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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2024 14:18    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
Il_Padrino wrote:

Apart from characters and dialogs, worst thing so far is the performance. Especially after moving between worlds, FPS starts tanking and doesn't recover until the game is restarted.

weird i don't have that problem. performance is stellar on 4070s ti

Yeah, my 2080 is getting old. I'm hitting the vram limit pretty quickly. Doesn't help that I'm playing with all graphics cranked to max. Laughing But as rebooting the game helps fps (until I move to another world), there is room for optimization.


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2024 14:19    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
I read that it was once supposed to be a multiplayer game and remnants of that still permeate some of the gameplay and level design. Is it noticeable?

Yeah, level design is really Mind Is Full Of Fuck


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2024 21:40    Post subject:
The more opened maps are designed quite well imo, and with that comes what's worth even more noticing is that exploration is exceptionally good, best part of the game.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2024 21:47    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
pho08 wrote:
Il_Padrino wrote:

Apart from characters and dialogs, worst thing so far is the performance. Especially after moving between worlds, FPS starts tanking and doesn't recover until the game is restarted.

weird i don't have that problem. performance is stellar on 4070s ti

Yeah, my 2080 is getting old. I'm hitting the vram limit pretty quickly. Doesn't help that I'm playing with all graphics cranked to max. Laughing But as rebooting the game helps fps (until I move to another world), there is room for optimization.


I never played the game but from my experience the only different you'll notice between ultra & high is tanking framerates, visually, they're pretty similar.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2024 23:59    Post subject:
Is there a bigger difference in classes later in the game? I started with a mage, but didn't like how he played. So I restarted as a fighter, and there wasn't much of a difference. It seems everyone has a ranged option, everyone can do close up, dashes, parries, just in a different flavour.

I usually play casters in rpgs as they offer more strategic approach to battles, but this one is more of an action rpgs. I'd still go with mage, if it offered more depth later.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 01:41    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
Is there a bigger difference in classes later in the game? I started with a mage, but didn't like how he played. So I restarted as a fighter, and there wasn't much of a difference. It seems everyone has a ranged option, everyone can do close up, dashes, parries, just in a different flavour.

I usually play casters in rpgs as they offer more strategic approach to battles, but this one is more of an action rpgs. I'd still go with mage, if it offered more depth later.


If DA2 or Inquisition is anything to go by then no, they will all feel the same. Shit combat system.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 06:18    Post subject:
Inquisition had you transition to advanced class so i cant say that was very simple. Was like the first game i played with high risk and reward style as i took damage from attacking.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 06:58    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Inquisition had you transition to advanced class so i cant say that was very simple. Was like the first game i played with high risk and reward style as i took damage from attacking.


I'm level 27ish on my mage, who I specialized as a Mournwatcher (Necromancer without summons basically), and all I really got was a different Ultimate and 2 new spells. Combat feels exactly the same as it did hour one.

Being limited to just 3 skills (and 2 companion skills due to global cooldown) really fucking gimps the feel of the combat. Don't even get me started on the generic ass equipment stats and "enchantments".

Of the three prior titles, I'd say this one has the worst combat to date. Sure it's fast and flashy, but it plays like shit and leaves little (basically no) room for anything to feel different from any other thing.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 18:28    Post subject:
Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 18:52    Post subject:
If you thought the dialogue was bad, then there is the Codex entries Laughing




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 19:22    Post subject:
Wth lol... so Tumblr entries are now Codex material Laughing Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 19:25    Post subject:
All we ever wanted was dragons, wizards n shieeeet.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 19:29    Post subject:
Garbage writing.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 19:37    Post subject:
Who was surprised with a frankenstein monster as the director
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 19:45    Post subject:
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You're heccin valid!

Pure cancer Laughing
BTW, can you even tell the troon to piss off? Read that either you can't (dunno if it's just the troon) or that if you do there are then areas that are locked because you didn't accept that companion to join your party.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 19:57    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
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You're heccin valid!

Pure cancer Laughing
BTW, can you even tell the troon to piss off? Read that either you can't (dunno if it's just the troon) or that if you do there are then areas that are locked because you didn't accept that companion to join your party.


I asked and apparently you cannot perma remove companions from your party. You get to choose who goes with you on a mission, and some missions require some companions.

That being said I didn't waste the 77GB fitgirl repackshit space/time to find out.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 20:31    Post subject:



Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 20:37    Post subject:
You see that cretin everywhere and yes, it's a disgusting freak. But how much screentime does that monster take if you go for minimal? Is it like the bull for inquisition?
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 21:16    Post subject:
Jesus that looks bad, what is wrong with world these days.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 22:06    Post subject:
Escapism in games? Not on our watch

The funny part is, for all the memes it generated, suddenly even a byproduct of the Biodecline like Inquisition doesn't seem too insulting in comparison. Although the writing suffered from formulaic tropes and cringey moments, the Iron Bull himself for instance was a thorough character with a distinct and witty sense of humour that never ventured into Marvel-ian sewage. You still pressed awesome buttons while tackling dull quests, but at least the dialogues allowed for some Renegade-isms and the whole thing didn't feel like My First 50 Shades of Fabulous Purple from Deever City.

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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Nov 2024 22:51    Post subject:


hahaha
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Laughing is what they would've have done to this in the third reich and in the 1950's.

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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 12:41    Post subject:
Having just completed the first act, the game (so far) is far from garbage. Apart from the writing/dialogs, it's actually pretty good.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 13:20    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Having just completed the first act, the game (so far) is far from garbage. Apart from the writing/dialogs, it's actually pretty good.



Writing/dialogue is one major reason for me to play a game like this, so I'm not going to waste any time. Besides, I still haven't really started BG3 for some reason (The reason being Satisfactory eating up all my gaming time.).

Good on you, if you enjoy the game. Cheers!


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 13:38    Post subject:
Absolutely, but as I don't really care too much for the world, most of the story related dialogs are good enough (and not that different than the writing in bg3, tbf). Once you dive a bit deeper, with romance and the likes, the cringe sets in quickly, but those are optional anyway.

Exploration is indeed the best part. While the level design is confusing as fuck, you always get rewarded with something (albeit small) when going off the path or jumping on rooftops.

I'm also playing on the 2nd easiest level (between easiest and medium) as I heard prior about spongy enemies and combat getting boring quickly. This seems to help with some of the pacing.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 14:04    Post subject:
same here

i only get to play about an hour per day nowadays and if you play this as a simple action-(rpg) then it is decent for the most part

also 4ish hours in and the woke-pocalypse hasn't been shoved in my face but tbh i semi-skip most of the dialogue Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 15:33    Post subject:
At the start of act 2, the mission to recruit Taash opens. I went with the other one, for now Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 15:45    Post subject:
The best writing it has being on par with BG3 is not the endorsement you think it is. BG3's writing is terrible.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 16:06    Post subject:
I wasn't endorsing it either. More like showing the hypocrisy about the writing in this, when BG3 ain't much better and is considered the best rpg since jesus.


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