HD on the fritz
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 09:14    Post subject: HD on the fritz
Fuck, a somewhat important 1TB mechanical drive is about to die. It keeps disappearing when I try to use it. I've disabled the drive for now and I've ordered a 4TB drive hoping I can rescue the data to the new drive. Fuck me if I can't get the old drive to work again.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 10:54    Post subject:
no backup, no pity

yes i know, very helpful right now Razz but now is the time for you to think about a backup strategy (harddrives are cheap, but maybe think about cloud storage and encrypting the files)

external drive? if possible connect the drive internally when you try to copy the files (if your enclosure uses 4k emulation, its a bad idea though). maybe dont try to move the files but 1:1 copy instead of the data, use a boot stick for that. clonezilla should work fine if the drive gets detected. and then try restoring the files from the new hard drive, dont use the old one for more actions than needed
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 12:53    Post subject:
nobody puts their old dirty porn on google drive Laughing i hope
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 13:21    Post subject:
@Frant Depending on what the underlying issue is, most likely you can recover this data at a dedicated data recovery shop, down to removing the magnetic platters from the housing and importing the data that way. If it is really important (not “old dirty porn” Laughing ), you will most likely be able to get it back, at a cost.

Going forward, I do suggest a NAS with at least 1 disk of parity for exactly these situations. Drives at the 4TB range are so cheap nowadays, it’s a crime not to. 2-4 bay NASes aren’t that expensive either.
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 14:01    Post subject:
I think it's the controller going bad. And yeah, for the last ~15 years I've been thinking about getting a backup system. I just haven't gotten to it (after a number of fatal HD crashes). I need to sort out the backup solution.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 14:48    Post subject:
Now is the best time to do it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 15:09    Post subject:
do you get a ticking noise when the drive powers up? then it might be a head-crash

i solved this once by opening the drive and putting the read-write head back in parking position. the HDD still works today

however in most cases this will probably kill your HDD so proceed w caution^^
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 15:20    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
do you get a ticking noise when the drive powers up? then it might be a head-crash

i solved this once by opening the drive and putting the read-write head back in parking position. the HDD still works today

however in most cases this will probably kill your HDD so proceed w caution^^


Nah, it just disappears from Windows when I try to access it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 16:16    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I think it's the controller going bad. And yeah, for the last ~15 years I've been thinking about getting a backup system. I just haven't gotten to it (after a number of fatal HD crashes). I need to sort out the backup solution.


Ive got an old Synology without harddrives in it that you can have if you want. I have to find it first though Razz

It has 4 slots.

Edit: It's not great, but its better than nothing i suppose

Edit2: I guess you did not want it then


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 17:24    Post subject:
Depending on age, I’d recommend buying a new MAS for newer SATA support and performance.
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 19:03    Post subject:
If you have enough balls, patience and income, you can try and buy the same model, the opening up the old one and move the plates to the new one. With some luck you'll find some utub video with the disassembly steps by rajesh/sadik


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Mar 2024 19:03    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
pho08 wrote:
do you get a ticking noise when the drive powers up? then it might be a head-crash

i solved this once by opening the drive and putting the read-write head back in parking position. the HDD still works today

however in most cases this will probably kill your HDD so proceed w caution^^


Nah, it just disappears from Windows when I try to access it.


if internal, change sata cable as well. there is a 100% chance you will sealed ones within your mobo package Wink

after you hopefully recovered your files post the crystal disk info screen here, maybe that gives a reason why this is happening
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2024 21:34    Post subject:
I put in my new 4TB drive after taking out the 1TB WB HDD and dropping it into an external USB HDD/SATA dock. No issues; I copied both partitions onto my new 4TB drive. I can't trust the old 1TB drive from now on though and I'll use it as a scratch disk for unimportant stuff that I can afford to lose if I'm running out of space on my main drives.

Nothing really bad in CrystalDiskInfo except perhaps Power-On Hours; 86271 hours?! really? That's a decade of pure Power-On hours. I seriously doubt that. I don't know if the drive even is that old. Oh well. Thankfully no data lost, no corruption.



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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Mar 2024 09:26    Post subject:
nothing to worry about. have you replaced the sata cable when connecting the new drive?

and yes, simply dont store anything important on that thing

about the power on hours: check the label on the drive itself, the manufacturing date is written there. high possibility that you bought i max 6 months after it was produced. the wd1002faex series is from ~2010, so could be possible if your computer is running almost 24/7?
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Mar 2024 11:30    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
nothing to worry about. have you replaced the sata cable when connecting the new drive?

and yes, simply dont store anything important on that thing

about the power on hours: check the label on the drive itself, the manufacturing date is written there. high possibility that you bought i max 6 months after it was produced. the wd1002faex series is from ~2010, so could be possible if your computer is running almost 24/7?


Uhm, yes, it's been running 24/7 for the last decade at least.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2024 10:41    Post subject:
Just buy a RAID 0 solution, then you will have two HDD's that can screw up.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2024 12:25    Post subject:
lul?
raid 0 is striping, if one drive fails everything is lost

1 would be mirroring. and thats not a backup Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Mar 2024 14:44    Post subject:
So RAID 1 it is. Sorry my days as B̶O̶F̶H̶ sysop are long gone.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 03:10    Post subject:
If I was REALLY in need of a "safety net" I'd go with a RAID 5 redundancy stripe set (or similar). One drive goes down, the other four drives can recreate all the data lost on that drive. But I'll stick with Macrium Reflect to back up important stuff to my new 4TB drive.


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