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Mutantius
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I vote agaisnt EU, Africa is a dying continent they dont have alot of time.
And where did I say I tolerate baby rape?
Zimbabwe wont even recieve any funds, the US could remove him instead of removing Saddam they are nearly equal in death tolls.
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:07 Post subject: |
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USA cannot remove the zimbabwe leader without being labeled racist, you know that.
If you are so concerned about africa then why dont you move their and help them dig wells? Are you afraid of the horrible crime rates or the rampant disease, or are you just plagued with guilt because europeans in the past tryed to bring a civilized society to africa.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:24 Post subject: |
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You boggle my mind. What are you talking about iraqis for? The average guy on the street cant pick a iraqi out form a pakistani and that iraqi sure is trying to hide as good as he can not because his cousin my be blowing up soldiers.
If people are trying to destroy africa then why do they waste money on it through billions and billions in aid?
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fraich3
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:26 Post subject: |
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To make it look like we care ?
Plus its an investment. Kinda like how the US invested a whole lot of money in Japan, right after throwing two nuclear bombs at them.
"Zipfero is the biggest fucking golddigger ever" - Mutantius
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:28 Post subject: |
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No idea really, they are not even making a facade though maybe the millions are the facade?
Well US has attacked Iraq and if I may quote you:
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USA cannot remove the zimbabwe leader without being labeled racist, you know that. |
Now shouldnt the US be labeled as a racist since they attacked a american minority?
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:28 Post subject: |
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Yes now look at japan, just about every electronic in my house comes from japan.
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fraich3
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:35 Post subject: |
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Whats your point ?
That japan benefited from getting two nuclear bombs at them ?
Or that Japan has done really well, and been productive and outsmarted the competitors ?
"Zipfero is the biggest fucking golddigger ever" - Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:44 Post subject: |
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Possibly both? Im not sure, but im sure its better to have 2 atom bombs then everyone die from a ground invasion.
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fraich3
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 23:56 Post subject: |
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I find that hard to belive.
Nuclear bombs does not only kill people, it destroys the enviorment and cause birth effects on many people for many years. Plus not yo say all the struckteres that have to be rebuild.
Now a ground invastion would still have killed alot of people, but in my eyes its definatly the lesser of two evils.
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 00:18 Post subject: |
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| fraich3 wrote: | I find that hard to belive.
Nuclear bombs does not only kill people, it destroys the enviorment and cause birth effects on many people for many years. Plus not yo say all the struckteres that have to be rebuild.
Now a ground invastion would still have killed alot of people, but in my eyes its definatly the lesser of two evils. |
Couldn't agree more. Even though I see killing in general as very useless an a-bomb sure fucks up things more than ground invasion.
Kirk, the US claimed they were removing saddam to save the iraqi people from saddam. So why not help in africa if you are so righteous and the saviour of the entire world?
But I guess I am wrong when I say this: perhaps OIL (yes you know black liquid stuff that will be pretty valuable in 20 years) matters a LITTLE more then human lives for the american government.
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jojox
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 00:30 Post subject: |
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| fraich3 wrote: | I find that hard to belive.
Nuclear bombs does not only kill people, it destroys the enviorment and cause birth effects on many people for many years. Plus not yo say all the struckteres that have to be rebuild.
Now a ground invastion would still have killed alot of people, but in my eyes its definatly the lesser of two evils. |
I have to second that! As much as i reject war as a means of politics there are cases where its inevitable - see nazi germany or japan for example. But nuclear weapons are among the worst way to fight. A ground invasion can at least be somewhat selective in who is killed. Most soldiers show at least some traces of common sense, whereas a nuclear bomb killes every living being in a large radius and cripples everything around it no matter how innocent.
In other words its the maniacs weapon of choice... |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 00:41 Post subject: |
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Hehe you actually believe i supported that war for israel in iraq kosmiq? You must not read my world headlines posts much.
If that war was all about oil then why the hell am i paying 3 bucks a gallon for gas and oil is the most expensive it has ever been?
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 07:27 Post subject: |
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| kirkblitz wrote: | Hehe you actually believe i supported that war for israel in iraq kosmiq? You must not read my world headlines posts much.
