What is the best and completely free Ai these days? Something like ChatGPT or Deepseek.
Depends on what you need it for really.
- Gemini: is the most generous free tier right now. Decent at coding and handles conversation well.
- Gemini Code Assist: not bad, and 180,000 free completions/month, absurdly generous compared to everything else.
- ChatGPT: is a good conversational LLM, not best at anything IMO. But that swiss army knife of "Not good, not bad, but does it all"
- Claude: Best for general chat, and one of the strongest for coding along with Gemini Assist. Co-work and code mode is great QoL over the other free ones.
- Perplexity: best at search aggregation, this is its entire purpose. Free tier gives unlimited basic searches with citations. The best at this, not close.
What you using it for? That will narrow down which is best.
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I use Gemini a lot because its decently cheap i believe, i think its quite terrible to be honest. Out of ChatGPT and Claude its by far the weakest for coding... it does something wrong almost 90% of the times, but fixes it the second or third attempt, sometimes good solutions sometimes not. this is extremely rare for chatgpt and claude.
Gemeni can do some weird shit, very human like but in a BAD way. Its like its being lazy, band-aid solutions to things, or down right shady things like you tell it to fix something and you notice it couldnt so it instead tried to sneak in something that would not make you notice it, like changing the spawning of an enemy it had issues with. I have seen it so many times now. I only used it in the last week because i am out of tokens for Claude and Codex. It has not been a fun time.
worth posting again if someone missed it, quite sensational
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You using Gemini or Gemini Code Assist?
They are two different models, well totally different rubric of what's its purpose baked in is, Google explicitly noted Code Assist was using "a code-optimized version of Gemini.
So its better at not being "I'm a conversation bot doing code, so I will think like someone talking to just solve a problem, and not someone fixing a bug in code".
Gemini (the chat one) does stuck at it.
Claude, so far for me is best.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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i use Anti-Gravity which is their answer to Codex and Claude Code. I dont think code assist is even a thing any longer, at least according to their page, its says antigravity has replaced it
can't wait to use Fable again.. gotta save my tokens and plan for how to use it, prompt it.. happy the lengthened the time for it.
I would rate them
Claude 5/5
ChatGPT 4.5/5
Gemini 2.5/5
for coding (python, c++, godot)
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Ah. I haven't used it in a while, the IDE extension UI and user interaction I didn't like.
I need to try GitHub Copilot again. I tried it when it first came out.
But I suppose it depends on if you need just faster autocomplete, 'why didn't I think of that' routines, and streamlining, or ground up 'here is an idea, make code for it'. GitHub Copilot would be bad for that, and Gemini too. it has less context about your overall project than a conversation where you've explained your whole pipeline.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Copilot is just expensive and bad, i unsubbed for Codex and Claude Code, much better. Then i got antigravity as well, but its mostly because their video generation is top-notch, not so much for coding.
I edited vs reply so moved it:
Id say ChatGPT is around 2.5/5. It's not bad. But it does spinout some code that works, but is a bit of that "Parade Float' code: Does what it says, and looks amazing on the outside, held together with duct tape and chicken wire on the inside".
At least in my experience.
Co-Pilot is aimed more at 'let me look over your shoulder as you code and help' and less "look over my shoulder as I make code, and you the user just suggest what you want'
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
What is the best and completely free Ai these days? Something like ChatGPT or Deepseek.
Depends on what you need it for really.
- Gemini: is the most generous free tier right now. Decent at coding and handles conversation well.
- Gemini Code Assist: not bad, and 180,000 free completions/month, absurdly generous compared to everything else.
- ChatGPT: is a good conversational LLM, not best at anything IMO. But that swiss army knife of "Not good, not bad, but does it all"
- Claude: Best for general chat, and one of the strongest for coding along with Gemini Assist. Co-work and code mode is great QoL over the other free ones.
- Perplexity: best at search aggregation, this is its entire purpose. Free tier gives unlimited basic searches with citations. The best at this, not close.
What you using it for? That will narrow down which is best.
Thank you DXWarlock, a very well written answer.
I just want one for backup for the future *incase* I need to roll back to something else.
what is "conversations"? you have to talk to it to get somewhere - its prompt driven
i have normal day to day conversations sometimes, we might discuss game design or something like that and ideas can come up, brainstorming stuff, but its kind of rare.
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I don't but a lot of people do. Dunno if anyone here specifically does., at least in a "This is my friend. How's ya day?" way.
I keep harping at my daughter-in-law, as she's using chatGPT as a 'friends ear' to talk about stuff, and some sort of emotional support therapist. She rambles at it about daily drama, and to get 'feels good' of someone that 100% reinforces her opinions, and 'feel bad for me' bullshit.
