Kingdom Come: Deliverance / Deliverance II
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jan 2025 17:58    Post subject:
It was recently reported by a Saudi Arabian news outlet – VGA4A – that Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 has been banned in the country because it features ‘unskippable gay scenes’ in the story. I’ve already picked up this claim with Warhorse Studios and Plaion for clarification, but the full report is detailed below.

https://insider-gaming.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-banned-saudi-claim/

eh, could be some nothing burger, but not pre-ordering (i was about to). Slightly surprised since Vavra with his anti-woke statements, trying to come off really "based" and calling out other games for including these MoDeRn aUdiEnCe things.

BUT, there's also a difference if it serves the story really well.
We've got to be able to have themes of racism or gay people in games, we just want it to be well written and to serve a purpose other than brainwashing / virtue signaling.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jan 2025 18:20    Post subject:
The chuds are already reereeing at a possible leaked scene with a black scholar in it, if that one is also true then there's going to be some juicy drama Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jan 2025 18:50    Post subject:
Did they (publisher?) think he went in too hard with the anti-woke stuff and they have to "redeem" themselves? We'll see, interesting times i guess.

I know he's said he's not against e.g gay marriage, so he (Vavra) is not some ultra conservative.

Could be fake, people are big mad about the game, so of course they could try to pull something like this off Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Jan 2025 10:25    Post subject:
very much leaning towards the banning etc being fake.

not sure i understand the adding of a dinosaur (raptor) though Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 16:20    Post subject:
Fantastic angry incel rant.
Fair play if you made it through the video lol.
Also WTF is that thumbnail? Laughing

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Also anyone know what the game is @ 3:00?

Edit: I think I found it - Bloody Spell.

https://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112624&highlight=


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 17:06    Post subject:
Faggotry has not place in this story
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Imagine having this playerbase and then just doing something truly controversial and pointless like this. Jesus goddamn christ what an idiot.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 18:07    Post subject:
I don't see a problem considering homosexuality was far from uncommon in medieval cities, your complaint stems only from your needless hate.

Tell us who touched you the "wrong" way and you liked it and now you are so ashamed that you started a crusade? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 20:34    Post subject:
Ok, your reply oozes intellect, like it matters. Go suck a dick and be happy.

You just don't insert this controversial stuff and watch preorders dwindle in silence. What an absolute moron.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 20:37    Post subject:
Someone said it was a dialogue option, like an optional romantic flirt with a male.

I do agree it just seems.. unnecessary. people are pretty tired of it, maybe especially for 2020+ RPG's. Isn't it also inconsistent (i guess the dialogue must be for Henry) with the first game...

though who knows, maybe it's BS.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 20:40    Post subject:
I don't mind gay humor. That is timeless fun. but the gist is that it's not humoristic and Vara is just not addressing it, like a clown.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 20:41    Post subject:
yep, that's pretty weak of him.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:34    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Faggotry has not place in this story


So, unless I'm mistaken the whole origin of that word is due to the whole burning at the stake thing, right? Let them leave it in, and for roleplaying purposes, as was historically correct, let the player decide whether or not to whip the local village up into a frenzied mob and take matters in their own hands.

Then you've got the best of both worlds - historically accurate roleplay AND inclusion. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:35    Post subject:
ok, so he responded finally. i can see why he first decided not to... imo this looks bad.

Unlike the first game, Henry can have gay relationships. His argument is "it's not forced", like anyone would believe it would be??

There's a black person because it's an interesting thing in this time peroid. So pretty much the same argument UBI-soft can use for Yakuze.

If this was done 15 years ago i wouldn't have cared, at least not if it was well written, but in 2025, color me... bored. This shit is just soooo fucking played out, you even criticized another game for doing it, yet you had to do it yourself (likely because pushed to do it by someone and you gave in) Rolling Eyes

Edit: his post: https://x.com/aturito671949/status/1881082336093368356


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:37    Post subject:
Those Baldur's Gate III sales and figures can change a man Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:40    Post subject:
Did it really sell because there's gay shit? I doubt it.
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Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't exist.

It was all a bad bear dream.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:50    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Did it really sell because there's gay shit? I doubt it.


