Elden Ring (Miyazaki + George R.R. Martin)
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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2024 09:58    Post subject:
well 120 was way too low for the DLC, just had to take a peak Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2024 10:08    Post subject:
Yea, ng+ char on this was a bad idea. Gaius mofo is just killing me with two hits. Level 198 60 vigor, heavy armor and physical damage talisman and what not.
Have to respec now for some of the cheese tactics.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jul 2024 05:02    Post subject:
Is jump attacking really a thing in this game or not?

I've seen so many videos and read about it that its supposed to be super powerful, doing much more damage. I've never gotten it to work, in fact it does less damage.

i tried it at those sitting beings at Mohgwyn Palace:

Jump attack (using heavy, which is what you should use i've read): 1146 damage
regular heavy attack: 1511 damage
Ashes of war (lion's claw): 1816 damage

using +24 zweihander.

tried asking on reddit r/eldenring but in usual reddit fashion it seems like it was just auto deleted instantly.

maybe it's some button combo i just don't get.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jul 2024 06:10    Post subject:
Jump attack is great! I used it a lot with my dual greatswords, Jump+L1 to bonk enemies with both swords. Laughing And there are items like talisman and some armor which enhance jump attacks.
It's a good way to glose the gap to enemies and hit them while avoiding their AOE attacks.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jul 2024 06:23    Post subject:
Jump attacks are faster than regular heavy but does less damage, but more damage than light/fast attack. So it kind of makes sense, it's supposed to sit between those + better for evasion.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jul 2024 14:37    Post subject:
madness wrote:
Jump attack is great! I used it a lot with my dual greatswords, Jump+L1 to bonk enemies with both swords. Laughing And there are items like talisman and some armor which enhance jump attacks.
It's a good way to glose the gap to enemies and hit them while avoiding their AOE attacks.


It's really useful for dual wield builds with L1 attack, not so great for the rest.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2024 11:43    Post subject:
Btw, for those people on the yarr version like me: If you want the calibration updates (ok, maybe not the latest one Wink ), you can find them on your favourite russian counterstrike forum. It's only like 2 text files.


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2024 12:38    Post subject:
Whats wrong with the latest one?
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2024 15:23    Post subject:
first patch made it easier
second patch made some nerfs

so not too hard to figure out why one patch is liked and the other, maybe not so much.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2024 15:31    Post subject:
it was absolutely necessary... things like perfume bottle exploit et al were just broken

anyway, somehow they forgot to fix the most op thing, that is THORNS
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2024 19:51    Post subject:
I'm doing another more thorough playthrough with a fresh lvl 120 strength character, and I just beat divine beast at Scadutree lvl 3 in 6 attempts. They REALLY buffed the blessings. Laughing

Prelate's Crozier with Lion's Claw+buffs really hits hard. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 05:40    Post subject:
Leyndell Rolling Eyes god how i hate that place, fucking maze. not a well designed level imo. it absolutely has some cool stuff, but overall that place is a fucking drag to get through. the snowy place next up isn't that great either, super linear. hope the DLC is more of an open world experience.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 11:46    Post subject:
madness wrote:
https://x.com/SunhiLegend/status/1807843440429855008


Beautiful!

But still... it's probably a '100 fights later'... Cool Face


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 12:21    Post subject:
and a few lightyears away from the nearest pussy Laughing
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 14:19    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
madness wrote:
https://x.com/SunhiLegend/status/1807843440429855008


Beautiful!

But still... it's probably a '100 fights later'... Cool Face


or just Game Speed set to 25% via Elden Ring FPS unlocker...
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 16:32    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jul 2024 18:02    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
and a few lightyears away from the nearest pussy Laughing


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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 11:53    Post subject:
Some of the design choices are really bad or annoying.

Why cant you drop those colored stones to predict how you are going to fall. that would have been so helpful (and a cool secondary use for them) with the platforming parts.

Same stones could've been left even if you die or go to a site of grace i think. They can be really useful, but the usage is too limited since they'll easily disappear. Have a limit of 100 or so that can be in the world, so it doesn't bog down the game. would've been cool if you could throw them to predict a jump too. long press for lay down, short press to throw.

Lamp goes off every time you die. This doesn't add anything fun, its just an annoyance to have to remember to turn it on again. It's too game:y of a game to be something totally immersion breaking, the game is pretty much the opposite of an Immersive Sim, nobody would complain.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 12:38    Post subject:
that is really nitpicky and the first time ever I've seen anyone complain about that

and am I misunderstanding? you can drop those stones to predict if a fall is gonna kill you, if it arrives at the bottom it's fine, if it shatters you're gonna die
it's been a thing since dark souls, or demon's souls even? it never left


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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 13:03    Post subject:
nitpicky on the whole perhaps but it would make the game a bit more fun, especially since the platforming / jumping isn't that great, i mean you can tell it wasn't designed to be a platformer exactly.

yes, i never said you can't use the stones like that, i meant, since they're in the game, why not make use of them for predicting jumps (beyond you will survive/you will die). i have seen people complaining about the platforming. if you could use the stones to predict where you will land it could've saved people hours of frustration in the more difficult parts, like getting to Deeproot Depths from Mohg's room, there's a few others too, but not too many i guess that are that hard.

i can probably think of 10'ish other small things that are kind of annoying, while each might be a "nitpick" it does add up when you have a lot of small annoyances.

And yes i understand that the game has its fans (fanboys) who absolutely adores the game and the team so things like this are unlikely to ever get through to them, people are quick to defend the game and its designs, even when not perhaps great (or could be made better). their loss, imo..

And yeah i love the game too, doesn't mean it's perfect or couldn't (easily) be even better with rather tiny tweaks that likely wouldn't take much to implement.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 13:50    Post subject:
^ Yea, indeed, there's some... 'roughness' in the game. Starting from PC controls, abysmal camera with some bosses, and up to QOL things you described there...

But people just tend to adapt and give them a pass, due to other things they appreciate in the game.

Atmosphere, gameplay, lore, characters, quests... all these captured me and made me... 'ignore' such annoyances. But YES, despite everything good, these annoyances are still there.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 13:55    Post subject:
yeah, it's not so bad that i can't play it, far from it. but when a game is great i also tend to think of how great it truly could've been with some small fixes haha.

Too bad it's not as mod friendly as Bethesda's games, shit, we would never need to buy another game, basically Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 14:01    Post subject:
The best 'mod' that would exist for me is to make the game let me attack in the direction of the camera.

Sad

Just like in Enshrouded (which has an option / toggle for this)...

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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 14:10    Post subject:
right, never played a third person game where that was a thing (i think!), but i can understand how that would be cool..


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 14:25    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
right, never played a third person game where that was a thing (i think!), but i can understand how that would be cool..


Huh?

You are getting old, you... old man.

Games that do it right:

Rune
Gothic 1/2
Enclave
Die By The Sword
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy / Jedi Outcast
Max Payne 1&2
Giants: Citizen Kabuto
The Suffering
+ others
...

U diss-a-point?-me, old man!
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Consoles absolutely RUINED the third person camera in games. Removing back-pedalling and implementing this... shit, unrealistic, defective way of moving your character backwards...


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