I get you, if you're quite penniless, used to walk that lane for quite a while, if we're talking paycheck to paycheck (if even...).
That's why I don't want to walk it ever again.
On ne peut rien gagner sans perdre; même le paradis exige la mort.
It's not that, it's just that 1- wouldn't even know where to start and 2- It's probably a sizeable time sink and these days after work my mind is full of fuck, with little patience to do anything other than shitpost and vegetate in front of another screen
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
It's not that, it's just that 1- wouldn't even know where to start and 2- It's probably a sizeable time sink and these days after work my mind is full of fuck, with little patience to do anything other than shitpost and vegetate in front of another screen
Hahaha fair enough
Then by a Euro Stoxx (sounds like a porn name ) 50 or 600-based private ETF. Just buy it and let it rest.
No need to follow nor manage it. Let that bitch quietly fluctuate for years. No amazing returns, but you'll beat inflation and whatever joke returns your bank gives you as a "good little saver".
Because either in Portulol or Belgorofl, if you think your gov is ever gonna give you a decent retirement and/or care for your ass when it gets old, keep dreaming
On ne peut rien gagner sans perdre; même le paradis exige la mort.
Dude not any stock that is down is a good investment
Wolters Kluwer is down from way overvalued. It's buissiness is in question cause of AI. It's low growth, high risk. If things go right, you'll get low growth. Prior valuations will never return cause it can never be regarded as a defensive stock. If AI is a problem there buissiness is at stake and it will go down some more.
Beer: gen z stopped drinking beer. It's not a growth market, stay out of it.
Stock picking is realy difficult now. Everything is expensive and it's unclear what the next thing will be.
Think alphabet and all US cloud tech is safish. But Alphabet could also suffer from lawsuits since a court blamed them for addictive content. This can get big. Microsoft is down for no reason, that's porbably allright.
Only good picks are in obscure stock, but that's high risk and very hard to get right.
I'm more looking at stocks that are impacted by the global politics and happenings. Currently looking at helium stocks. Some high risk/high profit ones, like HeliumOne that could be something.
Also looking at Coca Cola (access to drinking water will become more restricted) and also McDonalds (fastfood does well in general when the economy is slowing down).
But still waiting for an opportunity. S&P 500 has been dropping for 4 weeks in a row now, seems too soon to buy in. And the market is completely overvalued anyway.
Not putting my stocks in the classics like Inbev, though. People will avoid restaurants/cafés when they are struggling for cash. And indeed, Gen Z doesn't drink a lot of beer.
Wolters Kluwer seems to be in complete freefall, and at its lowest valued price ever. Also with friketje on that, and I'd stay away from that, personally. Going to be a long time to see any profit on that.
Same with other "boomer stocks" like Kinepolis, for instance. There's just no money in movie theatres anymore.
The numbers don't decide, the system is a lie. The river running dry, the wings of butterflies.
And you may pour us away like soup. Like we're pretty broken flowers.
We'll take back what is ours. One day at a time.
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Then by a Euro Stoxx (sounds like a porn name ) 50 or 600-based private ETF. Just buy it and let it rest.
No need to follow nor manage it. Let that bitch quietly fluctuate for years. No amazing returns, but you'll beat inflation and whatever joke returns your bank gives you as a "good little saver".
Because either in Portulol or Belgorofl, if you think your gov is ever gonna give you a decent retirement and/or care for your ass when it gets old, keep dreaming
That ETF stuff might be worth looking into then, if it really is as hands off as you make it seem
As for your last paragraph, nigga is you crazy? Exactly because I'm not expecting nothing from the government in my golden years () is the reason I already have some money on a no risk pubic debt bearer bond (closest I can translate it to english, but it's no risk) and also dared putting a lil something away in another one that's not so safe.
Now I have a bigger chunk to save away but I'm undecided on how to go about it, risk wise.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Yeah, although I think many of those have already gone up over the last year. Same as with AI, it might be safer to go with those that "sell the shovels" rather than "the gold diggers". Like chip manufacturers, suppliers for drone parts, ...
