Practically all Muslims name their boys Muhammad, whereas everyone else choses different names. If 7% of the population choses the same name, then obviously its going to be the most popular name.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Practically all Muslims name their boys Muhammad, whereas everyone else choses different names. If 7% of the population choses the same name, then obviously its going to be the most popular name.
Thank you for your reassurence.
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Name 'Yahya' jumps 33 ranks to become 93rd most popular boy name in UK
Muhammad was the most popular boys name in the UK in 2024. Mohammed took number 21, Mohammad took number 53, followed by Yusuf at 67, Musa at 73, Ibrahim at 77, and as mentioned, Yahya at 93.
The name “Yahya” entered the top 100 baby boys’ names list in the United Kingdom in 2024, seeing a larger increase in popularity than any other boy’s name in the same year. This was revealed by the Office for National Statistics’ report on names for baby boys in England and Wales 2024 report, released July 31.
According to the list, the name Yahya is ranked at number 93, having jumped 33 points since 2023, with a total of 583 baby boys given the name across the UK.
While Yahya – the Arabic name for John the Baptist – is not uncommon in the Muslim world, many have commented on its surge in popularity following the October 7, 2023, massacre orchestrated by Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
while its true it can't be compared to our more varied names, they also breed like there's no tomorrow. In the schools in my city they by far outnumber Swedish kids. Classes are like 1-5 whites, rest is muslims. It's been like that for the last 10+ years.
As our former PM Stefan Löfven said "the reward will come, just a little further ahead..." (this was some 10 years ago) . Sure, this "reward" is gangs, rapes, bombings and other crime... some great reward indeed whatever, it's what people want, they continue to vote for this so we deserve nothing less of course.
while its true it can't be compared to our more varied names, they also breed like there's no tomorrow. In the schools in my city they by far outnumber Swedish kids. Classes are like 1-5 whites, rest is muslims. It's been like that for the last 10+ years.
As our former PM Stefan Löfven said "the reward will come, just a little further ahead..." (this was some 10 years ago) . Sure, this "reward" is gangs, rapes, bombings and other crime... some great reward indeed whatever, it's what people want, they continue to vote for this so we deserve nothing less of course.
School I went to 20 years ago has become a 'concentration' school, only a handful of white, rest Moroccans.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Same old and beaten to a pulp point - European immigration and tolerance policies will be the death of Western Europe as we know and love (to visit in my case), as Muslims will corrupt the very core of it. And then Western Europe will turn into Eurabistan, and/or the right wing backlash from the oppressed and neglected natives would push it into fascism and/or civil war.
I have hope for Eastern Europe thou, while the West rots deeper and deeper, East gets more economically and culturally viable. Eastern Europe got Russia to worry about, alas.
Hasn't Muhammad been in the most popular names in the world for awhile?
I know since late 90's it was (or was, dipped, and came back up recently..dont track it). Because I remember Michael was the most popular in the US at the time, Globally it was Muhammad.
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Call me cynical (shock there), but when simply a name defines the entire conclusion of a person's intent and personality (even worse an entire group of people named that), something is wrong with how people think.
Or if that's the rule: Fuck all Dylans and Kadens. They are all white pretentious stuck up entitled assholes. Don't even get me started on all the Drama Queens named Alexis or Crystal.
And, OMG the dudes named Harley or Travis? Totally skinhead dickheads with a white supremacy complex. Now if your named Tryon, or DeShawn? Some people have strong opinions about you before meeting you (probably the Harley and Travis ones do), and probably right, just look at your name...
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No, you're absolutely correct. Hence my laughing emoticon, because I also realize the racist thinking behind it.
I see it more as part of a bigger picture, a certain trend/shift in our society. Like our schools changing, increase in violence towards LGBTQ+, seggregation between women/men in swimming pools. Even insulting islam has become a punishable offence (we've had a case here that luckily got reverted after higher appeal, but it's become law in the uk).
For me it's not the name, but what it implies; islamism creeping into our society.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Oh I know sorry if felt directed at you, I was adding onto your comment, how its slightly chicken little to panic over what people are named.
I agree judge each person off their actions, not their name. Hell not even by what they are, but how they are individually.
Its a type of muslim that is the issue, not muslims of specific name.
Going "Too many people named Muhammad", reeks of the same sentiment Trump uses when he says "Barack Hussein Obama", where the accent on that part of the name is to convey a meaning.
It feels like some people are on the verge of walking down the street, with torches and signs chanting " J̶e̶w̶s Muhammads will not replace us!". If you guys want some company I know a Harley and a Travis that would join up in your march
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Works with Adolf thou@SumZero
I even feel sorry for all other famous Adolfs that lived before and during the life of their most notorious namesake.
If parents name their child Magometh or any other variant of that murderous holy peadophile first name, they are devout Muslims for sure; that alone should be a cause for concern for the non-muslim countries they inhabit.
