHub). I have several GitHub projects that I maintain to various degrees, and I know for sure they still bring me opportunities. The more surface recruiters have to hit your name, the better. These days, I see people using LLMs to pad their GitHubs, but I'm not sure how effective that is, unless LLM is used to achieve something real. Having a repository with 131 commits clearly generated by LLM is obvious. But it's a brave new world out there, so who knows. When I interview, I still focus on the candidate's ability to understand, analyze and come up with a solution to the problem we present. But others view LLM use differently. But you should have something out there. I know people publish articles too, on Medium or GitHub Pages, but I've never really been the writing person, so you need to play where your strengths are. If you have fields that you are unexperienced in but are interested, this is the time to explore, and that exploration should be public. If this last paragraph makes you roll your eyes, I get it but it really helps. Even if you are jaded from the profession, and I can sympathize, surely there is some field that interests you. Even if it's Raspberry Pie and home automation. And remember to update your LinkedIn with such projects or otherwise links.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Aug 2026 17:05 Post subject: |
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OK, the professional term for these recruiters is "technical recruiter"/"talent acquisition". So you should try to find such companies in ~ your geographic area (or even global ones) and shoot them a call. They are usually enthusiastic to help you since that's how they make money.
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