Food, water, fertilizer, transportation, ... also seem safe bets
The numbers don't decide, the system is a lie. The river running dry, the wings of butterflies.
And you may pour us away like soup. Like we're pretty broken flowers.
We'll take back what is ours. One day at a time.
As for your last paragraph, nigga is you crazy? Exactly because I'm not expecting nothing from the government in my golden years () is the reason I already have some money on a no risk pubic debt bearer bond (closest I can translate it to english, but it's no risk) and also dared putting a lil something away in another one that's not so safe.
Now I have a bigger chunk to save away but I'm undecided on how to go about it, risk wise.
I'll never give you any advice, not my expertise nor game. It's for you to find out.
All I'm saying is that whatever your banker tells you is a "fuck you" plan...
He gets his bonus selling turds of an investment, generaly bundled in his trimester bonus.
That cunt will never care about you.
Except for what lies in my underware, there's no magic wand that's gonna make you rich nor fortunate. I'll translate my signature in Portuguese:
"Não se ganha sem perder. Até o paraíso pede a morte."
Life itself is a risk. And listening to fellow Humpers, I made... not so good decisions
So who am I to say anything?
I'll stick by that ETF advice, though, because it's a monster that feeds itself.
On ne peut rien gagner sans perdre; même le paradis exige la mort.
friketje, WK has a solid management and structure, while I'm betting that AI won't hurt them, because I firmly belive that in the short term, again, WK being valued at 2008 isn't just fair, but stupid.
AI is overthought and overfactored in (IMHO), without any tangible results to show for it.
Again, that's the whole thing, and the whole point of this thread; to get people thinking.
So, you glorious nay-sayers, what are your lines/advice?
PS: I want to thank you all for interacting here
On ne peut rien gagner sans perdre; même le paradis exige la mort.
Life itself is a risk. And listening to fellow Humpers, I made... not so good decisions
I got into CRK during a previous 'hump investment round', around 2013-14, and it finally paid off last year (but pretty good too!)
The numbers don't decide, the system is a lie. The river running dry, the wings of butterflies.
And you may pour us away like soup. Like we're pretty broken flowers.
We'll take back what is ours. One day at a time.
Quick update about my lines since early April, despite all this Iran BS:
+10.28% on my State Street SPDR S&P 500 UCITS ETF (Acc): This is a pure profit line. Just riding the profit. Will keep pumping it for ages, it's free money.
+1.03% on my VANGUARD FTSE All-World High Dividend Yield UCITS ETF: Goal here is stability. While not at big money-maker, it's super resilient while it turns your dividends into assets through the beauty of capitalisation.
~0% on my Wolter Kluwer line. Yet, nice dividends with a potential to fly high enough within the year to make me a cool +30% (my objective)
So, so far, so good, I'm at a cool +5.59% in 1 month, despite all the troubles around.
And you? Any nice ride so far?
On ne peut rien gagner sans perdre; même le paradis exige la mort.
But one of my winners was not look at who they are, what they do, etc.
Some stocks I bought way back that nearly always won was:
What new 'thing' do older people fuss about while it is still in its baby steps? In that "I don't understand the world today and grumpy" way? Watch it a while, see if the number of the fussing dies down a little as a handful of them start accept it? Buy the fuck out of it then
Worked for me for when I added these to my portfolio long ago:
Apple (Why does a phone need internet? Just call people.)
Nvidia (AI: Why would anyone need a computer to make art or write emails?)
Amazon (What’s wrong with going to an actual store?)
Netflix (I like my DVD collection!)
Spotify (Who doesn't want to own their music? kids these days)
Uber (What's wrong with a REAL taxi? Uber is just some guy's car.)
If old people are going “This new thing is dumb, nobody will still be doing this in 5 years.” Watch that stock
Now it's not always a sure winner, granted. But the odds are in your favor for sure.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Maybe more: Elderly adoption-curve territory?
Find the goldilocks window of time of where kids like it, but they don't move the value needle. And old people that do wiggle stock value are JUST starting to change from "WTF is this?" to "WTF how do I use this dumb thing?".
