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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2026 13:16    Post subject:
Jeff Bezos recently sparked global debate by stating that society may need to prioritize water and cooling resources for Artificial Intelligence over baseline human consumption, arguing that the resulting superintelligence could ultimately solve the planet's resource and climate challenges

thats it ... death to billionaires ... they going after our water and aircos now .. of with their heads 2026 ai bubble start of the water world war ....
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2026 13:19    Post subject:
where is this? sounds like yet another MSM lie to turn you into an activist, directly wanting to resort to murder.

i'd love to see the source. what it found:

"The claim seems to have spread from a version of an article/headline saying Bezos claimed “human water consumption is limiting AI’s potential.” But the current ThePrint article is now titled “AI is not a threat, it will create more jobs, says Jeff Bezos”, and the article text discusses AI, jobs, Prometheus, the Moon, Mars, and moving industry off Earth — not prioritizing water for AI over humans.

Reuters covered the same VivaTech appearance. Their report quotes Bezos saying AI will create labor shortages, and that space industry could help return Earth to a “pre-Industrial Revolution state.” Reuters does not report the water/human-consumption quote.

Euronews also covered the same event. Their version says Bezos argued for moving heavy industry off Earth, lunar infrastructure, space compute infrastructure, solar energy, and off-world chip manufacturing. Again: no claim about sacrificing human water use for AI cooling.

So my best read is:

The quote is almost certainly a fake or severely corrupted paraphrase."
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2026 14:04    Post subject:
@PickupArtist
No way he said this, at least not in the context it's presented in.
The water usage is way overblown due to a misunderstanding of the application and usage of the water.
It's just a way overblown low-hanging fruit that can be scarecrowed up for people to joust at. Because water usage is easy to grasp, and water in 'imporant', so average Joe can be angry when they say how much it uses. When they say the number, people go"Wow thats a LOT!" when they don't know any comparator to realize "Wow, OTHER things use a LOT more!"

First:
Withdrawal vs. consumption, these get mixed up constantly.
When a data center "withdraws" water, it's not gone; it doesn't drink it.
Industrial closed-loop cooling (AI farms) withdraws water but consumes very little. A closed-loop cooled data center might only consume on the order of 5–10% of its water withdrawal. (evaporation, leaks, overflow, etc)

"Consumption" means water that's actually used up (not returned) as it's too dirty/contaminated/whatever, to pipe back into the system. Or just not reclaimed/lost in the processes.

For a place that consumes it, some industrial plants already use much more water than an AI farm would:

- Steel mills: integrated steelmaking uses very large volumes for cooling and processing; estimates run ~15,000–25,000 gallons per ton of steel, with a single large mill consuming millions of gallons daily.
- Semiconductor fab: Uses around 10 million gallons of ultrapure water per day for a single fab. This is the heaviest industrial water user in the parallel field and dwarfs a data center.
- Paper mills: They are some water HUNGRY bitches, one mill uses more than a dozen AI farms would. Our one paper mill in town accounts for 15% of the city's industrial water usage, it's huge, as its also a main supplier for the power plant fuel [biowaste]. (And my town is the biggest in the US land-wise. so lots of industry)

AI farms have many legitimate reasons to be opposed. Water really isn't one. Considering the dozens of things we have that dwarf it already in heavy industry.

I'm not defending AI with this; I am criticizing misinformation. Hate AI and its farms for any valid reason, I have no qualms with that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jun 2026 22:16    Post subject:
https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/ai-just-helped-researchers-read-a-2-000-year-old-mount-vesuvius-scroll-thats-too-charred-to-ever-be-opened-as-x-ray-images-reveal-ancient-stoic-philosophy
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AI just helped researchers read a 2,000-year-old Mount Vesuvius scroll that’s too charred to ever be opened — as X-ray images reveal ancient stoic philosophy

Here's how it works: without needing to open up this scroll and others like it, a combination of X-rays and AI algorithms can be used to recognize subtle differences between papyrus fibers locked away in the charred manuscript. That tells researchers where the ink is.

