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Prickford really needs to stfu and gtfo Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 17:45    Post subject:
"I play at 1440p with settings super high and am super happy with that trade off"

I'm sure that's 1920×1440. lmao
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 17:47    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/borderlands-4-is-a-premium-game-made-for-premium-gamers-is-randy-pitchfords-tone-deaf-retort-to-the-performance-backlash-if-youre-trying-to-drive-a-monster-truck-with-a-leaf-blowers-motor-youre-going-to-be-disappointed/

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What a moron. There is literally no reason to force ray tracing on everyone
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friketje




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 17:58    Post subject:
Pickford is not a communication genius.

He is 100% right though. Somehow PC gamers expect to max out the game and demand silky smooth 100+ FPS playing new games at max settings in 4k. With older hardware. Say pre 2020 your system was considered "old" after 2-3 years and people blamed their system, not the game.
People even upgraded for a new game.

Problem is though we are facing absurd inflated hardware prices. For years you could buy a high end rig for 1000 euro's with premium parts. Then it went to 1500 euro's (spend that in 2019, only saving a bit on the GPU with a 2070 super). Now it's 2500 euro's for a high end GPU. So upgrading is not that obvious and mid-range GPU's aren't spectacular, they deliver 3-5 year old performance. So most people can't afford a real upgrade. And even if you do, it's not that spectacular what you get on screen for your 3000+ euro's.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 18:26    Post subject:
No, he is not 100% right get your head out of his ass. You don't force ray tracing
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 18:31    Post subject:
u do if performance allows for it, spiderman 2 did it, indiana jones, doom the dark ages...and probably some others


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friketje




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 18:46    Post subject:
For me Borderlands runs like any other current game at 1440p mid-high settings, tbh it's a bit better then avarage.

I realy don't know why people are complaining.
Even WAB guy praised the games performance.

Think the people that are complaining don't understand how to set up the graphics.
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chill out man, life is beautifull...
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 22:13    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
For me Borderlands runs like any other current game at 1440p mid-high settings, tbh it's a bit better then avarage.

I realy don't know why people are complaining.
Even WAB guy praised the games performance.

Think the people that are complaining don't understand how to set up the graphics.


Mack even said in that vid he had crap hardware. Thought he said something like a RTX 2xxx series?
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 23:25    Post subject:
Im pretty sure by now UE5 just craps all over itself at 4K since most UE5 games ive tried on 1440p ran okay. Never perfect but not nearly as bad as other reports led me to believe.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 23:30    Post subject:
4k is one of the biggest boondoggles a gamer can get himself into. Just not worth it over 1440p unless you’re one of those special people who sit like 2 feet away from a 42” tv and pretend it’s a good experience
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Sep 2025 23:51    Post subject:
all ur credibility is thrown out the window when u say gaming at 4k


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 00:46    Post subject:
3440x1440 OLED ultrawide is perfect for gaming, fantastic aspect ratio and resolution is sharp enough. Had to test out 42" 4K LG OLED as PC screen for some time, it was horrible size in desk usage and the 16:9 aspect ratio feels so bad after ultrawide.
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at the rate devs are so hostile to their customers one has to wonder if they even care at all about their money. Is it all a stolen CC money laundering scheme? Are the paychecks from nvidia comfy enough for the next decade or two? Are there enough retards out there that are happy to play at 30fps at 1080p with the cards the majority have?
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 07:56    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
friketje wrote:
For me Borderlands runs like any other current game at 1440p mid-high settings, tbh it's a bit better then avarage.

I realy don't know why people are complaining.
Even WAB guy praised the games performance.

Think the people that are complaining don't understand how to set up the graphics.


Mack even said in that vid he had crap hardware. Thought he said something like a RTX 2xxx series?