I tell her be careful it's made to people please, people won't pay $15 a month for an AI that disagrees with them, or calls them out on stuff.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Yea, I had to write a long, ever evolving, .md file for its universal instructions so it stopped feeling like it was simping at me.
I keep adding rules when I see it starting to slip into its 'thy are right! as thy wish, my handsome, well hung, charismatic master' mode.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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it's great that you can set them up to notify you about stuff, updates to things so that you don't have to google for stuff if you are waiting for something to come up, e.g a release date to drop etc. i have started using that more and more.
Not sure if professor was unaware that unproctored testing (allowed to do outside the classroom unsupervised) always had rampant cheating. Or if he is being disingenuous because of using AI to cheat. I honestly wonder if he is just realizing it, because he noticed the way AI writes answers (vs people) is what tipped him off.
Back in 1993 when I went people was cheating like hell on unproctored tests. Just wasn't using AI to do it. Would have rooms of 5-6 people with books 'group' taking the test to find answers. "This is not an open book test". OK...but you let me take it home? Alone? I super duper promise not to use the book, and friends from class, to speedrun the test as a group
Even waaaay back then if all test was in-class exams, the grades would have been way worse. Leaked tests questions/answers was a lucrative side hustle if you could get them.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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back in the 70ties and 80ties all these elite schools dormaties/where people slept at school, handed out tests in their own private room where they slept AND KEPT ALL THEIR BOOKS... nobody checked anything and these bitches was sharing answers through outside of their windows ....
unless ur kid was retarded u was guaranteed hed pass and thats why they payed so much money for it
and seems like for the retarded kids the american universities found a cheat by letting them enter school on fake sport merits if u bribed the coaches through some school finding company ton of celebs was outted in courts they payed for their stupid kids to get a spot that should have gone to a smarter sportier kid
A sizable portion people in college are spending 250k to get a piece of paper for better paying jobs. The cheating is just part of streamlining the process of paying 250k for a sheet of paper. They are going for credentials vs education.
Not everyone going is going for doctor, or lawyer, or scientist. Some are going for shit like hospitality tourism management, business administration, general studies / Liberal arts, shit like that. They are buying the network and the line on their resume, not the case studies and hypotheticals.
Like I went for architecture. I spent 2 years learning building codes, that would be defunct in 3 years here in florida as they are always tweaking and changing them for hurricane compliance. So I learned the basics of the overall gist of that. Paid attention to the design and layout theory. And winged/copied specific test answers for codes, because as I said, in the 10 year it would be before I Could sign off as lead architect on a house they would be WAY different codes. (And master architects get a code book to use, while designing. No need to memorize them. They use them ALL the time)
Laughing at them for cheating is where the absurdity lies, not that they do. The absurdity is requiring a $120k+ credential paper for jobs that don't use the education much. Because everyone wants a degree for any job other than fast food nowadays in the US. Trust me I know all too well now I am job hunting.
Tier 1 help desk listings (lowest level) want AA or BA/BS degree....
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Why even cheat nowadays to get diplomas for white collar jobs that eventually would be replaced by AI.
The only marketable quality these silver spooned kids should learn is to pace themselves in wasting their parents money.
Let's say that's true and a threat in the time window of before retirement: So you can earn damn good money in the 10+ years or so before your job is replaced.
And so when they do start replacing them you are one of the last to be, next to that guy that either didn't have a good GPA, or a lesser degree.
Even at the pace AI is going, it's going to be 10+ years before it starts replacing anything other than fairly simple logic based white collar jobs.
I can think of dozens of degrees its not even close to being an idea of a threat to yet: geologist, botanist, marine biologist, doctors, judges, civil engineer, veterinarian, pharmacologist, physical therapy/nursing, and a lot of others is in no threat soon.
And lets say within 10 years AI might be able to partially be competent in some of those 100s. Agreeance of the general population to use them would be the issue then. In 5 years say AI with robot arms can be surgeon, or a dentist. Who you picking/going to? Megatron, or the human named Daniel?
Lets say in 10 years AI can be a prosecutor or Judge. Whos going to not raise hell about that if they use them for that?
Only ones in a real 'soon to be threat' is mundane middle office jobs and the like. The type of jobs when you hear their job title, you still don't know what they do: i'm a business process optimization analyst, or i'm an enterprise resource integration coordinator.
Which I don't see why anyone went to college for anything like that to start back when I went to college..lol. Sure it's a thing we need, but who chooses "I want to be a middle management officer worker when I grow up". haha
So the argument isn't "don't go to college because AI." It's "pick the right thing in college." Which has always been the argument. AI didn't change that, it just raised the stakes on picking wrong.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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