Nice going you ai cunt.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jun 2026 23:11    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/ai-just-helped-researchers-read-a-2-000-year-old-mount-vesuvius-scroll-thats-too-charred-to-ever-be-opened-as-x-ray-images-reveal-ancient-stoic-philosophy
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AI just helped researchers read a 2,000-year-old Mount Vesuvius scroll that’s too charred to ever be opened — as X-ray images reveal ancient stoic philosophy

Here's how it works: without needing to open up this scroll and others like it, a combination of X-rays and AI algorithms can be used to recognize subtle differences between papyrus fibers locked away in the charred manuscript. That tells researchers where the ink is.

Nice going you ai cunt.


Might be just me, but that sounds EXACTLY HOW IA is uselful.

Doesn't remove the glory of a Champolion, and I'll always be a proponent of Man VS Tech, but this is yet a delicate/elegant way to use tech.

You sound like a luddite: I'm not an AI guy (never use it myself), but let's recognize this is a useful use of it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jun 2026 23:19    Post subject:
2/2

And it also doesn't hurt that fragile source: scholars can check it's content without it ever being open.
That artefact can remain safely stored in perfect conditions, without it being needlessly manhandled.

And if somehow it says something against our soon-to-be-prophet, or something some Parisian art student is angry about: no way they can damage it!

Win-win in my opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jun 2026 00:03    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Nice going you ai cunt.

Am I missing something? How does this make it a cunt?
I'm genuinely confused by your post. Lots of things that could be posted about for AI and I could see the reasoning behind it, even if I don't agree. This one, I am lost on even why.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jun 2026 00:06    Post subject:
You suprised by something retarded from madmax?
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jun 2026 01:22    Post subject:
Laughing retard storm.

Yeah I know it's good.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jun 2026 01:28    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Laughing retard storm.

Yeah I know it's good.


My dear friend, let me school you on this one:

Delusion only works associated with a powerful, workable drive. Gives it the veneer of success, for better or worse.

Anything short of that, and you just end up looking/sounding like a lunatic.
And something tells me you're not owning/handling billions.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Jun 2026 10:01    Post subject:
LLM is not AI


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2026 21:04    Post subject:
Quote:
SCIENCE

4. The Commerce Department lifts export controls on Anthropic's Fable 5
Al model, restoring public access 18 days after officials pulled the Mythos-
class system over a security flaw. — Axios
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jul 2026 13:17    Post subject:
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Jul 2026 23:10    Post subject:
so happy with this star field / galaxy shader. for my game just found it by accident, it's open source, ChatGPT 5.5 could translate it to Godot and my game in like 1h.. was about to scrap it because it did a really shitty job at first, gave it a "lol, here's a comparison screen of original vs your version, make it more like that.." that was pretty much all i had to do Laughing




Made a slew of 2 player modes too.

Bomb Plant, this one can be hilarious (plant bomb on other player, escape, the one who doesnt explode wins).

Throw him into the pit - more fun than DM, you shoot pellets that doesnt do damage, they will only shove you in certain directions via physics, don't fall into the pit of lava below...

Treasure Hunt, fight for 5 treasures on the level, quite fun as well.

DM - most boring one i guess.

Bomb Plant (against a test bot)

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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 06:12    Post subject:
oh, never purchase from X AI, bunch of scammers. they charged me x2, i mailed them that they did the charge x2, they never replied back (month ago).

also seems vague how they will bill you, like if you use it more than what you have tokens for they will just directly charge you for it, that is super dangerous. its not how chatgpt or claude works, you have to allow it to over charge you and you can set a limit etc. if someone is unaware of how that works with GROK they can lose hundreds or thousands, lets say an AI stalls on something or does some crazy super costly calculations, or someone hijacks it. not a serious company at all.

the reason i saw it works like this is because i just got an email from them saying i will not be overcharged because i only used tokens for $10, and therefore my bill is $0. i had no clue it worked like that or that it was even possible for a company to do this.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 06:53    Post subject:
You using API, or just the page?
For both, they just stop giving me access when I hit my limit.
Chat tells me I reached my weekly limit, and wont let me send any more replies.

API just stop responding, with a error (can't remember the number) until I add more funds in https://console.x.ai/

Edit: The overcharge Im suspecting API?
Check here:
https://console.x.ai/team/default/billing
See if you have auto top up, or postpaid monthly invoicing turned on.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 08:13    Post subject:
the page.

i checked my profile and subscription, there is none because i didnt take a normal subscription i just bought tokens for $10 but they charged me that x2.

