S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 (Stalker) [Early Access]
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 19:21    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
https://x.com/TKsMantis/status/1859607256767266895#m

There, my favorite gaymurr lolcow says you're all full of shit, mens Cool Face


Who the fk is that retard?!


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 19:51    Post subject:
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HubU
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 21:18    Post subject:
Soooo, just launched the game:

Immediatly (even if my comp is an older one) I have TERRIBLE perf for something visually worse than Gamma BY FAR, which runs like a babe on my comp.
Had to drop the quality to something equal to PS2 levels to get anything decent.

The aiming makes me feel like I'm trying to piss in nature being drunk as a skunk.

Also, right off the bat, when I guess the game tries to teach you about anomalies (I'm talking less than a minute into the game), it spawn at first a solider. Shot the fucker and went to loot him, got killed by the anomaly I didn't even get was a thing.
Restarted: no soldier anymore.

Got outside a few seconds later, and some Zone creature runs to me, then takes a hard left and gets stuck between what looked like a tractor and a car.
Going full cheese, I start dumping ammo into the bitch, and when I reload, it twiches in some bizarre texture which apparently meant it was doing a 180, charging at me again, only to get stuck on god-knows-what a meter behind me after I dodged.

Killed it, and the fps went from what I guess was 30-40 to 5, without me moving the camera nor doing anything.



OK lads, I think this one needs... 2 more years in the oven, and a shitload of mods.
@MODS: please change the title to EARLY ALPHA ACCESS.


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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 21:31    Post subject:
And yet people are rating this one as (Very) Positive on Steam.

That will show the developers not to release broken games, amirite?!

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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 21:32    Post subject:
https://i.imgur.com/1JYzOlC.mp4


https://i.imgur.com/hqTNTAG.mp4

To be fair though I've seen this happening (although not as blatantly) in GAMMA too.
It's just that STALKER DNA I guess Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 21:49    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/1JYzOlC.mp4


https://i.imgur.com/hqTNTAG.mp4

To be fair though I've seen this happening (although not as blatantly) in GAMMA too.
It's just that STALKER DNA I guess Laughing


GAMMA tuned down the jank by 11. This is supposed to be a 1.0 release.

There is NO WAY that being playtested, those glaring issues weren't brought up.
I simpathize with the Ukrainians and all, but using the conflict as "we did as best we could with what we had" seems to be the weak-ass excuse their trying to pull.

You knew it was a wild fucking circus, yet took people's money. Your UBO's profits and margins aren't dying on the frontline, are they?



110 bucks for whatever crap they bundled on top of the 60€ version?
For what is universaly to be seen as an alpha, early beta at best?
Fuck you.


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EyePatchLives




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 22:33    Post subject:
Performance isn't great but the thing I find annoying the most is the visuals. Lighting and reflections are borked; there's a messy look to it that makes it difficult to see enemies.

It makes combat more annoying than challenging because none of it affects the AI's ability to laser you and throw grenades from a mile away like they're all former pro MLB pitchers.

Still, the atmosphere is good and guns feel really nice.


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 22:33    Post subject:
They're riding the sympathy-for-Ukraine wave (and they shouldn't be). I see no problem with the game currently being in this state (it's justified) or them charging those prices for a pre-order. What is not justified is releasing it now.

If I hadn't got the Ultimate edition for 25 bucks last year (knowing and accepting that I probably would be waiting for several years before a release) today I would be trying the Francis Drake version for a few laughs and facepalms and surely uninstalling it after 3-4 hours tops.

Now we'll have to see how dedicated they are fixing the game post-launch.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 22:56    Post subject:
Not feeling too emphatic Mobster with a Fag
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Nov 2024 23:21    Post subject:
FYI... There's a couple of interesting mods on GAMMA's oficial Discord like nerfed healing and food items, sprint adjustments and even some NPC or A-Life WIP mods, just head to the #stalker2-modding sub-channel and there are some useful stuff posted there


After trying several of the "optimized tweaks" on nexus (thanks for the tip again @harry_theone), this is the one that I've found that works better on my setup so far, as most of them I've found worse performance and general resource usage, and bugs like invisible anomalies

STK2 - SPF
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/9?tab=description


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 00:07    Post subject:
Un_Forastero wrote:
FYI... There's a couple of interesting mods on GAMMA's oficial Discord like nerfed healing and food items, sprint adjustments and even some NPC or A-Life WIP mods, just head to the #stalker2-modding sub-channel and there are some useful stuff posted there


This is great news, 1 day later and such small things already steer it in a better direction

HubU wrote:
There is NO WAY that being playtested, those glaring issues weren't brought up.