If that war was all about oil then why the hell am i paying 3 bucks a gallon for gas and oil is the most expensive it has ever been? |
Well I am actually staying out of the World Headlines most of the time as some real dumbass (not blaming you here and not calling you a dumbass either as I ain't talking about you!) made stupid threads and couldn't even see what we others were talking about and he kept claiming that US is the best. The arguments never ended and he wouldn't give in one inch even though everyone was correct but he just kept going on. No matter, I think he's banned now or something.
Nice to know you ain't supporting the iraqi war, brings a warm feeling to my heart... 
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javlar
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 08:16 Post subject: |
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| kirkblitz wrote: | Hehe you actually believe i supported that war for israel in iraq kosmiq? You must not read my world headlines posts much.
If that war was all about oil then why the hell am i paying 3 bucks a gallon for gas and oil is the most expensive it has ever been? |
Dont complain about that 
We pay around 6$ for a gallon. Might be even more, i had to do a quick calculation cause we dont have gallons here, we have liters. And we dont have dollars we have kronor
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javlar
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 08:24 Post subject: |
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Oh and a bit more on topic.
I consider myself quite tolerant. And being tolerant is a good thing as long as you dont take it to long. Being tolerant doesnt mean you have to like everything. It means you tolerate it.
And here's my side-note on USA.
The America we know today will fall. Sooner or later. Oh and dont take me for an america-hater or something. I love USA, pretty much everything about it. Except its politics. And the reason i say that America will fall is that every superpower throughout time have fallen. It's only sad that they speed up the process by invading countries by bogus, ignorant and tyrant reasons.
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 21:39 Post subject: |
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| kirkblitz wrote: |
If that war was all about oil then why the hell am i paying 3 bucks a gallon for gas and oil is the most expensive it has ever been? |
Um, Huricane Katrina Ring a Bell. Massive amounts of shut in facilities. This is what started high oil prices. And the fact that there hasnt been a significant discovery in the us since the 70s. But these concerns are not really the full casue of high oil prices.
Becasue there is more Oil in the US stockpile that is needed presently. OPEC is also producing at 100% capacity to try and curb inflated oil prices. The real driving force behind high oil prices is fear.
The war in theroy should have helped lower prices. Once the USA has all the major facilities under control, Analyists and speculators should have calmed down.
But lets not forget how much oil China is buying up, then we have India wanting to invest Billions into canadian Oil and Gas Prospects just to insure they get there share.
Ok now some on-topicness
After reading some horably raceist comments, and topics like the School segregation topics (That imo was just bait to further promote ones hateful adjenda)
i have come to this conculsion.
These topics will always be hate filled, biased and eventually offend or start a flame war. This has nothing to do with intolerance. These are topics that will always offend, or become offensive. And even the most tollerant person will crack after reading some of the posts. If we want to be more toleranat, then we should either chose not to read them, or topics such as these should be avoided or forbiden. The authors who start such topics are ushally the same people who always wish to promote there uneducated, raceist and entreme narrow minded heavily biased views.
Either ban the topics, or ban the authors.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Apr 2006 23:48 Post subject: |
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nono the thing that makes the oil prizes go up is a demand that stays the same as the price goes up. demand stays -> price goes up, demand still stays the same -> price goes up. Any excuse is good to point out to the masses (the dumb part of the population) that what they are doing is right/normal
you can hate whoever you want as long as you dont kill/attack/rob/etc.. them
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006 00:17 Post subject: |
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Oil prices are high because of the oligopoly structures in that market.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006 01:39 Post subject: |
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| Bigperm wrote: | | kirkblitz wrote: |
If that war was all about oil then why the hell am i paying 3 bucks a gallon for gas and oil is the most expensive it has ever been? |
Um, Huricane Katrina Ring a Bell. Massive amounts of shut in facilities. This is what started high oil prices. And the fact that there hasnt been a significant discovery in the us since the 70s. But these concerns are not really the full casue of high oil prices.
Becasue there is more Oil in the US stockpile that is needed presently. OPEC is also producing at 100% capacity to try and curb inflated oil prices. The real driving force behind high oil prices is fear.
The war in theroy should have helped lower prices. Once the USA has all the major facilities under control, Analyists and speculators should have calmed down.
But lets not forget how much oil China is buying up, then we have India wanting to invest Billions into canadian Oil and Gas Prospects just to insure they get there share.
Ok now some on-topicness
After reading some horably raceist comments, and topics like the School segregation topics (That imo was just bait to further promote ones hateful adjenda)
i have come to this conculsion.
