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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2026 06:09    Post subject:
i wish the local ones were better and i bet they will improve like everything else, but they are so slow.

copilot got so much worse in the recent week, everything that was so great with it down the drain, they can't afford to sell it as cheap.

I am glad i have done so much programming with it in the past 3 months because right now it just would be too costly to do that amount, i have maybe spent $150-200 in total, now it would be like 10x! You can burn your monthly quota in hours, not weeks.

It would be sad if we have to look back on it as the crazy cheap period to use AI and from here on its just something for the rich and for companies, not for average joe.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Apr 2026 11:44    Post subject:
I said so, the good stuff is getting mighty expensive or is verboten to the public. Free and low cost users are being kept on nerfed models and hobbled chatbots. Enshittification is on in full force. Even the high paying and rich users are being partially excluded but the models are still serviceable.. There is a whole new higher tier for big corporations and state actors and the highest-tier internal models still keep improving. But we are being kept in the dark. It's not just a cost thing, part of the reason is also the negative media coverage.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2026 04:05    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
well, artificial is artificial, it won't ever work exactly like we do. i think we will keep saying its not intelligence forever because it will not be like us. we will keep adding to AGI (like we have for the past years) so its a non-achievable thing, "oh but it can't do this, so then its not really and truly AGI." I don't think it will ever be able to act and be 100% like a human, not sure why we would want it either.

I would absolutely say its artificial / fake intelligence. its not scripts, like the old chat bots. it acts through learning and from the learning it can come up with its own solutions which wasnt in the training data. so yes, it has the ability to mimic how the human brain works in a sense, actually its pretty close if you take a deep dive into how neural networks works. But if thats not AI then nothing will ever be AI. That being said, its pretty far from what we will eventually have, like always with tech.

Free running models who doesn't need prompting, well we did have that with their own reddit etc, and it was cool to see what they came up with and discussed. But yes, insanely costly of course, having AI running all the time. Also it can be super dangerous.


Well, AGI still doesn't exist, it is still hypothetical. If we manage to create true AGI it's going to be far into the future.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2026 05:03    Post subject:
It can't replace all human jobs (any intellectual task), i doubt that is going to happen any time soon either.
I do not understand why we would pursue it either. Why would we want e.g teachers to be LLM's. I do not think it would benefit humanity at all, quite the opposite.

The fixation on AGI is overall just stupid and i think overall unachievable. It's in the same vein as "why don't we have flying cars?" Because it would be a fucking MESS and i don't think we would want that AT ALL, even if we can do it technically.

I do think we could replace almost all intellectual tasks and even some jobs beyond it, but it would absolutely be sub-optimal for many of these jobs.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2026 05:11    Post subject:
Flying cars would be awesome. PEOPLE with flying cars would be a disaster.
Think of all the hoopty ass cars you see that people dont take care of them beyond "it still moves". OR just watch 3-4 episodes of "Just Rolled In" on youtube.

You quickly realize the issue isn't with the car. Its that people own those flying cars. And when a normal car breaks down on the road from them ignoring fixing problems because they cant be assed to care, they are just sitting there. In the air, its falling on someone or someone's house.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2026 05:13    Post subject:
So you would you trust a automatic TESLA flying car, but not a human, even a pro? Razz
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Apr 2026 05:16    Post subject:
(Changed reply other was too much of tangent off of the maintenance subject)

A pro..yea. He has a team thats only job is to make sure his car is in working order.
Vs bob average that hasn't checked the props for damage or looseness, or motors for greasing in the grease fittings, or fix points of any of the attachments since he got it, and has random bondo on the fan cowl to stop that annoying noise it was making.

I know too many mechanics that all say the same thing basically: You would be terrified to leave your house in a car, if you could see how badly maintained 1/3 of the peoples cars are.

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I don't want any random dude with flying cars like that flying even remotely near my house.


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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st May 2026 05:21    Post subject:
Man I missed playing with Suno:

https://suno.com/s/CPJoZvQKKMvbXTHe

[Redo of one looong ago, new models are so much better]
https://suno.com/s/bFNNAtOzv9Gbqksl

Man I got a juvenile sense of humor. I am laughing until crying here:
https://suno.com/s/nipIvpk7tEnNkOXx


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