Dune [reboot / dir: Denis Villeneuve / 2021]
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Feb 2024 23:49    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:


damn sounds so fucking epic


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Hans Zimmer – Dune: Part Two (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (2024)

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Tracklist:
01 - Beginnings Are Such Delicate Times
02 - Eclipse
03 - The Sietch
04 - Water of Life
05 - A Time of Quiet Between the Storms
06 - Harvester Attack
07 - Worm Ride
08 - Ornithopter Attack
09 - Each Man Is a Little War
10 - Harkonnen Arena
11 - Spice
12 - Seduction
13 - Never Lose Me
14 - Travel South
15 - Paul Drinks
16 - Resurrection
17 - Arrival
18 - Southern Messiah
19 - The Emperor
20 - Worm Army
21 - Gurney Battle
22 - You Fought Well
23 - Kiss the Ring
24 - Only I Will Remain
25 - Lisan al Gaib

Release Name: Hans Zimmer – Dune: Part Two (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (2024)
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Feb 2024 17:35    Post subject:
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Why the fuck is that asshole making a face in the thumbnail? And why the fuck post it here?


that asshole is probably one of the few remaining utub "reviewers" that hasnt gone the woke path, that reviews a movie like it is, unlike chris cuckman that sold his soul for a chance to suck hollywoods cock, that couldnt review probably one of the worst movies of the year because criticism is bad now cuz he is a filmaker now and knows a thing or two so u cant hurt peoples feelings...

absolutely the most retarded shit ive heard in a while in this utub space.

cant wait to see his film this fall, if its shit then imagine the shitshow


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Feb 2024 12:16    Post subject:
Few camera versions are floating around from yesterday.

If you wanna preview the movie. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 19:23    Post subject:
Loved it in IMAX!

But...
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Mar 2024 11:21    Post subject:
I noticed the term "Jihad" completely dropped from the movies, also I think the Emperor name, which is "Shaddam" never mentioned by full name either, only refred to as "the Emperor", but I could be wrong about this.

Being fair, Dune was written when Islamic terroism was less common/talked about, also "Shaddam" doesn't sound good either.

Dune is obviously still heavily influenced by islam(and other religion but it is less noticeable).
Looks like Dune: Messiah adaptation is in works, it will probably be named "Dune: Part 3", cuz The book is around 3rd to half the length of the original book and feels more like an epilogue to Dune than a full blown sequel, It feels to me that Frank Herbert
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which already implied to happen in the movie.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Mar 2024 11:45    Post subject:
it's in dune part 1 (watched it a week ago) when the herald brings the message
he's like

by the grace of shaddam the 4th of house corrino, padishah emperor of the known universe...


jihad, yeah, they just call it "holy war" I think that's fair, since either jihad or crusade, people would complain that it criticizes one religion and not another.


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Apr 2024 21:37    Post subject:
Dune 2 was good. Really good. I enjoyed the first, but wasn't crazy about it. Dune 2 is really good.

The change to Chani from the books is the only mistake they made. Original was better.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Apr 2024 22:25    Post subject:
Chani is going to ruin the third if they don't revert it. Now i haven't read the books but you don't have to be a scientist to know how she's changed.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Apr 2024 00:08    Post subject:
Oh god... did they girlboss'ed Chani? If so suddenly I'm not looking forward that much for the ISODEMO release


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Apr 2024 10:06    Post subject:
Dune Messiah is well known to be the most Controversial book in the series.. IMO the movie adaptation of it going to be a lot different than the original book, the core story will probably be the same tough..


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 00:04    Post subject:
A proper 1080p WEB-DL (no subs though) is now available. Going to wait for 4K HDR, seems like the movie for that.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 08:30    Post subject:
Good, I want to re watch some of it's scenes.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 11:46    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
Dune Messiah is well known to be the most Controversial book in the series.. IMO the movie adaptation of it going to be a lot different than the original book, the core story will probably be the same tough..

Is it? I thought the ones coming after, with the god emperor or Duncan's magic penis are much more controversial. The 3rd book is more like a proper ending or final missing chapter of the first 2.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 11:56    Post subject:
Baguette wrote:
A proper 1080p WEB-DL (no subs though) is now available. Going to wait for 4K HDR, seems like the movie for that.
Noice. I'll wait a little more for some subs, though


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 14:29    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Baguette wrote:
A proper 1080p WEB-DL (no subs though) is now available. Going to wait for 4K HDR, seems like the movie for that.
Noice. I'll wait a little more for some subs, though


https://subscene.com/subtitles/dune-part-two


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 15:24    Post subject:
8 days to normal release, I'll await the 4K Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 15:29    Post subject:
5/10 for me, i much preferred the 80's one.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 20:05    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Chani is going to ruin the third if they don't revert it. Now i haven't read the books but you don't have to be a scientist to know how she's changed.


I have read the books, and my problem with Chani is not just the fact they changed he from the books.

Overall Dune 2 is an excellent adaptation. And the change to Chani was not for woke reasons. So I don't want to bring politics in to it.

They changed it to make it EVEN more clear Paul is not a messiah - and that was not needed, they should have trusted the intellect of their audience more.

My problem with the change is - you can't actually be in love with someone your rebel against and are skeptical of. It is either or. And this part was not logical.

I would have liked some more dialogue and depth (like the books had), but compressing all of that in a movie that works deserves applause.

Good sci-fi is very, very rare (I mean people consider three body trash good - when it is teenage melodrama trash). So I am very grateful for this movie. Will go see it again.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Apr 2024 20:08    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Oh god... did they girlboss'ed Chani? If so suddenly I'm not looking forward that much for the ISODEMO release


No no. Not girlboss.

