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Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 17:38 Post subject: |
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My take on it, is it is just a book.
If it is banned because of content and fear of influencing people or that certain people may be easily influenced. When those same people's exposure to other media, other people, social interactions, and daily life interaction and opinions/conversations happen EVERY day.. A book is the least of your worries.
I feel no books should be banned anywhere. And anyone should be allowed to read it to see why it is banned. The saying is not "Everyone should read banned books" it's "They are the most worth reading" and worth reading is in the eye of the reader, as we both agree. Those that want to to see why its banned, should be able to. (the oxymoron/contradiction of that, is the point).
It is a dictatorial authoritative decision to decide what the public is allowed to read. Like banning gay books. If that child was 'turned gay' by that book. News flash, they was already gay and didn't realize what it was called/is.
And banning book because what it is..Say Mein Kampf? Why? Clearly it shouldn't be mandatory state reading. But to declare I am not allowed to? Why? Fear of influence? I stand by above. If someone is influenced by it. News flash, they already was primed for it, and didn't realize what it was/called/is.
For the food example: I'm not saying everyone should be forced to taste it, I'm saying that it should be free game for them to if they want to. And I would argue "Don't say you dont like it, until you taste it" applies wholly here.
Like my religious books statement. I didn't mean people should be forced to. I mean it would behoove society for them to.
And lets flip your food analogy: It's like with tastes. If someone doesn't like the taste of certain foods, doesn't mean no one should be able to taste those products.
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Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 17:57 Post subject: |
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@|DXWarlock
Life is too short and busy to think of some dumbass's likes or dislikes.
You got plenty of people you respect and their likes which you presumably haven't discovered for yourself. If you can keep up with that, you already filling your time quite to the rims.
I'm talking about I. Asimov quote about worthiness of a book defined by its ban history, not about phenomenon of books banning. Your food analogy changes the subject of the discussion.
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Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 18:05 Post subject: |
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If your life is too busy and short. Thats personal choice, not fact (well short maybe, but busy..that's choices you made that made it that way). My life is surprisingly not busy at all. And when it is, its fleeting spurts of time that are, not the norm.
To not care about other peoples like and dislikes, means I ignore anyone that doesn't agree with me as inconsequential. When they could happen to be very consequential to circles outside mine, that butterfly effect into mine. Even the most 'retarded' to you has power.
I mean look at the first image of this post. it's about people some think are those dumbasses, being important enough to ban, now. It's the whole crux of the banning situation. Now dumbass anti-woke is influencing the books we have access to. So yea..dumbasses are the MOST important to pay attention to.. Idiots in volume of numbers add up because people dismiss them as dumbasses, until there is a mob of dumbasses at the gate with torches and forks.
For only needing people you respect and like minded with: Why would I only hang out with, or talk to people I agree with? That sounds so boring and closed circle of nods of agreements. I prefer filling my time with both people I like and respect their opinions AND people that I disagree with. It's the main reason I goto the pub. For Old Man debates with the others that have totally different views from me that sometimes results in not respecting their opinions for emotional bursts of time (then we do again), as do they enjoy going for it to. (You never learn anything as new understanding for social/political, by only talking to those you agree with)
And I agree with Asimov, if it's been banned that much, obvious it is important enough by the cause of those banning it to see fit to. We are not making the worthiness of it by reading it, we are reacting to the noteworthiness they themselves created by seeing it so noteworthy to ban. IT had no worthiness until they gave it to it.
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Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 18:22 Post subject: |
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No one said you had to be, but to say others shouldn't be, or the statement is objectively false that people find them the most noteworthy, is just as authoritative as saying they cannot read them.
And what you mean by Kim Jong Un's dislikes? Not sure the reference.
Got info/links/direction to find on them? I (in real honestly) are interested in learning about them if that's a thing that can be consumed as information. (Or am I being a total dense idiot and missing a cheeky reference to something?)
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Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 19:10 Post subject: |
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Oh, I got ya.
I thought you meant something more obtuse or obscure about his personal dislikes/eclectic anachronistic practices he mandates around his personal life . His banlist and regulations I already have familiarity with.
Not sure if any valuable perspectives can be had off it. It's pretty boilerplate authoritative isolation of a nation checklist of things.
And not sure if I would consider NK a needle of interest on banned media, nor would Asimov I think. As its more in 'free' societies that which they ban has interest in what is so vile about it, a free nation would deem it an exception to the universal freedom all other media has.
In NK it's not an exception (exceptional) situation to ban, it's the exception for whats foreign and isn't banned that is exceptional. As in I would be more interested in reading what he hasn't banned, be it domestic or foreign, to see what it has that fits the illusion that makes it allowed and approved. To see what THOSE exceptions are (as the norm is to ban...and easy pattern of why concluded rather early into seeing what was).
So in NK what isnt banned, speaks more on Kim's mind, than what is.
As it's inverse of normal: Normally not banned, with rare banned. So what hints of why it was are present?
There is normally banned, So what hints of why it wasn't are present?
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