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vurt
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LeoNatan
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Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2026 02:52 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | My "piracy" recipe for stealing hardware |
The company I work for apparently has a datacenter with 12 H100 racks for on premises Claude. Who's up for a brisk midnight adventure? 
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Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2026 03:39 Post subject: |
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OK, I'll PM you the address. I'll be ... right over there, on the lookout 
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Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2026 04:11 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 09:42 Post subject: |
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2044990537145753894
Universal HIGH INCOME via checks issued by the Federal government is the best way to deal with unemployment caused by AI.
AI/robotics will produce goods & services far in excess of the increase in the money supply, so there will not be inflation.
Ai stealing jobs huh.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 10:15 Post subject: |
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AI is also "stealing" cognitive capacities as it makes us, well at least the kids, dumber (why use my brain when an AI can do it better) and then resells it to us. Its the classic scheme.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 10:24 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | AI is also "stealing" cognitive capacities as it makes us, well at least the kids, dumber (why use my brain when an AI can do it better) and then resells it to us. Its the classic scheme. |
I am dealing with this shit at work. We have UI/UX designers that are fully captured by this way of "thinking". We need a string for a UI element, so they "ask" the AI slop to come up with some shit, and the type of sentences that come up is just mind boggling, but there is nobody to complain to, as these UX "designers" don't even understand the criticism. I'd probably get better results out of the slop pachinko machine myself, if I skipped the middleperson, since I can come up with a more technical prompt.
These are the same kids that fear AI is taking their job. It is—because they are not much more than prompt operators at this point, and it has infested their ability to do independent work. We have "engineers" whose instinct these days with crash reports is to "run it through claude" and if it returns nothing or something really stupid, they are stumped—without even looking at the crash report details. We have people that insist on "writing" PR descriptions using generated slop, then when people respond to their slop, they don't understand the feedback since they didn't even read what the slop returned before copypasta to Bitbucket.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 10:43 Post subject: |
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@LeoNatan
I agree, vibe coding needs to die. Vibe coding is just a 'cool sounding buzz term' for: Fuck it let AI do it, it's good enough, I guess...it..works.
Companies that outsource call center support should stops saying they outsource it, and start saying they offer "We are now Vibe Supporting you". Same to me: offload you job to something else worse at it.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 10:54 Post subject: |
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It's not even vibe coding at this point, it's just laziness. "Look at my git diff and write a PR description". "Come up with a string for a title for a welcome screen". I'm not kidding, it's at this level. The younger generation doesn't even know or want to do the most mundane things their low grade job title asks them to do.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 10:59 Post subject: |
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every programmer i know of laughed at AI coding a little more than a year ago, today almost everyone of them uses it because its just way faster to use and as good.
so no, "vibe coding" (God do i hate that word!) / AI-coding wont die and doesnt need to die at all, we will eventually end up with far, far better code than humans can produce.
It's like debating if we should have calculators or using humans and abacuses instead. While the later is absolutely possible humans will never be better at these things, this is tasks made for computers to do.
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“Just as good” as what? The slop Claude spews is not even as good as a junior engineer, while it spews the crap it spews with utmost confidence of a know it all junior that knows nothing but thinks they are on the top of the world. It hallucinates stdlib classes and functions, hallucinates patterns, hallucinates compiler directives. When told it hallucinated, it sometimes argues, but eventually apologizes … and hallucinates more nonsense.
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I don't think AI coding needs to die per say. I think people with jobs as it, or getting jobs as one need to learn how to code, before passing off tasks to AI.
Not same-same. But I expect a Pilot to know how to fly a plane, before relying on auto-pilot to fly it for him. Same feeling to me.
Want to code for yourself, or hobby stuff and dont want to learn it all for tiny self projects? Go for it with AI. If your new career is a programmer/software engineer, You should know what you (and it) are doing. You and whoever you work for relies on you (buck stops with you if its bad/wrong/broken/needs fixing).
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 12:23 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | “Just as good” as what? |
As good as most programmers. You can check swe-bench results. Yes, it' still not better than the best programmers in the world, so yes, if you can afford to hire those guys, which obviously there aren't too many of, you will have the edge.
I program with it daily (like stated earlier, currently plugins for audio), i let real programmers look at the code too.
Hallucinated code etc, no, that would just not produce the stuff i am doing, a total no-go where latency and performance is key. The hardware (MetaModule, a tiny hardware module) i run the code on is Dual-core 800MHz Cortex-A7 plus Cortex-M4 co-processor, 512MB DDR3 533MHz RAM, so very restrained in comparison to a modern PC. I compare with commercial plugins all the time, my performance is top-notch, not buggy (would directly show) or has any more latency than other plugins...
