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The modder who put Pokémon into Palword has claimed “Nintendo has come for me” after a takedown of a tweet.

Creator Toasted Shoes took to X/Twitter to tease a Palworld mod with a clip showing Pokémon’s Ash Ketchum in place of the player character, as well as famous Pokémon such as Pikachu replacing Palworld’s Pals.

Within 24 hours of Toasted Shoes’ tweet going live it was hauled offline by an apparant Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown from Nintendo, which publishes the Pokémon video games.

Speaking to IGN, Toasted Shoes said he still plans to publish the full video showcasing the mod, but will comply with any further copyright notices from Nintendo. “We would love to complete the mod pack and release it for free to the public, however for now we are playing it by ear as we don't want any legal troubles,” Toasted Shoes said.


Seems like Nintendo didn't like the mod lol
Guess that shows that palworld cant get into legal trouble right now
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 19:17    Post subject:
Feels like a game some AI would come up with.
A turd filled to the brim with plagiarism, but a desirable and trendy one !

As a side note, representation does translate to sales. Big surprise !


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A turd filled to the brim with plagiarism ...


This game makes me feel disappointed by humanity.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 21:54    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
As a side note, representation does translate to sales. Big surprise !
I wouldn't be so sure about that.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 22:03    Post subject:
Nintendo got Palworld backlash Laughing

https://x.com/nintendoamerica/status/1749129839435506055


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How did it get so big so quick? Twitch streamers pumping this or something else?


Pokemon (don't underestimate its appeal, even though it's not an official product.. if it were, Steam servers would be melting with 10x the players at least, for sure Very Happy) + Fortnite in a semi-decent, playable survival game (a very popular subgenre) combining BotW, Elden Ring (there are fucking Evergaols in the world Laughing) and others = each and every streamer jumping on the bandwagon alongside kids.. and apparently, quite a number of my Steam friendlist Very Happy
It's also a blatant asset/feature-flip from their previous unfinished Craftopia..

It's quite odd : Temtem, another Pokemon clone more faithful to the Pokemon games, got some media traction back at release, but was a very small sell in the end.
I guess that's also social media dictating what the current FOMO is in a much stronger way, and this is just such a "perfect" combination of popular games that the stars aligned for it.. the mighty algorithm's found its true champion ! Razz

We'll see if the trend sticks after 2-3 months, because the gameplay loop strikes me as deeply repetitive, much like a lot of survival games. The fact that it's a blatant patchwork of far superior games should show more crudely after some time - hopefully !
Player interaction/the ability to fuck one over pretty much defines the genre and its replayability as well, and this seems very tame in that regard..

blackeyedboy wrote:
TheZor wrote:
A turd filled to the brim with plagiarism ...


This game makes me feel disappointed by humanity.


Laughing We're only getting started I reckon Razz

tonizito wrote:
TheZor wrote:
As a side note, representation does translate to sales. Big surprise !
I wouldn't be so sure about that.


If we're talking "hardcore" PC gaming in certain nice genres that are very adverse to the idea altogether, perhaps (...), or when it's completely out of touch/taste, it might end up hurting global sales ; but I think that on average, it'll translate to more sales on a globalized, worldwide market for which men and women are at relatively close odds. Razz It's not too easy to find studies about the subject to back my intuition up, if you've got anything I'm all for it Smile
Depends what we're calling diversity too, but let's not derail this thread, don't bring the DXW out of me ! Razz Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 22:59    Post subject:
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don't bring the DXW out of me ! Razz Very Happy
I've changed my mind, I take it all back Laughing


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tonizito wrote:
TheZor wrote:
don't bring the DXW out of me ! Razz Very Happy
I've changed my mind, I take it all back Laughing


I knew that would do the trick Very Happy Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 11:07    Post subject:
IGN censored killing pals? It doesn’t even have any gore right? Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 12:15    Post subject:
I believe that’s built into the game. Not IGN doing it.


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Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
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Hmm really? I had no idea! Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 12:32    Post subject:
Well the game beat Counter Strike 2 in all time high, surely they won't abandon it So Much Win

They even posted a road map on their discord server.

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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 17:15    Post subject:
https://www.eurogamer.net/is-palworld-actually-any-good-of-course-not

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Much of the grumpiness around Palworld so far - and admittedly, a not-insignificant portion of mine - comes from its success. If all of this feels a bit brutal for a discussion of an indie game that came out of nowhere, it's worth bearing that success in mind. Palworld is wildly popular, not just in terms of sales but actual player satisfaction. Its Steam review numbers - around 57,000 reviews at "Very Positive" - are huge outliers for a game this early in its life. Especially an Early Access one from an independent developer in Japan, with seemingly minimal pre-launch marketing buzz and no major publisher behind it. Cynicism coupled with success is already enough to leave you feeling sour.