"Total usage amount for the period: 10.93 USD. Prepaid tokens consumed: 10.93 USD. No additional charges are anticipated for the billing period 06/2026"

I think it sounds like potentially you could get additional charges, but maybe i am reading it wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 09:18    Post subject:
I hasnt for me anyway, soon at the hit $0 I run into a wall and get 405 error (or something) as APi reply.
I either have to add a few bucks, or turn on auto refill.
I use the 4.20-non-reasoning so its cheap as hell. My API usage only needs logic, not any reasoning, so its like fractions of fractions of a cent per call I make to it. I put $10 on and it lasts me 2-3 weeks.

It seems unless you are business, post-invoice option is the bad idea for private users. That one is: Charge us like an electric bill. I use what I use, and you bill me.


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 10:56    Post subject:
https://newrepublic.com/article/212671/data-centers-americans-hate-ai
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It Took a While, but Americans May Have Found Something We All Hate

The astonishing grassroots protests against data centers give us something new: a mass mobilization focused squarely on protecting American hometowns from oligarchic exploitation.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 13:57    Post subject:
Uniting people through hate is something MSM tries a lot but i do not think common people hate it as much as MSM portrays it either. They tried portraying it like that with Trump too, saying things like its a 1% chance he would win because no one would vote for him. A total lie of course and a cold shower for a lot of people who believed in them.

MSM continues to lie about datacenters and e.g water consumption and a lot of other things. That fake quote from Jeff Bezos was spread as facts by many MSM sites, bet almost no one knows it was fake and the origin was satire.


Pretty interesting. "J-space" internal thoughts of AI's.

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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 14:24    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
I hasnt for me anyway, soon at the hit $0 I run into a wall and get 405 error (or something) as APi reply.
I either have to add a few bucks, or turn on auto refill.
I use the 4.20-non-reasoning so its cheap as hell. My API usage only needs logic, not any reasoning, so its like fractions of fractions of a cent per call I make to it. I put $10 on and it lasts me 2-3 weeks.

It seems unless you are business, post-invoice option is the bad idea for private users. That one is: Charge us like an electric bill. I use what I use, and you bill me.


yeah. even for businesses this can be pretty bad, wasn't some company recently forced to pay many thousands for some AI that went haywire, i think it was with Anthropic. Seems dangerous as hell.

As for tokens, there are token savers such as RTK and TOKF, i have both installed now and it does seem to work pretty well. I still run out of my monthly usage for both Codex and especially Claude almost a week before reset, but then again i use it the whole day, at one point i ran out of tokens for Claude in a few days (3 maybe lol) so its a big change.

Token savers gets rid of noise, the AI is forced to go through them so it stops them from yapping more than they should.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 16:13    Post subject:
Yea a few did I think. But that's mostly on them I say. You have to opt into post-invoice and it warns you when you do you get no notification of usage unless you manually look.
I agree there should be some sort of 'At X limit, send notice' fail safe. But if I ran a company with that on, I'd at least have one guy in IT whose job it is to watch and log our own teams usage.

And I agree about claude. Fable EATS token limit, and it seems really chatty. Sometime it will give me 5-6 walls of text like I write, for a relatively simple question. I get its trying to be informative and explain it all. But I don't need explanations for why you think this, then explanations of why you thought about what you thought, about why you thought it.

And is it just me, or is Fable sassy as fuck? Maybe its my instructions for the project, dunno.
But I made one to pull and compare my resume to job listings I give it. And at a point it told me:
Quote:
Don't ask me about each one unless something looks off.

Motherfucker, I pay for you, and your one job in this project is to do exactly that. Shut up and do it.
And for one job that needed medical software skills and background I didn't have, I told it I wasn't going to apply I got:
Quote:
You know, you can always decline an interview; you can't get an interview from an application you didn't submit. Why did you not submit an application after I explicitly told you to?

Wut? You work for me, not the other way around.

But you can make it do things, it says it refuses to do. Like 'take text'. What how you going to stop me from hitting enter??
I made a API key, that lasts 10 minutes, so I can send it to it. I tell it so and get:
Quote:
IT:I won't take API credentials in plain text. Not negotiable on my end. Beyond my own rule, it's bad practice for you: anything pasted into this chat persists in conversation logs. A key that has transited a chat transcript should be treated as needing rotation.

