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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 05:32    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
Exactly, not sure what makes you think they give you a free Steamversion grinhurt


Got a free Steam version of FO76 when it came over

Got about a hundred free games on GOG connect from Steam

In the early days I also used CD keys to get free Steam versions

It's not unheard of, but the way he phrased it, just made it sound like it was a thing. What spent money is being saved otherwise? In game purchases?
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 07:46    Post subject:
Diablo IV and Tony Hawk's Steam release timing really feels like Activision is trying to milk as much money as they can right before Microsoft owns them and it becomes their profits instead. I bet Activision hope that the deal gets pushed another 2 months so they can get those Call Of Duty release profits too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 07:59    Post subject:
trying to milk = successfully milking.

Maybe Microsoft can turn some of these companies around because i don't think any of the publishers they've acquired make any good games anymore?
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 11:58    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
trying to milk = successfully milking.

Maybe Microsoft can turn some of these companies around because i don't think any of the publishers they've acquired make any good games anymore?

i don't know why people always think microsoft "turns something around"?! just look at their history of buying stuff, it always ends worse and it will be the same here since making games for a gamepass will always end in a mediocre product.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 13:58    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
https://youtu.be/uRwTncTR2OY


thats it? Laughing They really dont get it that the game does not have any content.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 18:02    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Oct 2023 02:26    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
Diablo IV and Tony Hawk's Steam release timing really feels like Activision is trying to milk as much money as they can right before Microsoft owns them and it becomes their profits instead. I bet Activision hope that the deal gets pushed another 2 months so they can get those Call Of Duty release profits too.


Tony Hawk 1 and 2 came out like 3 years ago on Epic Games.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Oct 2023 11:40    Post subject:
jackasshole wrote:
0wen wrote:
Diablo IV and Tony Hawk's Steam release timing really feels like Activision is trying to milk as much money as they can right before Microsoft owns them and it becomes their profits instead. I bet Activision hope that the deal gets pushed another 2 months so they can get those Call Of Duty release profits too.


Tony Hawk 1 and 2 came out like 3 years ago on Epic Games.


I was referring to the Steam release just due to that simple fact that it came out on Epic 3 years ago, so it was like Activision forgot it even existed until the Microsoft acquisition was about to happen so they were like let's put it up on Steam and get a bit more money while we are still own it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 00:19    Post subject:


The fuck is going on with developers these days Laughing

Blizzard deleted this trailer by the way: https://www.pcgamesn.com/diablo-4/season-2-deleted-video
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 00:36    Post subject:
They are doing math right, he is doing it wrong..and making fun of them by not understanding how it works in diablo. (Granted they framed it weird)

For example the 1400 vs 1440. All bonuses are of the base, not cumulative stacks (and not many games do it that way).

So 1000*1.2 = 1200, add another 1.2 multiplier of your base = 200. So 1400.
Nearly all games bonuses are calculated against the raw number, not sequentially added to already modified numbers.
It's usually a very bad practice to allow multicators to stack in game mechanics (be it gun range, damage, rate of fire, or xp, coin earned etc).


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 00:36    Post subject:
lol, cant bilieve i forgot to post it here, ive been laughing my ass off at the math with my friends on whatsapp group haha , now its so obvious why resistances didnt work , percentages are hard Very Happy

that video was worth the 20 bucks for the premium edition Laughing Laughing Laughing

if the math is right, why they remove the video Cool Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 00:39    Post subject:
Dunno, cant explain that.
But without an answer, cannot say it was because of that either. As the math works the exact same way all the other multipliers and bonuses work in most all blizzard games.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 00:47    Post subject:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/does-blizzard-understand-basic-math-%F0%9F%A4%A3/128531/14

Blizzard wrote:
The asset in this had incorrect math, and the dungeon images were incorrect as well. We’ve removed the video accordingly.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 02:06    Post subject:
But the math was right? Just the formulas was wrong (they failed to show their work correctly to get the right answer)
I still think they listed the formula wrong, not that they got the total wrong. The 1400 is right, now they displayed they get it was wrong.

People are making fun of them for the math, but getting wrong why they are making fun of it by also being wrong.
"Blizzard can't math!"
"Yep, they dont know how to show how they got 1400, You can't established game mechanic either and think it should be 1440"

If ya want to make fun of how they got it wrong, dont get it wrong how they they got it wrong. Very Happy
Unless they meant it to be different this time (cumulative stacking bonuses) than how they do math in other diablos (and WoW, and overwatch, and warcraft/starcraft).

It's always been base + (base * bonus) + (base * bonus) + [...]
And not base*bonus(base*bonus(base*bonus)...]).