This game broke a lot of people's minds. You can see how the journos and platform warriors react when something like this happens unexpected. When they're not prepared. Instead of enjoying this benign phenomenon and having fun, they're personally insulted by its success. And to write a whole article about this nonsensical feeling ... Guy ended up locking his twitter because everyone was mocking him
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 18:51    Post subject:
A ton of gamejournos and indie cucks are currently incredibly butthurt that something like this completely blows up as opposed to some queer inspired hyper-heckin valid point and click adventure that 99,9999% of the audience could not care less about.
It's great.


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Anyone got some nice pictures or other links of nintendrones losing it on twitter etc. about this game?
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 19:41    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
A ton of gamejournos and indie cucks are currently incredibly butthurt that something like this completely blows up as opposed to some queer inspired hyper-heckin valid point and click adventure that 99,9999% of the audience could not care less about.
It's great.

Not going to lie, I like this a lot, go woke and go broke.
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Much of the grumpiness around Palworld so far - and admittedly, a not-insignificant portion of mine - comes from its success. If all of this feels a bit brutal for a discussion of an indie game that came out of nowhere, it's worth bearing that success in mind. Palworld is wildly popular, not just in terms of sales but actual player satisfaction. Its Steam review numbers - around 57,000 reviews at "Very Positive" - are huge outliers for a game this early in its life. Especially an Early Access one from an independent developer in Japan, with seemingly minimal pre-launch marketing buzz and no major publisher behind it. Cynicism coupled with success is already enough to leave you feeling sour.


This game broke a lot of people's minds. You can see how the journos and platform warriors react when something like this happens unexpected. When they're not prepared. Instead of enjoying this benign phenomenon and having fun, they're personally insulted by its success. And to write a whole article about this nonsensical feeling ... Guy ended up locking his twitter because everyone was mocking him


I know you're happy because it's a win for PC as a platform : this definitely wouldn't ever come out on consoles, I think Laughing But come on, this game is not something that should really be praised, unfortunately. Its success is somewhat puzzling and mostly highlights how FOMO seems stronger than ever, even though I was trying to explain it before too.
I mean, yeah, I guess I'm happy for the dev team for their success, which is huge relative to their work, people making it big is a wholesome sight - at least this journalist is honest about how much of a bad and sour loser he is about it though, sort of Razz

I can't help but coming off as the "stop having fun" meme, can I ? - except I'm not sour about people having fun, I swear ! Very Happy Razz

Well, I'll leave you guys to your fun, even though it doesn't seem to be with playing the game Very Happy


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At the risk of summoning the innerchatDXGPT I'll have to disagree again: I'm not sure the success is so puzzling.
While it isn't a real pokemon game, it does scratch an itch and shows the nintendassholes the potential for a PC release of that franchise (never going to happen, as we know).
For years the property has been exclusive to the godawful nintendo hardware, and at least the last two releases where underwhelming and/or had a few technical issues. So here comes an alternative, early access and even with its share of technical issues but also giving you the chance to play with other people (not sure if it's just co-op or if it also has PvP) in a an open-world setting, for the crushing price of...$40? Makes sense to me that it's a hit, even more than that silly image I've posted.
In ~2 weeks we'll know if it was just a fad or if it will have legs.
Getting the idiot journos/pansy twitter develolpers pissed off is just a welcomed bonus, like that BG3 "controversy" last year, remember that one? Laughing


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If this was an even remotely legit PC Pokemon game, it would absolutely crush all-time records for Steam/PC, for sure ! I was listing hypothetical reasons for its quick success earlier and I agree with all of your points Smile They priced it right too, that's a very good point and makes it immediately that much accessible for its probably rather young audience - on average, no judgement at all here for those who play it. Razz
I rather meant puzzling for how much of of a blatant rip-off it is, I've looked at gameplay for quite some time and.. it's just nothing about it seems remarkable or even actually excellent - the monster design is a good copy of Pokemon though, and landscapes (in the horizon) can look pretty good but also an awful lot like ER Very Happy Other than that, your usual survival game with Fortnite-like gunplay and managing ARK-like dinosaurs turned kawaii.