Setting up the environment properly is key too, the instructions for the AI, if you don't do that part properly the models will not produce good enough results. They still do need custom instructions for whatever they are going to do. That's mostly what people don't seem to understand or are good at setting up, you must research this first, even just asking something pretty simple might still require some tweaks to the default settings of the model.
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Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2026 12:27 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | | Calculators are accurate because based on mathematics. AI are statistical approximations, and by definition can never be 100% accurate unless your input matches its training data 100%. |
Not true at all, that would make them pretty much useless.
LLMs can produce correct outputs on inputs never seen in training. Generalization is the entire point of learning.
Believing partially made-up and buggy code would produce an entirely new game or a new plugin or DSP-code no one has ever made etc? Wut? how would that even work, it wouldn't. You would not be able to run it or at best start it and then it would produce errors or freeze.
That's kind of the cool thing with doing audio plugins, i can test every part in the code by triggering my modules at audio rate (which is insanely fast), the module would just crash instantly, in milliseconds. So pretty good playground for code stability, performance, latency and especailly so running on very low-end hardware.
Another good example btw;
With Claude Mythos they were able to find 500+ vulnerabilities, some which has been undiscovered for 23 years. The dude found more bugs and vulnerabilities in a week than in his entire life. You can do this type of work in seconds, vs likely years or never been able to find it. This is both good and bad of course, because it could be used by hackers instead of people doing the fixes..
So no, if AI could only do things from its training data, matching it 100% it could not do it. All you would have a is a database + a simple chatbot, it could probably run on a 286, we would not have the issue with either expensive RAM or VRAM, power issues we are facing etc. This is as hi-tech as it gets, beyond human comprehension of how the models actually works and why it works. The researchers have a general idea only.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Apr 2026 20:14 Post subject: |
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copilot imo. $10 / month, nothing out there as cheap i think.
people might argue that claude code or cursor is better, i used Cursor for 2 months, its just 10x more expensive and i could not see any benefits in coding (c++, python).
i use it in VS Code, which only took maybe 25 mins to get a grip of, and i would say i am pretty bad at understanding new software.
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Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2026 17:11 Post subject: |
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I use Claude for retro coding for C64 and Amiga OCS/ECS and it's damn good at it, generating commented source code that is easy to follow and has so far been fairly spot on when it comes to the generated code examples. I don't pay anything though since I only use it for questions (about registers, system addresses etc. and short examples.
Since I program assembler on the aforementioned systems as a hobby I want to do all the coding myself, otherwise it would just feel like cheating and ruin the whole thing, sort of generating music with AI that you actually mean to use for real. That's just lazy talentless cheating and makes the whole thing utterly pointless (and generic).
If the goal is to be productive, not just code for fun, it makes sense to get some help from AI if the quality of the generated code is good. I'm probably going to use AI to generate some graphics for any intro/demo-like stuff I make since I haven't drawn a single pixel on the Amiga since 1994 and I'm no graphical artist anyway.
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Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2026 17:31 Post subject: |
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question is will u still use it if its 19-99 bucks a month. all these vc s expecting onlyfans levels of revenues n profits roflol
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Frant
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No, I'd never pay for using AI. I can't think of any personal reason to pay for it at any rate.
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Man uses AI chatbot to defend himself in court – and wins
| Quote: | A man in Leipzig successfully defended himself in court using an AI chatbot, despite major errors in his legal arguments.
As reported by German magazine Der Spiegel, David Hinz faced fraud charges after receiving €242.34 in unemployment benefits he was not entitled to, due to starting a job earlier than reported. He said the discrepancy was a misunderstanding, but authorities pursued the case, leading to court proceedings in Leipzig.
Instead of hiring a lawyer, the 41-year-old turned to an AI chatbot, which he consulted extensively over several months. The tool helped him draft a lengthy request to challenge the judge’s impartiality. Unusual in structure and filled with bullet points, the 40-page submission imitated legal language and raised multiple alleged violations, including breaches of due process and judicial neutrality.
The court ultimately accepted the bias claim, but not because of the strength of the AI-generated arguments. The case was later dropped under the ‘Opportunitätsprinzip’, meaning prosecutors deemed it not worth pursuing further. As a result, Hinz avoided both a fine and a criminal record. |
https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/man-uses-ai-chatbot-to-defend-himself-in-court-and-wins-530628548
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Posted: Mon, 20th Apr 2026 22:12 Post subject: |
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we do that at work all the time. get a gov letter or fine. bomb them with 50 pages of counter arguments and make em regret ever mailing us as they have to read it all by law
im talking 20 euros of postage fees lol
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