Of course, the "enlightened" liberals would whine racism.
But that's the point, it shouldn't work. It's a flaw in human nature. Not a reinforcement that its OK to do.
And I don't care what someone names their kid. Name them Magometh Hitler Dahmer Epstein, for all I care. Shitty to do to the kid as parents due to that flaw in humans to correlate without cause. But it's just sounds used to identify which specific someone it is, to me.
Edit: wait are we using religious names as a gauge of the parents twisted intents and morals? I got a list of old [bible/torah] and new testament names people name kids after some prettttty shitty people. Some also banging kids (If it has hair on the field. Go play ball type thing back then)
I mean...Im named Michael. The Archangel banished to hell over his desire for power that led to his rebellion to try to overthrow God.
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From my experience the hardcore muslim kids (boys) get along very well with the new conservative smoothbrain kids. They share the same values after all.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
But that's the point, it shouldn't work. It's a flaw in human nature. Not a reinforcement that its OK to do.
Adolf, swastika, even German military uniform look, all bear the blemish of fascism just because Nazi party was associated with those things. That's the world we live in. Devout Christians wouldn't name their boys Judas, while Jews have no qualms about this name. Muhammed was a terrible REAL person unlike the overwhelming majority of old and new testament figures. Anyone at present who still thinks he is a perfect prophet whose life should serve as an example to follow, should be banished from free world. Which is of course will never happen due to modern sensitivities of lefty elites in power in Western Europe.
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I mean...Im named Michael. The Archangel banished to hell over his desire for power that led to his rebellion to try to overthrow God.
Either I am ignorant of modern Christian mythology, or you've fallen victim to apocryphal heresy, or you confuse Michael with Lucifer.
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From my experience the hardcore muslim kids (boys) get along very well with the new conservative smoothbrain kids. They share the same values after all.
Sure, to a point there could be similarities between different groups, but only to a point.
A name, and a symbol that was co-opted with intent to mean a thing, and a uniform specifically made for people with a unified outlook that pledged to wear it for that goal, are not even remotely the same in the reason they have symbolism.
One is a human quirk, the other two was explicitly formed to be by those that made them.
And depends on which flavor of christianity out of the dozens you follow if michael helped fight satan,protected israel (was only negotiator for them to God depending on which flavor you ask), or had envy for God. Even some of them disagree on if Michael, when fighting satan cast them to hell, to earth, or went with them.
In mine anyway (southern US baptist I was raised). Michael fought satan, then (I assume..never explained why as most things) our denomination/church/whatever took "Michael = He who is like god" to mean "Who who likens HIMSELF to god", and in it also, Michael is [turns into?] Adam (first male) sent to earth to be tested for his envy, and failed the test with Eve.
Back to that: Who was cast out of heaven, why; and was it to hell, to earth, or what..ask 10 denominations, get 11 answers.
Ours:
Spoiler:
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven of Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon, and they did not prevail, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down.
Taken as: Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon, and they [Michael] did not prevail. And there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. And [also] the great dragon was thrown down.
[something something vague timeline wise] Bam, and as such he is now Adam on earth to be tested by the tree.
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Muhammed was a terrible real person unlike the overwhelming majority of old and new testament figures.
See that's where we disagree. I think old and new has its fair share of terrible people also. I'd say the majority of the ones in the old testament was terrible people, that had random moments of 'good' for sake of narrating a moral.
And some God is the only thing that stopped them, like came down to stop them. If GOD himself is the only thing that stops you. You are not a good person.
Like ALMOST raping your daughter, to realize its wrong and a sin. Or two daughters banging their drunk dad in a cave, BUT because of the moral: they thought they was the last on earth and needed to continue to super important divine lineage...[but it's wrong, because it's the wrong linage, unlike the other ones that do incest and OK because...right lineage?]
Sort of like if it was found out a serial killer volunteered at a puppy shelter on weekends. Shitty person, that happen to do good things.
And being real or not would be irrelevant (edit: damn auto correct) on if they named their kid after them. As, the 'symbolism' of what it stands for is the important part given that human quirk again.
Or it could be like me. They liked the name Michael. Not because of the idea I symbolize the man cast to earth to test him and failed. But simply because its a common name among white people they liked...
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I think for devout Muslims entire life of their peadophile prophet is holy, everything he did or said are to be imitated by his followers even today.
While for Jews and later for the Jewish sect that would become Christianity as long as the sacred books figures kept their faith at the end, their sins and misdeed are acknowledged but forgiven and redeemed at this aforementioned end. Unlike in Islam, the lives of those imaginary men in their entireties are not considered holy, even that of Jesus (even he had some doubts and fears toward his death and resurrection or so I heard).
I think for devout Christians/Jews entire life/story of their Murderous God is holy, everything he did or said are to be imitated by his followers even today.
Seems we are at an impasse.
