The Boys (Series, Amazon, 2019–)
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jackbomb




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 14:02    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp5rtSOdN4M


Men, this is great. I don't know about you, but I for one am enjoying the satyrical and unapologetic style of everything that The Boys represent and present to viewers. I'm not touching the tight plot points or the character arcs, even less to compare with other all-time great TV mammoths; this is a debate for other times. Now I know for certain that we're in a time where this kind of stuff is possible, it's happening, and i'm the merrier for it. We'll miss it.
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 15:57    Post subject:
The meta stuff is really good, better than the actual show Very Happy




Also very on point, with many celebrities currently having their shampoo line (even Dwayne Johnson Laughing )



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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 17:06    Post subject:
jackbomb wrote:
4treyu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp5rtSOdN4M


Men, this is great. I don't know about you, but I for one am enjoying the satyrical and unapologetic style of everything that The Boys represent and present to viewers. I'm not touching the tight plot points or the character arcs, even less to compare with other all-time great TV mammoths; this is a debate for other times. Now I know for certain that we're in a time where this kind of stuff is possible, it's happening, and i'm the merrier for it. We'll miss it.


The fucking comments are legendary Laughing
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 01:25    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
You fucks liked Fallout but with The Boys you all are suddenly a kino connaisseurs
Enjoy your farting in chocolate cake!


Whats the main difference between fallout S01 and the boys S04. Don't think too long. First thing that comes to mind really
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 06:36    Post subject:
Nothing really. Fallout has shit writting, this at least has great acting with Homie and Butcher. Both are entertaining if you squint your eyes and muffle your ears.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 08:08    Post subject:
So you believe a completely new show would be held at the same standard as a slowly declining show on season 4?
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 09:36    Post subject:
The Boys took massive decline in season 2. But it was a couple of years ago and people don't really remember what happened in season 3. Every season Boys reinvent itself because they don't really know what they want the show to be about.

The original work was just Garth Ennis disdain for superheroes, especially for american ones. He deconstructed them by asking the question what would be if superheroes were people with regular fuck up human psyche - and answering - most would be fuck ups.

The show heavily deviated from it. First season had most common points with the comic book. The sups are really a menace and government needs to have a way to control them.

The season 2 made a new plot by Homelander creating super villains to make sups important and militarized and make use of them in miliatry operations and make V powered soldiers.

Season 3 drops it and even shows us in retrospect that the government tried to use sups as soldiers before with Soldier Boy and co. making whole season 2 a moot point. We now veer off to bad parents, parenthood and most of the season is about how bad fathers influence their sons. This is now what the show is about. With a bit of drops about politics and far-right.

Season 4 has bits of the parenthood struggle from season 3 but steers more into far-right politics being bad and corpos being bad and how corrupt the US government is - but mostly republicans.

In the mean time - everything the Boys (the group not the show) do is futile, there is really no progress with anything they do. They even disband and assemble every season, not to mention the whole background of the group is not even really well written. Who sponsors them, who employes Butcher etc. They had leverage in the comic book, here they should have been wiped out in a second by B-tier superhero.

As goes for Fallout it has utterly bad writing too, in season one but no one bats an eye. Both shows have entertaining value. Fallout by being something so bad it's funny, The Boys with how far they can go with violence and shock value.

Yet both shows are really bad/meh when it comes to writing.
And also what's the difference between the Fallout and The Boys - is Fallout is more known IP here on the forum while The Boys only comic book fags might now. So people are more lenient when it comes to the Fallout tv series because nostalgia and fandom.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 09:50    Post subject:
Pretty well written about the boys. Just that S04 is more far left in my eyes. How the right looks trough the lens of a left leaning activist.

Anyway, people are just gonna be more lenient towards something new that is fun. The boys is like Bioware. People expect something, but get more disappointed every game, which is gonna multiply annoyance due to how good it was in season 1, and 2 actually.
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|DXWarlock




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 13:32    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
The Boys only comic book fags might now.

Are you saying that people that like comics enjoy sucking dick, or that sucking dick makes you enjoy comics?
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 13:45    Post subject:
|DXWarlock wrote:
VonMisk wrote:
The Boys only comic book fags might now.

Are you saying that people that like comics enjoy sucking dick, or that sucking dick makes you enjoy comics?

Both!


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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 17:58    Post subject:
So next episode is the last one of the season and so far it seems we may get some progress by the end of next season.
I understand business and keeping people employed but it is sad when it comes at the cost of hard hitting art turning into a very very dead horse.

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raven_g20




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 18:21    Post subject:
Isn't season 5 the last? At least I hope it's true because it got bad and they really need to end it now.


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jackbomb




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 18:22    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
Isn't season 5 the last? At least I hope it's true because it got bad and they really need to end it now.