Disruption doesn't always mean useful, or fruitful. perhaps add to it "Go for disruption of middle aged and higher"
If 15-25 like it, but its not fully caught on but growing roots, added with people my age find it confusing, useless, and pointless. It might not grow into a huge tree, but it's a seed with promise for returns on investment.
Like a good gauge I used for a few: Do I like it, think it's useful/convenient/a new idea that good. And my wife think it's pointless, useless, and a fly by night fad? Keep an eye on it. lol Soon as she starts softening her tone a little about how much she dislikes it, buy a few see how it does.
My wife isn't totally an old school 'new stuff sucks' type. But she's getting closer the older she gets.
Since I lost my job, and pretty much spent all my investment money in stock and bitcoin getting out of the mess I was in. No stocks ATM to flip or sit on, and no money to get more
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
at least ur gaming hardware n ram value skyrocketed
whats ur plan to get back on ur feet ? job hunting going ok?
The hunting going fine, the finding game to land during the hunt..not so much
Ive been applying at places I worked with: Hey you want a inhouse Newsway Expert? (The software between editorial and the print press, they can't run without it.).
All the way down to applying at walmart and amazon warehouse.
I got about 2-3 months of bill funds left, then its credit cards and selling my woodworking tools to pay bills.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Like I told my wife:
Man if I work at walmart that will be a kick in the ego: I went from working with Dow F'ing Jones, and USA Today, them relying on me in print time crisis. To stocking shelves and helping Wilma find the adult diapers.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Maybe more: Elderly adoption-curve territory?
Find the goldilocks window of time of where kids like it, but they don't move the value needle. And old people that do wiggle stock value are JUST starting to change from "WTF is this?" to "WTF how do I use this dumb thing?".
Disruption doesn't always mean useful, or fruitful. perhaps add to it "Go for disruption of middle aged and higher"
If 15-25 like it, but its not fully caught on but growing roots, added with people my age find it confusing, useless, and pointless. It might not grow into a huge tree, but it's a seed with promise for returns on investment.
Like a good gauge I used for a few: Do I like it, think it's useful/convenient/a new idea that good. And my wife think it's pointless, useless, and a fly by night fad? Keep an eye on it. lol Soon as she starts softening her tone a little about how much she dislikes it, buy a few see how it does.
My wife isn't totally an old school 'new stuff sucks' type. But she's getting closer the older she gets.
Since I lost my job, and pretty much spent all my investment money in stock and bitcoin getting out of the mess I was in. No stocks ATM to flip or sit on, and no money to get more
Sorry for your (financials) situation, but at least you still got the princess!
I get your point, and it's worth looking at.
Thanks for sharing, and I have no doubt you'll get back of your feet soon enough, man.
PS: doesn't mean that mean investor can't still mean something nor have an outlook.
AND BOY DOES THE HUMP KNOW you're full of opinions
Keep on trucking. I'll never be one to tell you that it ain't over 'till the fat lady sings.
On ne peut rien gagner sans perdre; même le paradis exige la mort.
Yea. My own dumb fault. Can't blame anyone but me.
Drunk electronic nerds with access to stage lights and a loud car stereo, should not hang out in parks with easily accessible 240v wiring unsupervised. haha
I'll figure something out. In the end won't lose the house, as our mortgage is cheaper than apartment rent. its crazy. So unless we are straight becoming homeless no reason to look into moving and renting, be more expensive than what we got now.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Yea. My own dumb fault. Can't blame anyone but me.
Drunk electronic nerds with access to stage lights and a loud car stereo, should not hang out in parks with easily accessible 240v wiring unsupervised. haha
I'll figure something out. In the end won't lose the house, as our mortgage is cheaper than apartment rent. its crazy. So unless we are straight becoming homeless no reason to look into moving and renting, be more expensive than what we got now.
Great? Not really. Fine enough to lick wounds and recover in order to kick ass again? Sounds like it.
Anyway, maybe looks like no easy way back, but you seem the kind to muster cat-like abilities to bounce (no clue about the remaining lives though ).
Best of luck my friend.
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