I think all 3 are shit and the most important head of them is a egomaniacal immoral tyrant, you just think 1 is.
Well...Jesus, jesus is cool in my book. Not a bad guy. But his dad/alter ego/split personality..whatever it was as they are the same person. HUGE blood thirty rage machine that will tell people to kill other people for anything.
Got bored waiting months for moses, and made a cow statue to look at? Death...Pick up sticks on saturday? Death..Talk back to your parents...death. Married woman cheated? Death...Man cheated?..death [Edit: had to look it up thought it was pay money, nope it's death]. BUT if you are married and male, and cheat in ANOTHER town you don't live in...cool. Unless she was of another faith..then death. And look out if you disobey God, sometimes if he is in a bad mood...your whole town..death
A woman claiming virginity at marriage but found not to be? Death
Or..just exist around the time of Noah. Death.
A heathen that never heard of that particular god, so don't worship a dude you never heard of? You guessed it.. probably death.
Just some kid chilling living his life and your Pharaoh held some jews you had no input on? Hope you are not first born...yep...death.
Spoiler:
It's almost like all Abrahamic religions they are all just 'The telephone game, but over centuries got kinda garbled' of the same sky person.
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--I think for devout Christians/Jews entire life/story of their Murderous God is holy, everything he did or said are to be imitated by his followers even today
But this one is for sure an imaginary one, and being a God he can't be imitated by mere mortals, and no one names their kids after him. Tetragrammaton is a tabou in hebrew, at least
--And there was war in heaven of Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon, and they did not prevail, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down.
The shit load of versions of the revelation 12.7-12.9 I Google checked has Michael victorious over the Dragon (satan) and his angels. And the dragon and his angels were banished/defeated/ thrown out of Heaven by Michael and his angels.
Dude , no wonder you are an atheist, you were in the full blown heretic sect
Dude , no wonder you are an atheist, you were in the full blown heretic sect
Everyone is, except for the one they are in.
"Everyone says everyone else is going to hell. They can't all be right"
Why Christianity colloquially wasn't a 'thing' before the push to unify them in the name of politics and to build numbers for religious shoving matches mid 1900's. Compare them to each other, some believe WILDLY different things.
Spoiler:
A man is walking across a bridge and sees another man about to jump.
He says:
“Don’t do it!”
The man replies:
“Nobody loves me.”
The first man says:
“God loves you! Do you believe in God?”
“Yes.”
“Are you Christian or Jewish?”
“Christian.”
“Me too! Protestant or Catholic?”
“Protestant.”
“Me too! What denomination?”
“Baptist.”
“Me too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?”
“Northern Baptist.”
“Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”
“Northern Conservative Baptist.”
“Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?”
“Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.”
“Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”
“Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”
The first man shouts:
“Die, heretic!”
…and pushes him off the bridge.
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But this one is for sure an imaginary one, and being a God he can't be imitated by mere mortals, and no one names their kids after him. Tetragrammaton is a tabou in hebrew, at least
No, but they do for Abraham[Avraham] (like my friend Avi). Same-same to me as naming for Mahommed.
Abraham argued as Pro-spare Sodom with God (but not for his own family in other instances). And took Hagar (well given, she had no say in it) as a concubine for the sake of impregnating her. And by the timeline she had to be early teens, given by the time she bore Ishmael, she was likely in her late teens.
He endangered Sarah to protect himself.
He also sent his son and Hagar (his sons mom) into the desert [edit..not woods, no woods around there ..lol] at the request of a step sister, and God had to save them from dying.
Treated Ishmael like shit once he had a 'real' son. And pretty much told him to go fuck himself.
And the whole binding of Isaac thing.
And then a lot of questionable stuff in the name of God (besides the Issac thing).
Sure not on the same scale of Mohammed (Depending on your pro/con take of each book). But surely not someone worthy of naming your kid after.
Not defending Mohammed, not in a million years. Just questioning the 'morals' of the other founding patriarchs, and if naming a kid after them, in all religions, means you uphold and condone all the actions and stances of that book set person.
Or could it be sometimes merely tradition driving the naming (like in the case of Avi).
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I'm sure all those UK newly born Muhammads were all named so due to tradition, and their parents are not towel headed Muslim extremists, but hard working integration driven UK patriots.
I bet you wish now your Palestinian Arab collegue Amed was also called some sort of Magomed, but he is a living proof, there are other Arab boy names.
And I'm pretty sure not all those newly born Muhammad's were all named so due to having pro pedophilia parents. If I did think that is why they did, we would be both wrong. (Everything is a bell curve on large enough scale)
Are you saying all Mohammed's have parents that are 'towel wearing extremist'??
There is also other boy names other that Avraham. The jews that name kids that are only the most Hasidic ultra-Orthodox Jews? (Do you not see the error in the logic you give for one, but don't apply to any other?)
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whatever, it's what people want, they continue to vote for this so we deserve nothing less of course.