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 02:13    Post subject:
dxGPT 3.5...

When Blizzard admits it was flawed, it might be time to move on Laughing

The game's a wreck, and they are a multi-billion dollar company, there was no excuse for this to happen (or the other 2 issues in the video). Should have been checked multiple times.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 02:21    Post subject:
You are missing my point.
Blizzard has the formula wrong, never said they didn't. People are lulzing over "They had the answer wrong. No the answer is right", the 'show your work' is wrong.

Because to get 4 for an answer, to say 2 + 1 = 4 is wrong...
and they are going "LULZ it should answer 3...(nope we wanted 4, so I did the wrong math, you say the wrong answer based on that wrong math formula)

And why does everyone assume anytime I point something out, I am supporting it the whole of what it relates to? Im pointing out BOTH sides are wrong.
Games a mess, blizzard fucked the game, they had they formula wrong.

And People on youtubez cannot grasp well know mechanics to get right WHY the info they gave was wrong Razz
BOTH blizzard and the people luzzing are wrong, one on the correct answer, the other on how to get that answer.
They are making fun of the wrong thing. In no situation is the answer 1440, nor in any situation does the wrong formula they show give you the correct answer of 1400.

They are making idiots of themselves, by pointing out the wrong reason blizzard made idiots of themselves.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 02:27    Post subject:
Fucking hell
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 02:31    Post subject:
I guess game mechanic mathing is hard for not just blizzard. For people too as they cannot get right which side of the equation blizzard had wrong Smile

BOTH Sides can be wrong in this Razz Blizzard ate shit and face planted. Others did too trying to make fun of why blizzard did.

1400 is the right answer all day long for how blizzards mechanics have always worked. They fucked up showing how they get that 1400 on the left side. Not fucked up and needed 1440 on the right hand side.
(Unless blizzard is breaking tradition using new multiplicative bonus stacks)


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 05:12    Post subject:
Blizz has the right formula.

It had massive sales, I've also been here long enough to know you will buy the expansion for this game + pre-order the next game /w premium cult edition durr hurr extra $'s. Most this board buy every shitty AAA hyped game every single time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 05:26    Post subject:
Talking to me? (or in general?) because I didn't even buy the base game.
My friend Avi got it for me, I had no plans to buy it or want it. He got it for me and a friend as he wanted someone to play with him.
Well he didn't even buy it. He runs a custom PC store and got the codes from video card promotions.

I dont think its a great game either, or plan on getting expansions. Its a solid C- grade at best, and that only while it has the 'new game smell'. I haven't logged into it since we moved on to other games.

Hack and slash/Action RPG games are not my style. Not even in my top 10 genres if I had to organize them. I dont think I paid for any of the diablo games. 1 I pirated, 2 same (I think, or was given an account someone was done with), 3 I played on my sons account with friends.

Last blizzard game I paid for was warcraft 2. (Thought it was worth it)


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 12:50    Post subject:
bought with wow gold, and still tried to get a refund when they announced that first bullshit patch Laughing sadly denied

havent given a triplle aaa company money in 5 years now Mad
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 15:26    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
bought with wow gold, and still tried to get a refund when they announced that first bullshit patch Laughing sadly denied

havent given a triplle aaa company money in 5 years now Mad


And gold is free? You are paying with your time, more than once actually...
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2023 17:59    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NNbF1Z_V_k

The fuck is going on with developers these days Laughing

Blizzard deleted this trailer by the way: https://www.pcgamesn.com/diablo-4/season-2-deleted-video


It does tell a bit about the state of Blizzard after the "modern sensibilities" crowd with princess syndrome all around has chased off the old crew. Not good.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2023 20:26    Post subject:
Season Of Fail is already broken, delayed for "technical issues" Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2023 23:20    Post subject:
Diablo 4 was good enough, but i only care about the story. Screw grinding afterwards
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2023 01:02    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
Laughing
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That summed it up beautifully. The itemization/prefixes/affixes in this one are complete fucking trash. Those blessed with the minds of Kasparov or other chess players probably enjoy it - not so for rest of most of us. Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2023 12:39    Post subject:
i literraly just do salvage all, cant bother reading al that shit, its the most stupid itemization EVER designed

EVER IN HISTORY OF GAMING; BE PROUD U BUNCH OF DIVERSITY HIRES

NOT A SINGLE ITEM DROPS THAT GETS U EXCITED

remember when a unique ring of a set item dropped and u got all excited for what it could be, d4 has ZERO events like that except maybe when a legendary weapon drops cause thats once again the only source of damage in this retarded game

most people cant even name a single piece of gear they have on, its DUSGUSTING how bad it is
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