Dragon Age: The Veilguard
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 11:58    Post subject:
It's ok, not an awful MMO grindfest like Inquisition. If there was no Taash i'd give it a 6.5/10.

The most annoying thing is that the companions will not fucking shut up. They comment on every single thing, If you read a note - the protagonist or one of your lackeys will narrate the same thing again as if you can't read.

Or the constant "where is everyone, it's a market fair day, they usually sell eggs and shit here. OMG it's so empty, what happened here". THE VILAGE IS FUCKING COVERED WITH BLIGHT AND CORPSES" it's a tad bit too late to mention the market.
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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 12:10    Post subject:
Yeah, the difference is that you could just avoid doing the mmo shit in Inquisition, and as bad as the writing and combat was in that, it was still better then this.

This game is so good, that even out of the minority of shit eaters that bought this game, only 10.5% finished it two weeks later, as seen by the fact that only that many got the Part 14: The Dread Wolf Rises achievement. Hell, less then half the people got halfway through. Yet somehow the game is "Mostly positive". Gee ... wonder how that happened, especially since when you search reviews by most helpful, you get almost all negative reviews.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 12:52    Post subject:
You seriously wanna play this gay fest?
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 13:08    Post subject:
Its free and i'm not one bit interested in having this disgusting game on my pc. Funny how it ended up being 10 times worse than i imagined earlier. Thats how it goes with a nutjob trans cunt at the helm i guess. Not really a guess as the trans character is really tge biggest issue that people complain about.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 13:14    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
It's ok, not an awful MMO grindfest like Inquisition. If there was no Taash i'd give it a 6.5/10.

The most annoying thing is that the companions will not fucking shut up. They comment on every single thing, If you read a note - the protagonist or one of your lackeys will narrate the same thing again as if you can't read.

Or the constant "where is everyone, it's a market fair day, they usually sell eggs and shit here. OMG it's so empty, what happened here". THE VILAGE IS FUCKING COVERED WITH BLIGHT AND CORPSES" it's a tad bit too late to mention the market.


Yeah, same. Playing it on a lower difficulty level, it's honestly not that bad. It's telling how most of the criticism involves a single character and its related cutscenes, and not much else. Compared to, say, SW Outlaws, where most of the critique came from actual bugs and gameplay.

And a lot of the other criticism turns out to be half truths or complete bullshit (like being forced to choose LGBTQ options with the mirror, or not being able to choose your companions before/during quests).


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pho08




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 13:25    Post subject:
it's funny how this thread made it to page 30 with 90% of ppl who have never played the game convincing themselves that it is worse than Hitler -- over and fucking over again. Laughing compensating much?
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lametta




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 13:58    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
it's funny how this thread made it to page 30 with 90% of ppl who have never played the game convincing themselves that it is worse than Hitler -- over and fucking over again. Laughing compensating much?

Well its not good either and there are alot of valid criticisms.
If From Soft or any other dev delivered such a half baked product for their huge franchises (after 10 years no less) it would get equal amounts of hate. The lgbtq stuff is just the cherry on the top.


Maybe it's just me but either people's standards have dropped or mine are too high.
e.g. I played and finished 40 games this year (new releases and old) and many of them wont go above an 8/10 or 8.5/10 for me and these are games that genuinely interested me.

The issue is if you accept mediocrity you end up with mamoth projects like starfield, dragon age veilguard that dont deliver. Why should e.g. Bethesda change the way they structure their games if it still turns a profit? People seem to buy it...
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pho08




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 14:24    Post subject:
as i said, this is no Dragon Age game akin to the first one. this is not a deep rpg.

in fact they probably should never have called it Dragon Age and saved themselves a lot of the current shit storm

way i see it most of the ppl shittalking are just disappointed that another one of their beloved franchises now caters to the fortnite-generation

on the other hand as a game this is not the worst thing to happen since ww2. it's an action game with rpg elements. if you can stomach that and enjoyed games like Fenyx rising which are shallow but at the same time accessible to play for an hour per session, then this one is okay.

(ofc you'd skip most of the dialogue and steer clear of the gender bullshit)
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 14:57    Post subject:
Can you just accept the fact you're having fun with a bad game? It's fine to enjoy shit, just don't try and tell everyone it's chocolate.

People have dropped their standards so fucking much that I don't even know how you're supposed to rate a good game. What am I supposed to give something like RDR2? A 20? If this pos is considered average to good.

RDR 2 is my favorite game in the past 6-10 years or so, and I wouldn't give that more then a 9 at best. What am I supposed to say about this? it's not even half the game RDR2 is, so it's not even a 4 to me. There is nothing good about it, and the most important aspects to its genre are absolute shit.