She is a skeptic of Paul (which imho doesn't work well with her being totally in love with him and all). And this means the romance angle doesn't work that well.

Lady Jessica is a "girlboss" (kind of the genesis of the story to be honest), but not woke in the slightest. Using girlboss jokingly only. She is a major character, a power player.

Look. This is a good movie. As non woke as you can get today.

Also, I don't frequent cinemas at all anymore (IMAX in Budapest is utter shit), but there is a new cinema in the city with 4k laser projector and pretty high luminance (but not HDR contrast).

I do suggest you see it in cinemas. It deserves the praise.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Apr 2024 01:49    Post subject:
So much religious magic BS, and it switched directions a couple of times on top. That and it moves so slowly, they had all this time to make me care about these people, and I still didn't care about them by the end of the film.

It felt like watching a Koran audiobook or something. I've not read the F.Herbert book so i don't know if its that the source material that doesn't do it for me, or this version of that story, doesn't do it for me.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Apr 2024 11:21    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
So much religious magic BS, and it switched directions a couple of times on top. That and it moves so slowly, they had all this time to make me care about these people, and I still didn't care about them by the end of the film.

It felt like watching a Koran audiobook or something. I've not read the F.Herbert book so i don't know if its that the source material that doesn't do it for me, or this version of that story, doesn't do it for me.


The books are good. There is simply a fuckton happening in them. It is also nuanced and detail heavy.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2024 23:47    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Chani is going to ruin the third if they don't revert it. Now i haven't read the books but you don't have to be a scientist to know how she's changed.


I have read the books, and my problem with Chani is not just the fact they changed he from the books.

Overall Dune 2 is an excellent adaptation. And the change to Chani was not for woke reasons. So I don't want to bring politics in to it.

They changed it to make it EVEN more clear Paul is not a messiah - and that was not needed, they should have trusted the intellect of their audience more.

My problem with the change is - you can't actually be in love with someone your rebel against and are skeptical of. It is either or. And this part was not logical.

I would have liked some more dialogue and depth (like the books had), but compressing all of that in a movie that works deserves applause.

Good sci-fi is very, very rare (I mean people consider three body trash good - when it is teenage melodrama trash). So I am very grateful for this movie. Will go see it again.


Well after watching it again i think they changed her to make her seem jealous and resentful of how Paul was treated. Im not sure about woke either. But i will agree that treating him lile this, thinking this negatively about him, it seems weird she loves him. Makes little sense.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Apr 2024 14:31    Post subject:
I think i still prefer the original film adaptation
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Apr 2024 18:44    Post subject:
garus wrote:
@Radicalus it's hard to consider this sci-fi. It's more fantasy with all knowing witches, magical potions and warm piss that makes you see the future.

Why do the witches that literally can do magic need to control the universe with some silly myths about fabricated messiahs when they literally are semi-gods themselves?


Hard for me to see the movies separately from the books. In other words, hard to answer based only on knowledge in the movies, because I can't separate the two.

But in the books they are not semi-gods. Not Jedi. They have some skill, they have influence, but a whole lot of factions have influence. And they play a dangerous game with potentially fatal consequences.

As for the reason they want a KH is not present in the movies, but are explained in the books.

Good question, whether this is a sci-fi or not. It is a space-epic for sure. The books describe the world a lot more (I don`t mean visually), and the world is a proper sci-fi world with a lot of lore.

I think miniseries suits this series more, but I am grateful for the movies. Finally something mature after this decade of Marvel kidstuff.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Apr 2024 21:23    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
So much religious magic BS, and it switched directions a couple of times on top. That and it moves so slowly, they had all this time to make me care about these people, and I still didn't care about them by the end of the film.

It felt like watching a Koran audiobook or something. I've not read the F.Herbert book so i don't know if its that the source material that doesn't do it for me, or this version of that story, doesn't do it for me.

I think it's pretty obvious F. Herbert was heavily influenced by Arabic/Bedouin culture/surroundings when depicting Dune, the planet, and Fremen.
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 18:04    Post subject:
Finally watched it too. It was pretty good, but I share some of the criticisms here. The first movie made a lot of effort to point out how shields made guns useless and lasers dangerous, and the movie opens with the Sardaukar getting sniped Laughing Didn't like the Sardaukar either, their armor looked silly and unpractical. They were supposed to be the best and most feared fighters in the galaxy, but they behaved like stormtroopers here Laughing

Paul riding the worm for the first time was very nice. Him hanging on while the worm slowly rotates and the sun shining through the sand and dust might be my favorite shot in the movie.

Chani sucked though, easily the worst part of the movie (and deviation from the books).
I don't really see her bearing 3 of Paul's children the way she stormed off in the end Laughing Going to take some creative writing for that, or maybe we'll just jump 5 years into the future without any explanation Razz I also think they changed her to make it even more obvious Paul isn't the messiah (and that the whole idea of the messiah in the first place was planted by the Bene Gesserit), but I thought the movie made that very clear already with Jessica's (and other BGs) dialogs. The added drama here wasn't necessary.

I kinda get Alia not yet being born though, as it would have made things a lot more complicated (and weird). But again, will take some creative writing for the next movie.

The very ending sucked too, I missed a proper ending instead of (again!) a build up for another one.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Apr 2024 23:52    Post subject:
So there will be a 3rd part to take us up to the end of the 80s dune movie?
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Apr 2024 06:46    Post subject:
About the shields in 2nd part. The director among many skipped things forgot to establish that shields vibrate and sand worms are drawn to it, that's why people don't use them on sand.


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