True, he has a 2080. So it's not even the case that this game needs a more modern GPU with better raytracing capabilities.
Any decent rig should be able to run this game.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 10:24    Post subject:
One thing these modern game devs don't understand is that Borderlands 3 plays and even LOOKS better at 4k and 144fps than Borderlands 4 at sub 60 fps and whatever upscaling tech they have to force it to play on 4k monitors. Gaming at high fps and 4k monitor is just crisp and fast, while upscaling and raytracing is just useless fluff that ruins all the smoothness.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 11:04    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
One thing these modern game devs don't understand is that Borderlands 3 plays and even LOOKS better at 4k and 144fps than Borderlands 4 at sub 60 fps and whatever upscaling tech they have to force it to play on 4k monitors. Gaming at high fps and 4k monitor is just crisp and fast, while upscaling and raytracing is just useless fluff that ruins all the smoothness.


Not defending this shit, but the game is crisp and super smooth even with all AI black magic enabled on my oled at pretty much locked "175fps", looks also miles ahead than BL3, especially lightning wise.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 11:40    Post subject:
With modern games visual quality and the increase in compute needed don’t scale anymore. It’s in the details, but at the cost of lower fps. Same as a new rig will not give you the wow factor you had in the past. And when you paid more money then ever for a new system, people are gonna be disappointed with a game like this.
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friketje wrote:
With modern games visual quality and the increase in compute needed don’t scale anymore. It’s in the details, but at the cost of lower fps. Same as a new rig will not give you the wow factor you had in the past. And when you paid more money then ever for a new system, people are gonna be disappointed with a game like this.


They're just cramming nanites everywhere at random until it's barely running 50fps on dlss, then the optimisation crew needs to lower the details so it gets close to 60fps, and job done. It's nonsense that high end gpus are so expensive, it's much higher nonsense that high end Gpus are drawing so much power, but the devs should then lower the high end nominator and develop for more power efficient end.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 12:29    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
at the rate devs are so hostile to their customers one has to wonder if they even care at all about their money. Is it all a stolen CC money laundering scheme? Are the paychecks from nvidia comfy enough for the next decade or two? Are there enough retards out there that are happy to play at 30fps at 1080p with the cards the majority have?


He is not a dev and will never be Laughing Prickford is a businessman
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Played a bit before going work, unlocked new head customization called "Decaying Hairline" Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 13:02    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
friketje wrote:
With modern games visual quality and the increase in compute needed don’t scale anymore. It’s in the details, but at the cost of lower fps. Same as a new rig will not give you the wow factor you had in the past. And when you paid more money then ever for a new system, people are gonna be disappointed with a game like this.


They're just cramming nanites everywhere at random until it's barely running 50fps on dlss, then the optimisation crew needs to lower the details so it gets close to 60fps, and job done. It's nonsense that high end gpus are so expensive, it's much higher nonsense that high end Gpus are drawing so much power, but the devs should then lower the high end nominator and develop for more power efficient end.


Nvidia/amd are pushing for this tech to sell hardware. Almost every aaa game is sponsored by them.
With prices higher then ever but without any worthwile innovation, this bubble is gonna burst. Wouldn’t be surprised if we all use low power mini pc’s in a decade for gaming. High end just isn’t worth it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 13:58    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
3440x1440 OLED ultrawide is perfect for gaming


maybe but not perfect as everyday monitor, many games dont even have proper uw support, also not good for watching 16:9 movies which including tvshows are many



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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 16:12    Post subject:
Dickford is just a troll, please PLEASE don't tell me anyone takes him seriously
Anyway this got me thinking about reinstalling BL3 and wtf the cracled ultimate edition needs 104GB?! Not so weird nowadays but surprising for a 2019 game Surprised


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 16:47    Post subject:
i dont think he is a troll, its just the way he is, i still remember that scandal with the magic trick usb stick or watever it was that was found some years ago... Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Sep 2025 18:37    Post subject:
I still say he's a troll, but that episode was just straight mental retardation OR something appearing like that in order to cover something even worse that could be on that pen


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They could use better pictures of themselves for the thumbnails or better yet, not put themselves in them Laughing





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