I was expecting people to dislike that ripoff/cheap copy aspect a little more and not completely disregard it, including people (idk, like critical) that are usually more critical of this kind of fuckery. Personally, it bothers me and completely kills any interest I might have had in the game, as well as not making me think very highly of it at all.
It's just "good enough" to satisfy a very large audience.. it's quite remarkable as a gaming and commercial phenomenon.

Regarding the BG3 controversy, I followed it from here and it was funny indeed. Very Happy
To be honest, I don't really read reviews any more at all, as pretentious as it sounds I feel like most of us have good shit-o-meter for telling whether a game will be shit or not without really needing them Very Happy We kinda got it figured out after all this time, don't we Razz


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There are multiple pokemon like games on steam like TemTem, Coromon, Exomon, Cassette Beasts, Monster Sanctuary. Almost all praised and yet not a single best seller.

It's the cursed survival mmo with pokemons genuine how nintendo allowed that troll game that build up that number of sales.


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Tbh I bought it for 2 dollars on xbox store just to see what all the fuss is about and if im actually wrong. I know that the xbox version is a little behind but you can get a little grasp.

Its basically like most other survival building games out there where the main mechanic is the same. Farm more and craft more + the pokemons. It is fun for a while but i see it getting kinda repetitive over time. Plus there are some bugs i encountered that are really annoying like if you get raided by npcs your monsters freak out and just run to the outer ring of your base and get stuck there even if there are no enemies around anymore. Maybe thats fixed in the steam version but dunno.


I feel like there is a crowd of gamers that are usually jumping on the latest grinding game trend and like the repetitive games. They find a game grind through it and jump to the next trend. And this is kinda that type of game

In its current form its decent but nothing revolutionary or crazy but does it have potential? Sure. The devs could make something much better and bigger out of it. But will they? I guess time will tell
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jan 2024 01:53    Post subject:
Even if a legit Pokemon game came to PC, it would still be shit as legit Pokemon games are stuck in the 90s / early 2000s in terms of... everything.

They should pull their fucking fingers out, create a good open world game with graphics from 2005 onwards (at least 2005, I know it's hard for them), and then print money from now until eternity.

Yet I imagine some moron in an office looking at the success of Palworld, doubling down on lazy efforts while ignoring PC sales. I really hope I'm wrong, but they've had decades to do *something*, yet all we get is the bare minimum. Hopefully those sales are too good for them to ignore. Hopefully someone's getting slapped around a board room with a large trout. It's really pathetic when you think about how much they must make from Pokemon vs how much they reinvest into it's sequels.
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lametta wrote:
I feel like there is a crowd of gamers that are usually jumping on the latest grinding game trend and like the repetitive games. They find a game grind through it and jump to the next trend. And this is kinda that type of game

crowd of 6 million? Laughing

it's not a bad game, definitely strikes me as an amateur effort with lots of basic problems (all UE specific), but still has enough mechanics to make it fun. i got about 24 hours on it now.
i think the developers themselves don't have an ounce of creativity and have lifted just about everything from other games, but have still managed to create a reasonably compelling game using those components with reasonable balance, some depth in breeding/crafting and some grind to slow players down to stop them chewing up the game in 10 hours.

i guess the most important metric here is that palworld doesn't have any negative sentiment in the market right now thanks to it being 'pokemon with guns' which is apparently very important, even though each individual component of the game is infinitely worse than something like forspoken, which was apparently the worst game.

all that remains now is for the fanbase to turn on them like craftopia and they can spin all the money into another unfinished copypasta. it's still better than another AAA iteration pretending to be anything but watered down for mass consumption.
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Interinactive wrote:
Even if a legit Pokemon game came to PC, it would still be shit as legit Pokemon games are stuck in the 90s / early 2000s in terms of... everything.

They should pull their fucking fingers out, create a good open world game with graphics from 2005 onwards (at least 2005, I know it's hard for them), and then print money from now until eternity.

Yet I imagine some moron in an office looking at the success of Palworld, doubling down on lazy efforts while ignoring PC sales. I really hope I'm wrong, but they've had decades to do *something*, yet all we get is the bare minimum. Hopefully those sales are too good for them to ignore. Hopefully someone's getting slapped around a board room with a large trout. It's really pathetic when you think about how much they must make from Pokemon vs how much they reinvest into it's sequels.


Wtf would you take on any risks and do anything but just another copy paste of this or the 500 ones that came before it. The secret sauce here is same same open world garbage + knock off Pokemon and millennials.
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