Yup, it is. Kripke said as much since the beginning apparently. 5 seasons and they're done.
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 19:24    Post subject:
Like with Supernatural? Kripke wanted 5, done 5 than new showrunner came and it crawl for another 12 seasons Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 19:49    Post subject:
Laughing Laughing Laughing


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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 19:50    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
Like with Supernatural? Kripke wanted 5, done 5 than new showrunner came and it crawl for another 12 seasons Wink


Honestly I'm feeling like it might be the case for this show too since it is very successful and they would rather milk lightning than wait for it to strike twice.
I stopped watching supernatural, TWD etc for the sole reason that they just dragged on forever and became less and less exciting to watch and more of a snoozefest.

This show isn't there yet, there's still some interesting plot points, but they save those as snippets inbetween a great majority of out of nowhere uninteresting personal melodrama and that is a common sign that a show is running out of ideas/filling running time with whatever's off the top of their heads.

I really hope it ends next season because so far this season nothing really major happened and we've only got one episode left.
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 19:55    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
TWD etc for the sole reason that they just dragged on forever and became less and less exciting to watch and more of a snoozefest.

My wife loved that show. I watched 4-5 random, not in order episodes by happening to be there when she was.
I got the jist of it all it seems in those: People somewhere trying to survive and be not noticed -> One of theirs/someone else up to 1/2 way into air time of the episode, accidentally draws zombie notice -> Fight zombies that was attracted while complaining someone stirred them up all while trying not to die -> repeat next episode. Laughing
or at least thats all I got out of it. Every episode is that, with some ongoing reality TV like drama plot arc wrapped around it.
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 20:11    Post subject:
Season ends in a week. Most plot points went nowhere. Frenchie and his redemtion story - moot, Kimiko get some more backstory but it was really meh, we got a fight between the Boys and Deep and Noir 2 - it went nowhere. Fuck they even knew where their HQ was. The fight was something for the ultrafanbois to fap to. Homelander could've found them in half an hour and killed them all. Also suddenly all sups are unkillable by regular weapons. The vicepresident knows the Boys want to kill her - nothing happens here. They probably got a biological weapon that could make Homelander hurt. But they could hurt him with temp V in season 3. At this moment I don't even care because there was no single scene in this season that would make Homelander menacing to the larger population, he just bullied his coworkers and Vaught employees.
Overall 7 hours and the plot didn't even move one bit.
It's Status Quo the series since season 2.

I can imagine that the virus will make him orange and shit his pants while mumbling nonsense where it's is going right now.

At least the comic book had some twist in the end but they fumbled it with Black Noir being some random dude.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 21:33    Post subject:
shit must be bad cause they cranking the instagram promotion vids full bore

like this is like the third vaught infomercial i saw on insta by now , but they are kinda good Laughing
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jul 2024 22:12    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
Like with Supernatural? Kripke wanted 5, done 5 than new showrunner came and it crawl for another 12 seasons Wink


I hoped they did another 15 seasons.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jul 2024 08:54    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jul 2024 09:09    Post subject:
I watched trailer for the last episode and they apparently disbanded the Boys once again, just as I wrote earlier Aww Yeah


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jul 2024 18:50    Post subject:
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jul 2024 02:26    Post subject:
Pretty much and it felt like where we should've been at least on episode 4. I hope the next season will indeed be the last one and we won't have to wait another 2-3yrs for it.

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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jul 2024 12:33    Post subject:
I've finally caught up with the capeBoys' latest shenanigans, brainless entertainment was had as usual albeit S04 indeed felt way more filler-y than necessary with satire as subtle as an anvil dropped on the viewer's head and side plots that made the show lose momentum. Once again, the hilariously random acts of violence, the Homelander-isms and Butcher's new development made things interesting, with a pretty solid final episode to save an otherwise hollow season. Here's hoping S05 will continue from there by giving the show a memorable ending.
Props to Firecracker as well, I wasn't expecting the android's new ̶m̶.̶a̶.̶g̶.̶o̶.̶a̶. m.i.l.k. revision to have such a strong FHITB aura Focused
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jul 2024 17:21    Post subject:
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Did I miss something or firecracker story got jumbled at the end? She was coming down with a serious illness. Could have been some version of the antisupe virus, or something, yet in the finale we hear her TV speech where she looks fine.

And Ashley having jabbed herself with the supifying serum didn't have her happy ending on-screen too.

If these two events were supposed to be parts of the cliffhanger to the fifth season, they were not presented as such.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jul 2024 22:00    Post subject:
This is a bad show. Sorry, but for S4 that is the truth. Plot was all over the place, but mostly nothing happened. No character arcs.

The only thing this show had was very cheap and boring shots at republicans. Meh.

Turned to uninteresting shit.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jul 2024 10:57    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jul 2024 11:10    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
Pretty much and it felt like where we should've been at least on episode 4. I hope the next season will indeed be the last one and we won't have to wait another 2-3yrs for it.

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Karl Urban has confirmed in an Instagram post that Amazon Prime Video’s “The Boys” won’t be returning for its fifth and final season until 2026.
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