You say this shouldn't have been called DA, but if it wasn't it would have sold like Dustborn.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 15:18    Post subject:
Laughing
i give up

if you're trying to compare this to RDR2 (w/o even having played it i suppose) then you clearly did not read what i wrote

deal with it, you're old. you're not the most relevant target group anymore for "AAA" gaming
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 15:27    Post subject:
I'm not comparing this to RDR2, not directly, I'm just saying that is the peak game in the past 6 years to me as reference.

Space Marines 2 is my favorite game this year and it's like a 7, maybe a 7.5 if I'm feeling insanely generous.

A 5 would be an average game, and I do not play average games unless it's some genre/world I love/have a soft spot for and there's very/few games of that type.

This is at most a 4/10, and really if you're a 4 or lower, it doesn't even matter which number you are cause I'll never play you. I'm not a teen anymore to play every pile of shit I come across. I don't know that I would play this even then.

You say I'm not a relevant target group for AAA. But who is then? Cause it's a year of flops with concord and this and SW Outlaws like ... I don't know, I feel like AAA doesn't know who its target is anymore, and not the other way around.


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pho08




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 15:40    Post subject:
that's good for you mate!

but even for a 4/10 game it makes me wonder why this gets dragged up every other day to reassert and reassure everyone that it's the worst thing to happen to gaming... you'd guess by now everyone has made up their mind (having played it or not) and moved on

and looking at steamdb this still sits at ~7.2/10 approval so most ppl who have actually played it seem to get 'some' enjoyment out of it?
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 15:54    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
that's good for you mate!

but even for a 4/10 game it makes me wonder why this gets dragged up every other day to reassert and reassure everyone that it's the worst thing to happen to gaming... you'd guess by now everyone has made up their mind (having played it or not) and moved on

and looking at steamdb this still sits at ~7.2/10 approval so most ppl who have actually played it seem to get 'some' enjoyment out of it?

for the size of the franchise etc it did poorly tbh
Compare more complex games that "cater" less to the fortnite audience like bg 3 it didnt do that good at all.

Was it the worst selling game ever? of course not
It might even have turned a profit if probably not for the troubled and long dev cycle

Time will tell i guess
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 16:09    Post subject:
that was actually pretty awesome Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 16:23    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
you're not the most relevant target group anymore for "AAA" gaming




...

Alas, truer and sadder words have never been spoken on this forum before. Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 16:33    Post subject:
I’m willing to give the game a go to make up my own mind about it but I can wait for it to be on sale or free Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 16:55    Post subject:
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I’m willing to give the game a go to make up my own mind about it but I can wait for it to be on sale or free Very Happy

so my perfidious plan that i had all along worked again
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 19:02    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
Laughing

deal with it, you're old. you're not the most relevant target group anymore for "AAA" gaming










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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 21:37    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
it's funny how this thread made it to page 30 with 90% of ppl who have never played the game convincing themselves that it is worse than Hitler -- over and fucking over again. Laughing compensating much?


I actually played the game for a couple of hours.

Gameplay is bad. There is no RPG or character building element to it. Not really. Combat is the same at level 1 and 15. No progression. No feeling of progression. Zero tactics required

And they completely messed the aesthetics of the game up, everything is visual clutter, opponents are not readable, it is a dodge-fest meta.

But that is not the worst thing. The worst thing is the writing - and I haven't unlocked the trans character yet. Writing is tired Marvel banter level. Cringe. Juvenile. This would be poor even for a fanfic.

ALL positive reviews are either bought or woke. I am 100% convinced. This is not a 9 game. This is a 4 game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 22:27    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
I’m willing to give the game a go to make up my own mind about it but I can wait for it to be on sale or free Very Happy

There's no drm, so apart from the huge download, nothing's stopping you Very Happy I am curious about what you will think of the game, having read and seen all about it, as (to me at least) there's a huge gap with reality Laughing But going in with 0 expectation helps too. And playing it as a GoW-like action game, not an rpg.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2024 09:16    Post subject:
Too much fucking drama, man...

Yea, it's shit game, we qq-ed and whined about it, but let it fucking go and move on!

This game doesn't deserve even this much negative attention! Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2024 09:22    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
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This game doesn't deserve even this much negative attention! Rolling Eyes


But utub needs clicks.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2024 10:20    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:


This game doesn't deserve even this much negative attention! Rolling Eyes


It deserves to be shat on again and again!
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2024 10:22    Post subject:
A-A wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:


This game doesn't deserve even this much negative attention! Rolling Eyes


It deserves to be shat on again and again!


Yes, but it doesn't need the attention, negative or otherwise. Let it die quietly and take Biowere with it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2024 11:29    Post subject:
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