System Shock 2
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Aug 2019 22:29    Post subject:
The edginess is oozing
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2019 00:10    Post subject:
Night Dive Studios can be trusted to make a nice remake. I will definitely buy it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2019 01:54    Post subject:
It's not a remake, it's an enhanced version. SS1 is the one being remade.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2019 05:53    Post subject:
Well, I was thinking that they will remake the game in the Kex engine but yeah, enhanced edition describes it better.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2019 08:08    Post subject:
Unfortunately it won't have New Dark as the base, the person who does the edits wants to stay anonymous (since it's a big possibility that he'll be sued otherwise).

The game is pretty flawless as it is, but there are still a lot of texture, animation and engine tweaks that i'd like to see, but from i know, their "enhanced" editions are usually pretty limited, mostly they seem to fix issues with resolution and e.g OS problems and interface tweaks.

So i'm not sure how "enhanced" it would be in comparison to what we have, which is pretty substantial things... the community has worked on this game for over a decade, bug fixes (probably 1000's, depending on what/how you count) and tweaks.. I guess a lot of it could be compatible though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2019 23:24    Post subject:
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https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/12/no-one-knows-who-is-patching-system-shock-2/


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2019 23:34    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Unfortunately it won't have New Dark as the base

They will do what they usually do. They will re-implement the whole friggin game in their own Kex engine.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2019 23:47    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
vurt wrote:
Unfortunately it won't have New Dark as the base

They will do what they usually do. They will re-implement the whole friggin game in their own Kex engine.


yeah, but it's basically like an emulator with its own rendering engine, so they just take the whole game and put it through it, as i understand it. so it works with mods, which is good.

i'm just not sure what their engine could add really, better lighting or something? i haven't played any of their enhanced versions (i think, i tend to mix them up with Beamdog). But New Dark adds a ton of fixes and enhancements, its been in development for years. I doubt this enhanced version will top it..

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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2019 23:52    Post subject:
"You know", but then you "don't know" what the new version will bring. Laughing Read the article where it's explained.

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“They have done an amazing job, but at some point those efforts will collide with our own as we wish to improve the original title, most notably the multiplayer, which is in dire need of support.”


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“Our current plans are to create an Enhanced Edition with a number of improvements, the most important being a working, stable co-op multiplayer experience,”


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2019 23:53    Post subject:
i meant i know who's patching the game.

MP or not, it'll still lack the features of new dark so.. but sure, it's something Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Aug 2019 02:00    Post subject:
System Shock 1 is getting a full remake, System Shock 3 is under development. All we need is a full remake of System Shock 2. Last time I played through SS2 I remember using texture mods, resolution mods, better polygon models and so on to the point of it almost looking modern (at the time).


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Aug 2019 02:23    Post subject:
It's one of few old games that still works graphically i think, the geometry does not need to be high-poly for this type of environment. what can suck is the enemies themselves (though there's a mod that makes them better).. last time i played it in 3D vision, it was really great.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Aug 2019 02:50    Post subject:
Yep, the standard version of the game along with all the graphical goodies available and .ini tweaks for the post-processing already is essentially a fully functioning enhanced edition. Apart from the obvious limitations in terms of animations and physics, both the atmosphere/design itself and core gameplay definitely stand the test of time, it still is a very immersive (and polished) experience.

Perhaps some changes could be made balance-wise - I replayed it just a few weeks ago and several late-game skills/guns weren't really better than the most basic choices, but it's nothing too serious considering all the different approaches. I'm kinda curious about the new version, although as a lone wolf I don't expect much.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 23:30    Post subject:


Hmmm I need to check this again with ALL the mods (even the enemy retexture one... probably).


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Aug 2021 03:41    Post subject:
You might want to wait for the remaster, it will have some mods included.. the new enemy graphics looks sweet too (Swedish guy i recently talked to by pure chance who's doing those).
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd May 2023 01:38    Post subject:
not something i'd pay money for. rather just play the gog version with vurt's textures etc. i play it every few years. what a game.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd May 2023 01:43    Post subject:
I wonder how much they actively work on it. It took less time to make the original game than these updates
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd May 2023 10:42    Post subject:
oh they are compelely reversing it
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System Shock 2: Enhanced Edition was created with the goal of reverse engineering the original code to port SS2 to the KEX Engine


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd May 2023 11:42    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd May 2023 19:15    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
not something i'd pay money for. rather just play the gog version with vurt's textures etc. i play it every few years. what a game.


Same, I doubt this will compare !


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd May 2023 19:32    Post subject:
my textures/meshes are included Razz at least they were a few years ago, no idea if they changed it.

i haven't heard anything about VR Sad that was the thing i was mostly excited for.
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i'm perhaps not.. super impressed? might be good to have it in a new engine?

it can never live up to how the community fixes this game on a constant basis. unless they can be directly implemented into their engine too.

i mean.. this what we are talking about here (this is approx. ONE month of fixes from Zylonbane). And yes, the dude is likely insane Laughing i love him though.
...and yes, this goes on year after year Smile

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Mar 2025 23:44    Post subject:
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The System Shock 2 25th Anniversary Remaster is landing on the 26th of June for PC and consoles




Classic remustard with extra steps, a bit of a shame considering how great the System Shock Remake was. I imagine the excruciating development process of that project followed by so-so sales figures was a never again(tm) moment for Nightdive Sad Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Mar 2025 05:48    Post subject:
https://www.eurogamer.net/nightdive-vaguely-hints-at-possible-system-shock-2-remake-after-remasters-release

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"I've been asked twice earlier today why we didn’t do a remake," Nightdive director of business development Larry Kuperman told VGC in a recent interview. "And I said, 'Are you somehow under the impression that because we do a remaster that we won't be able to do a remake in the future?'" Kuperman's comments could, of course, be easily dismissed as purely hypothetical, if he hadn't then added, "That might be something that I can either confirm or deny. But there's going to be content coming out."


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Mar 2025 07:20    Post subject:
Enemy models look better than expected. They added quite a few weapon animations too, enemy animations were in dire need of improvement though to go along with the new models.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Mar 2025 08:07    Post subject:
Eldron/Eld is a piece of shit (swedish dude, who i run into sometimes on forums and it never ends nicely Wink ), but i'll definitely try it out.

I'm mostly curious how those intestine tunnels look.. don't think they've showed any, that must have been pure hell to retexture because that part is rough (not seamless etc). Wonder if they really got that part right..
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