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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Feb 2025 00:43    Post subject:
https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1inpox7/rtx_50_series_12vhpwr_megathread/

https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1io4a67/an_electrical_engineers_take_on_12vhpwr_and/

So what do we think? Seems like nvidia fucked up but quite mix bag of people using daisy chain and questionable aftermarket cables.


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Feb 2025 04:17    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1inpox7/rtx_50_series_12vhpwr_megathread/

https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1io4a67/an_electrical_engineers_take_on_12vhpwr_and/

So what do we think? Seems like nvidia fucked up but quite mix bag of people using daisy chain and questionable aftermarket cables.


It has nothing to do with "questionable cables" or anything like that, it's literally Nvidia fucking everything up this time, hard.

This should explain it well even for people who dont understand how they work
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Feb 2025 04:25    Post subject:
It's time that ixi makes a new gif with RTX50 disaster. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2025 17:06    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
https://x.com/GawroskiT/status/1890397157569528030

wtf
FFS AMDERP Facepalm


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Feb 2025 13:26    Post subject:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-is-16-6-faster-than-rtx-4070-ti-super-in-leaked-3dmark-tests

so this will translate to roughly 10% performance in real-life gaming environments?

which in turn means that you really pay for the new software features this generation (which would probably easily be possible with previous gen as well)
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Feb 2025 07:43    Post subject:
Hmmm.... I am curious about the MSI 5080 Ventus 3x.

It's "only" 1562 USD/1495 EUR, and it would be a pretty good upgrade over my 3070.

But then there might be the speculated 5080ti with more VRAM....


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Feb 2025 08:06    Post subject:
There's always something around the corner

A 4080S/5080 would be a big step up from that 3070
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Feb 2025 12:45    Post subject:
I'm in the same situation with a 3070. I can't see the upgrade being worth the price but I'm undecided as yet. I'm going to wait to see what AMD offer and decide from there.
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Ridiculous price gouging going on. It's worse than previous generations. And of course, scalpers trying to sell "on order"-cards they don't even have for up to 9999 $'s.



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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Feb 2025 15:34    Post subject:
it's just as i said: this generation you pay for the software features
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Feb 2025 19:19    Post subject:
No problem, unless AMDerp pulls the same stunt Sad


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Feb 2025 19:39    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
it's just as i said: this generation you pay for the software features

Not everyone. I want it for moar AI cores Razz
My 4080 is fine for gaming as it is. But more mem and more tensor/cuda cores is what I want.

Not defending it's not a meh gaming gen. It is. just I'm not after it for software features (I don't use them now on my 4080, nothing I play uses them other than MSFS and I have it off).
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 12:54    Post subject:
its pretty much a non generaton rehash cash grab. nothing more Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 15:14    Post subject:
I snatched the msi 5070 ti ventus for msrp Smile hoping they will not cancel or suspend it like with the 3080 back in the days Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 16:05    Post subject:
konkol84 wrote:
I snatched the msi 5070 ti ventus for msrp Smile hoping they will not cancel or suspend it like with the 3080 back in the days Laughing
You insane kurwa... early adopting a GPU, in the year of our lord 2025?! Good luck men Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 19:28    Post subject:
Managed to snag a MSI GeForce RTX 5080 16G VENTUS 3X OC PLUS from..... official MSI's site, lmao! Meanwhile every Polish store in existence either doesn't have it or they have it at a 20%++++ markup.


My third MSI card, and my second ever *80 series card Very Happy (The first was the godly Geforce 8800 GTS with mighty 640 MB of VRAM, which everyone thought was overkill when I bought it Laughing Laughing Laughing)

From MSI 1070 to 3070 to 5080 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 19:36    Post subject:
SumZero wrote:
pho08 wrote:
it's just as i said: this generation you pay for the software features

Not everyone. I want it for moar AI cores Razz
My 4080 is fine for gaming as it is. But more mem and more tensor/cuda cores is what I want.

Not defending it's not a meh gaming gen. It is. just I'm not after it for software features (I don't use them now on my 4080, nothing I play uses them other than MSFS and I have it off).


If you want more AI power:

NVidia RTX 4000 Ada
Tensor performance: 327.6 TFlops
~1200 $

RTX 4080
Tensor performance: 48.74 TFlops


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konkol84 wrote:
I snatched the msi 5070 ti ventus for msrp Smile hoping they will not cancel or suspend it like with the 3080 back in the days Laughing


$750 / €714??!


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 20:51    Post subject:
Frant wrote:

If you want more AI power:

NVidia RTX 4000 Ada
Tensor performance: 327.6 TFlops
~1200 $

RTX 4080
Tensor performance: 48.74 TFlops

But then my gaming would suck Razz 4-6 hours a day is my gaming time. Otherwise, I would have a pure Tensor/AI card. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 21:04    Post subject:
You should (probably) be able to use both (4080 for gaming, 4000 Ada for AI); I'm not sure though. You'd have to look it up.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 21:06    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1itxoh7/rtx_5080_vs_980ti_physx/

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 21:15    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
You should (probably) be able to use both (4080 for gaming, 4000 Ada for AI); I'm not sure though. You'd have to look it up.

The ada is 'ok' at gaming. But not great. My 4080 more than doubles its gaming results.

Like in timespy, the #1 'mad score' ADA is still 2/3s what my 4080 has.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 22:44    Post subject:
SumZero wrote:
Frant wrote:
You should (probably) be able to use both (4080 for gaming, 4000 Ada for AI); I'm not sure though. You'd have to look it up.

The ada is 'ok' at gaming. But not great. My 4080 more than doubles its gaming results.

Like in timespy, the #1 'mad score' ADA is still 2/3s what my 4080 has.


The 4000 Ada isn't a gaming card, it's a tensor core/AI card with a simpler GPU. It's till got 20GB. I thought you were looking for AI power.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 23:21    Post subject:
Im looking to do both. Why I said 4-6 hours a day is my gaming time. Otherwise, I would have a pure Tensor/AI card. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Feb 2025 23:32    Post subject:
I want 5090 so bad. Everytime it pops on bestbuy I am out luck...


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