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couleur
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 16:02    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Iwasfaggotonce wrote:
I'm not saying totally abolishing all the rules and/or frameworks how to conduct business.

United States is a good example, it doesn't have many of these over-regulating rules and laws that the EU does and is pushing for more. And it is lightyears ahead in terms of innovation and the place where things happen compared to stagnating EU. USA does have its own stupid regulations in some other fields, sure.


Yes, USA it's a good example, the number of billionaires has increased hundredfold while the general people are doing far from great. Let's imitate that because "mah market freedom".


Some people just live under the constant illusion that they could, one day, live like billionaires and thus suck up to the billionaire caste and defend them against their own best interests.

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 16:24    Post subject:
and don't forget trickle-down economics: surely if there's more billionaires, the small folk will profit as well... any moment now!
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Iwasfaggotonce




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 16:31    Post subject:
When bunch of leftists open their wings here Laughing Laughing Laughing

Also “sucking up to billionaires”? Like middle school level of debate lmfao
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 17:44    Post subject:
Iwasfaggotonce wrote:
When bunch of leftists open their wings here Laughing Laughing Laughing

Also “sucking up to billionaires”? Like middle school level of debate lmfao



I'm not debating you. That would be pretty useless after all these years.

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 17:53    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Iwasfaggotonce wrote:
When bunch of leftists open their wings here Laughing Laughing Laughing

Also “sucking up to billionaires”? Like middle school level of debate lmfao


What does anything we've said have to do with "leftists"?


Because people with right leaning economic view don't go humping and trashing "teh billionaires". If sucking up to a billionaire is not straight insinuation of it, then i apology. But it is Laughing

I don't care when millionaires and/or billionaires make more money. Fine. They put big chunk of it back to the economy, whether it is giving work or (in)direct taxes. We should embrace capitalism (even with all its flaws), not bash it.

And historical data shows that while it is true that the rich have become richer over the past 30+ years or so, the middle class have become richer too. Only that the very affluent have become more richer faster. But that's just a side effect to how this model works.

Look when i was 18 or 19, i too was having these anti-capitalist sentiments. On one hand because it was a trendy thing to do, and on the other hand because i wasn't fully developed yet mentally Laughing, i depended on my parents in big part; I didn't understand the meaning of hard work and eventually entrepreneurship

So yeah if you want to be Bernie LET'S DESTROY PRIVATE HEALTHCARE, LET'S MAKE ALL THE COMPANIES OFFER UNIONS AS A LAW, LET'S TRANSFER 60% OF THE WORKFORCE TO THE PUBLIC SECTOR (these were actually berniebro's election points on his website back in 2016 Laughing )
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 19:23    Post subject:
Being for certain regulations does not equal to being anti-capitalist at all. But the US is not a well functioning society because it is less regulated.

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Photish




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 21:17    Post subject:
Being against regulations and laws that is there to protect its citizens, is something I dont understand. Like being against paying taxes.

Everywhere in the world there are less intelligent laws - This is not one of them.

I would recommend everyone to refresh their knowledge about the philosophy of capitalism in relation to economic growth. There is a reason its not called wealthism. Yuval Noah Harari - Sapiens is a easy read and touches on this very subject.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 21:29    Post subject:
Who is this guy? I assume it's the smurf account of an older user.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 22:22    Post subject:
Just eat your poisonous food and buy your cursed incendiary grenade appliances, I HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR MONEY!
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2024 22:41    Post subject:
This is a good thing.

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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Iwasfaggotonce




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2024 07:54    Post subject:
Macron makes good points. EU is stagnating and on the road to be a third hand player compared to other big markets in the future.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-02/macron-warns-that-eu-needs-radical-change-is-lagging-china-us
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2024 08:15    Post subject:
Iwasfaggotonce wrote:
Macron makes good points. EU is stagnating and on the road to be a third hand player compared to other big markets in the future.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-02/macron-warns-that-eu-needs-radical-change-is-lagging-china-us


In short the frogs need money cause the goverment is on a spending spree:
and Europe won’t be able to compete with other countries unless it moves quickly to complete a banking union and make global trade rules more fair.

So they want other nations to back their loans. Viva le EU, France and Germany decide, for the rest fuck you.
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