I don't think sales were hindered by the hyperfocus on relationships, everyone being able to fuck everyone, inclusion around every corner or the 'gay shit'

It certainly didn't hurt sales

It wouldn't even be worth discussing if it wasn't for Vavra's militant attitude the first time around, he's done a 180 for some reason and I can't think of a better one than money
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:50    Post subject:
"it's ACTUALLY not done for the modern audience"

sure jan. you could've fooled me, but then i saw you wearing that #based t-shirt so you must be right.
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Jan 2025 22:55    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
vurt wrote:
Did it really sell because there's gay shit? I doubt it.


I don't think sales were hindered by the hyperfocus on relationships, everyone being able to fuck everyone, inclusion around every corner or the 'gay shit'

It certainly didn't hurt sales

It wouldn't even be worth discussing if it wasn't for Vavra's militant attitude the first time around, he's done a 180 for some reason and I can't think of a better one than money


there are tons of people who won't touch it now though (or at least they're not gonna pay for it), people are fed up and they feel they've been lied to.

I don't think it'll appeal to MORE people because you can have gay relationships, it's not like he wanted to advertise it either to get that audience (if it exists), he seems really pissed he had to go out with it and he tries to not make people read it, he claims its a "story spoiler" (no it isn't)
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 00:13    Post subject:
Well gonna vote with my wallet on this one. Piracy it is.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 00:26    Post subject:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/discussions/

Steam forums for this game are ablaze Laughing

vurt wrote:
there are tons of people who won't touch it now though (or at least they're not gonna pay for it), people are fed up and they feel they've been lied to.


This isn't the first lie or contradiction. He criticized RPGs (Oblivion IIRC) for dozens of things (over 100, again IIRC) but then his own game suffered from the same things, and worse.

The only thing I have an issue with is Henry didn't seem gay at all in the first game, you could 'romance' multiple women and there was no hint at all about being interested in men. Now all of a sudden there gay options. It feels incredibly forced. Again, I think such changes are a biproduct of more games making characters bend to the will of the player, because it seems very out of character for Henry / Kingdom Come.

If Henry is so malleable, will other things change and allow you more agency? If not, then it would seem obvious as to why this change was made.

I suspect I know what the first banned KCDII mods on the Nexus will be
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 01:40    Post subject:
well tbh having gay romance or people of color in a game arent a deal breaker for me.
It's more the attitude of devs nowadays treating their fanbase like morons and acting like being an activist is more important than anything else.
e.g. no one complained about having ppl of color or gay relationships in dragon age origins.
Same goes for baldur's gate 3.
Why? Because the devs never did have a 180, act like activism is more important nor did they go on banning sprees on steam forums etc.(e.g. avowed)
At this point some ppl are sick and tired of it.

For me personally K:CD 1 wasn't good enough in the first place.
Combat was weak (if you didnt grind on Captain Bernardt gl)
Boring story, shitty rep system, bugs etc. This is all apparent from only 11% of people finishing the game(when i finished it in 2019 it was 13%)
So hard pass anyhow.


p.s.: I dont have anything against black people but back in the day the studio showed the middle finger to ppl who wanted more " inclusivity" and the devs said it was unrealistic.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 04:32    Post subject:
LOL, the anti-woke crusaders turned steam forums into a total shitshow cespool. I swear, those idiots have mental health issues.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 05:47    Post subject:
No, the ones putting this shit into their games have the mental illness.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 05:49    Post subject:
He had his chance to show that a game can be very successful without the modern audience stuff. So a lot of people were hopeful it could be kind of a turning point, make others inspired by it.

Now he just showed it's just not possible, you got to have the black guy, you've got to include the gay options, and the game isn't even AAA.

That's what people are pissed about and very rightfully.. He can talk the talk but not walk the walk.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 08:35    Post subject:
LMAO Vavra cucked out Laughing
Even funnier that he did so using the new methods that supposedly the new/v2.0 dei will begin to implement for newer games, to hide all the gay/diverse shit from the public preferably until release to then sprung it on the unsuspecting consumer. Or did any of the developer diaries mentioned Vavra's "oh it's more like an RPG now" excuses? So now one has to use the ratings board info from saudi arabia to find out if geralt will take it up the pooper in the witcher 4, surreal.

On the other hand, the shitstorm this is causing to the chuds is amazing Surprised


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jan 2025 09:01    Post subject:
Ok, time to check out until release, I've seen enough from the previews to be excited about it.

The last 2 weeks will be dominated by the woke-right vs woke-left trench warfare, which will be unbareable. That said, maybe it's a marketing ploy to use the grifters to get some buzz around the game.


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