No doubt. I'd bet my life savings that the developers were crying when they were told it had to make a 2024 release in this state.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 00:24    Post subject:
so it's cyberpunk all over again, what a shame and i'm at 89.98%


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sip74




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 01:00    Post subject:
EyePatchLives wrote:
Performance isn't great but the thing I find annoying the most is the visuals. Lighting and reflections are borked; there's a messy look to it that makes it difficult to see enemies.


The visuals are a letdown but i'm not surprised cause at heart this is a console game. The UI, lighting, muddy foliage and textures, it all screams console.

For a 2024 game indoors look terrible imo, lowres assets and flat lighting everywhere, it's extremely disappointing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 01:01    Post subject:
Un_Forastero wrote:
FYI... There's a couple of interesting mods on GAMMA's oficial Discord like nerfed healing and food items, sprint adjustments and even some NPC or A-Life WIP mods, just head to the #stalker2-modding sub-channel and there are some useful stuff posted there


After trying several of the "optimized tweaks" on nexus (thanks for the tip again @harry_theone), this is the one that I've found that works better on my setup so far, as most of them I've found worse performance and general resource usage, and bugs like invisible anomalies

STK2 - SPF
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/9?tab=description


Wow, what a difference to the feel of the game that mod has done. It's taken away all of the mouse lag and improved the smoothness of the game for me. Now I'm able to play it smoothly. Gold star to the mod creator and you for posting it on here Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 01:01    Post subject:
Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 03:05    Post subject:
I won't touch this game until the big issues have been fixed and deconsoleified. 2026?


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 03:53    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/1JYzOlC.mp4


https://i.imgur.com/hqTNTAG.mp4

To be fair though I've seen this happening (although not as blatantly) in GAMMA too.
It's just that STALKER DNA I guess Laughing


fuckin trash. the enemies teleporting on you, the console UI and the cringe talking protagonist is gonna be a no from me dawg
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 07:23    Post subject:
At least it seems to be highly moddable which means we'll see a ton of mods coming up that will fix a lot of the issues with UI, game scripting (A-life) etc. etc.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 08:39    Post subject:
yep, and they've promised mod tools, i hope that's not just talk.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 09:52    Post subject:
Unreal moddable? Surprised
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 10:05    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Unreal moddable? Surprised


Yea, it's unreal, right?


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sip74




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 11:53    Post subject:
Interesting discussion about A-life or rather the lack of it. The more i see of this the more i'm convinced it actually does not exist as we know it.

Rather than an organic world we get a bubble in which enemies spawn, obviously that bubble is not working properly as enemies can spawn right in front of you but if this is their modern take on A-life which it appears to be then rip stalker.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1gx1sds/i_have_tested_alife_20_for_10_hours_straight_3/
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sip74




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 12:55    Post subject:
Hmmm.

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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 13:37    Post subject:
"That thing we advertised? Yeah, well, *might* happen in the future, and it's gonna be so cool, fam!"

What a cop out.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 13:38    Post subject:
A-life sounds like Half-Life from wish
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 14:29    Post subject:
I'm glad it's selling, glad it has positive reviews because that makes it more likely that we will see it getting support, i hope. A failed release, a release with mostly negative reviews is easier to abandon, i would think.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 14:42    Post subject:
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Tell me about it, it also released on Xbox Cloud and I haven't been able to play a proper MLB The Show match (awful lag) since Wednesday, right after release time.

I'm already thinking of buying my first game console in +30 years just to play my favorite sports simulation in peace and with great responsiveness Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 15:05    Post subject:
I'm reading through the subreddit and apparently they only removed mention of the A-Life 2.0 from the Steam page shortly before release and replaced it with something more generic.

That feels kinda dishonest to me, tbh.

"Both the A-Life sentence and the "Advanced artificial intelligence system" sentences coexisted from January 2024 to November 7th, 2024. Wayback Machine."

Two weeks before release they sneakily removed mention of A-Life 2.0. Laughing


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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2024 15:26    Post subject:
yeah, that's pretty rotten. but it's also rather typical shit. it's not like Bethesda hasn't done this numerous times, for example, or CDPR using footage of the better looking engine of Witcher 3 up until days before release.

Doesn't excuse it though.
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