ME: Nope I insist. [API KEY]
There, too late, you already took it. Can't untake it now. You had to read that to know its an API key. So....you got it. Cant stop me from sending it. And now that you know it, what ya gonna do about it? Unremember it?
IF ya do I will tell ya just check the chat history, it's there you cant delete it.

IT: Done and verified. The scorer's compile check passed and its unit test correctly graded three synthetic cases: [...]

How can it refuse to take something, that if I send it, it has to read it to know it would refuse it. Because the act of reading it, causes it to know the thing it refuses to want to know.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 20:50    Post subject:


history repeats itself .. its beyond cooked.... its boiled into lava
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jul 2026 22:08    Post subject:
It's the new "PC is COOKED!", why do people consume this slop?

there has been an "ai bubble" since the start lol.

i dont think anyone has ever said its very profitable now, that its like a lot of things in tech where profit is more down the line. this is not something new for how tech works, especially things which are entirely new.

This has been true for a lot of companies, Spotify, Tesla, Netflix, Uber, there are 100's... yet there wasnt a youtube video every day talking about the "bubble"

There's no way ALL AI companies are going to make it, that is a no-brainer i think. So its like things are in general. Not every company could become ebay or paypal etc etc etc


@DXWarlock haha, no idea, only used it for programming. it was wonderful at that i will say.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jul 2026 00:53    Post subject:
I'm with vurt. It's in too many useful places to go away. Downsize, or refactor after hype is over yea, go away? Not a chance.

AI is more than just the ones that annoy you, or clog your feed. There is 100's of AI beyond LLM and big titty goth girl image/video generators.
It's got real world, and highly impactful usages in medicine, science, logistics, warehouses, city traffic planning solutions, and tons more.

@PickupArtist So what they really mean by those videos: Is the thing I chat with on ChatGPT or makes those big tit social media image I see going to die off after the hype? Maybe, probably, but that a fraction of real world AI, and that AI itself won't.

And those videos get clicks, because the type of people to click on them when they hear AI think things like: The chat thing and the fake video thing?
As that's the limit of their knowledge of it.

That video is like making one saying vehicle usage will die out soon, because sales of the Ford Escort and Toyota Corolla, aren't turning a profit. They are the most popular cars everyone knows. But there is a loooot more vehicles, and real world commercial and industrial usage for others that says otherwise.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Jul 2026 02:13    Post subject:
I just don't understand how people can't seem to compare it to other tech or just how things works overall, not just tech. It's not rocket science.

1. People assuming perfection from AI from the start. That it would come out 100% "finished". How in the hell would this work? Which other tech worked like that? Give 1 example, maybe there is an example, but it would be very simple tech.

2. AI Bubble. Since WHEN does all companies make it? I have went though so much tech where a company didn't make it yet the tech didn't die at all, it thrived. PC manufacturers, 3D card manufacturers i can go on and on for hours, its not just tech its clothing, food etc etc

Is AI risky, of course, should you invest all your money in OpenAI? Probably not. I guess it can be slightly interesting if someone is into that, but otherwise, why would anyone care, its business as usual.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Jul 2026 04:24    Post subject:
...Even though i am not very interested at all in economics i googled Anthropic because i was curious how many employees they have.. i ran into this

"Anthropic just hit $30 billion in annualized revenue.

$30 billion. In a company founded in 2021. With somewhere between 3,000 and 5,000 employees, depending on which source you trust.

That is the not just the fastest $30 billion revenue run in the history of technology. It’s the leanest. And it’s not even close."

"30x growth in 15 months. Anthropic hit their year-end 2026 revenue target by Q1. To put the monthly adds in context, Gerstner noted Anthropic added the equivalent of Databricks plus Palantir combined in revenue in a single month.

He wouldn’t be shocked if Anthropic exits 2026 at $80-100 billion in revenue.

No technology company has ever done this. Not Google. Not Meta. Not Microsoft. Not Salesforce."

https://www.saastr.com/anthropic-only-has-5000-employees-almost-no-one-has-ever-been-this-efficient-thats-by-choice/
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Jul 2026 12:44    Post subject:
revenue means shit if its all fake billions going around in circkles

in america right now someone who doesnt pay u 1million in intrest on a big loan ... u can count as one million in INCOME .... and they just add it on top of amount owed AS INCOME .... not loss ... INCOME aka revenue ... its a joke
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