These topics will always be hate filled, biased and eventually offend or start a flame war. This has nothing to do with intolerance. These are topics that will always offend, or become offensive. And even the most tollerant person will crack after reading some of the posts. If we want to be more toleranat, then we should either chose not to read them, or topics such as these should be avoided or forbiden. The authors who start such topics are ushally the same people who always wish to promote there uneducated, raceist and entreme narrow minded heavily biased views.
Either ban the topics, or ban the authors. |
Banning topics and authors? Well then you would have to ban the authors and topics that involve all console and PC games. Someone will always come and flame that console/game. Ban the general chatter ban all form of communication. BAN SPEECH! ban life, ban it all. Someone will always be offended.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Apr 2006 03:08 Post subject: |
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| kirkblitz wrote: | | Bigperm wrote: |
After reading some horably raceist comments, and topics like the School segregation topics (That imo was just bait to further promote ones hateful adjenda)
i have come to this conculsion.
These topics will always be hate filled, biased and eventually offend or start a flame war. This has nothing to do with intolerance. These are topics that will always offend, or become offensive. And even the most tollerant person will crack after reading some of the posts. If we want to be more toleranat, then we should either chose not to read them, or topics such as these should be avoided or forbiden. The authors who start such topics are ushally the same people who always wish to promote there uneducated, raceist and entreme narrow minded heavily biased views.
Either ban the topics, or ban the authors. |
Banning topics and authors? Well then you would have to ban the authors and topics that involve all console and PC games. Someone will always come and flame that console/game. Ban the general chatter ban all form of communication. BAN SPEECH! ban life, ban it all. Someone will always be offended. |
I have to agree with kirk, you can't just restrict expression because someone might get offended. People are too sensitive these days, almost everything offends someone. In real life, if you are offended by something you walk away, ignore it and don't involve yourself with it. It it really that hard to ignore the topics that anger and offend you? Not really, unless you have no self-control, in which case you should get the hell out since obviously you don't belong in a place that is based around free discourse.
Three choices:
1. Toughen up.
2. Learn some self-control.
3. Leave.
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006 18:05 Post subject: |
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| JeanPerrier wrote: | | nono the thing that makes the oil prizes go up is a demand that stays the same as the price goes up. demand stays -> price goes up, demand still stays the same -> price goes up. |
Exactly what i just said. And what drives demand when US and Canadian have more capacity than needed? (The latest figures show the US with surplus stock, and thats not even taking into account whats behind pipe right now) And we are now past the winter months. Analyists are scared shitless right now.
@Animal Mother
I ignore alot of post on this board.And alot of people.
But we all can do without the racism. Hence its also a board rule.
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drakgon
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Bigperm
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006 22:14 Post subject: |
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| kosmiq wrote: | I consider myself pretty openminded and I can accept most people as whom they are.
Even though I can accept that people are racist/whatever that doesn't mean I agree with them nor does it mean I think they think the right thing.
If they want to be, for example, racist sure be that but if you are going to tell me all about why I should be that too I will think that you are stupid trying to convince me into being something I don't like.
Its like Syco saying that weed is cool. Well he thinks it is, but I don't.... |
Let me clear something up tho. I don't think weed is 'cool'. Drugs (even tho me and most ppl dont consider weed a drug) arent cool. Like everything, some people can do them and so people should stay 1000 feet away from any kind of intoxicating substance.
The reason Im an advocate (if thats the right term?) for weed is because of the effects and things its done for me. Ganja is so much more than something that gets u 'high'. It can allow you to solve problems who have, like shit you have to think about that would bother you if werent blazing.
Like ive said, doing drugs, any kind, to escape shit is ridiculous and any ganja smoker who is a mature adult will tell you that. Weed and a few other substances allow you to experience yourself outside the norm. And how do you know if you really have control of yourself if u exist in one state, all the time?
Anyway, Im not advocate of drug use. Like i said, some people should never even smell weed, let alone smoke it. But, Im not going to come down on someone if they smoke or drink. As long as it doesnt affect their lives, in anyway, whats the harm? the worst thing they are doing is hurting themselves. Everyone has that choice and we all do shit that hurts our bodies and minds. Some people smoke dope, some people over excercise, dont eat etc etc My point is, everyone has a vice that they really should drop. Why classify one as being horrible and illegal and all that shit and accept all the others?
Not fair imo.
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