De-Extinction
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 08:56    Post subject: De-Extinction
De-extinction: Is it really possible to bring extinct animals back from the dead?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-03-19/de-extinction-thylacine-tasmanian-tiger-woolly-mammoth/100913846

Extinct Tasmanian tiger yields RNA secrets that could aid resurrection:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2392879-extinct-tasmanian-tiger-yields-rna-secrets-that-could-aid-resurrection/

Isn't this similar to cloning which is outlawed? Are scientists legally allowed to Frankenstein up an existing species? where do they draw the line? and this wouldn't be a Tasmanian Tiger it would be x.000392 DNA sequencing formula.

At first I thought do not pursue this because it also sets a precedent that endangered species are no big deal (we will just manufacture some new ones), but then I think our current strategy doesn't work anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , sure go for it.

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Here's some colorized footage of the last Tasmanian Tiger from 1930's. This was such a unique creature isolated to such a small part of the world, its a marsupial like a Kangaroo but Dog/Dingo like. Left to evolve and not hunted to oblivion for thousands of years by Aborigine's prior to Anglo Saxons turning up. Then we arrived, and hunted them all to extinction for rugs/ skins in less than 100 years.

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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 09:36    Post subject: Re: De-Extinction
AmpegV4 wrote:
De-extinction: Is it really possible to bring extinct animals back from the dead?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-03-19/de-extinction-thylacine-tasmanian-tiger-woolly-mammoth/100913846

Extinct Tasmanian tiger yields RNA secrets that could aid resurrection:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2392879-extinct-tasmanian-tiger-yields-rna-secrets-that-could-aid-resurrection/

Isn't this similar to cloning which is outlawed? Are scientists legally allowed to Frankenstein up an existing species? where do they draw the line? and this wouldn't be a Tasmanian Tiger it would be x.000392 DNA sequencing formula.

At first I thought do not pursue this because it also sets a precedent that endangered species are no big deal (we will just manufacture some new ones), but then I think our current strategy doesn't work anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , sure go for it.

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Here's some colorized footage of the last Tasmanian Tiger from 1930's. This was such a unique creature isolated to such a small part of the world, its a marsupial like a Kangaroo but Dog/Dingo like. Left to evolve and not hunted to oblivion for thousands of years by Aborigine's prior to Anglo Saxons turning up. Then we arrived, and hunted them all to extinction for rugs/ skins in less than 100 years.



Cloning is not entirely outlawed, Dolly wasn't a one-shot.


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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 10:50    Post subject:
Looks like your right, the following was a follow up article on Dolly. The basic idea was to be able to clone / create stem cells of the particular person through cloning for replacement organs.

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If we could create stem cells that are clones of a particular person, we could potentially grow them into replacement organs that would fit perfectly into their bodies without rejection. That would be a huge advance for the field of regenerative medicine, which tries to help people who’ve had damage to their organs through disease or injury – or indeed through ageing.

The idea of embryonic stem cells caused a massive wave of controversy in the 90s and early 2000s. That’s because many people with religious sensibilities were offended by the idea that an embryo – to which they ascribed full personhood – would be created and then killed just for the production of stem cells. US President George W Bush banned government funding for this kind of research in 2001 – a ban that was rescinded eight years later by Barack Obama.

Why don’t we hear about that debate any more? It’s because science made it largely obsolete. In 2006, the biologist Shinya Yamanaka discovered the technique to produce “induced pluripotent stem cells”: a way of reprogramming adult cells so they become stem cells. Crucially, this means they don’t need to be produced from cloned human embryos, neatly sidestepping the ethical controversy. It won Yamanaka a share of the Nobel Prize in 2012.


Then the following page that's likely 50/50 accurate informs enough to know that in many countries there are essentially no laws preventing cloning:

https://www.faqsclear.com/where-is-cloning-legal-in-the-world/

And I guess some correction to the Thylacene. Apparently it disappeared from mainland Australia predominantly due to the introduction of dingo's that were never native to the area (5000 or so years ago). However as Tasmania separated from the mainland due to rising sea levels within that time period, the dingo never got there and thus Thylacene survived until it was hunt to extinction by humans. Worse still was this was Government a driven initiative: Bounty: One pound per head and ten shillings for sub-adults from 1888 to 1909 (Tasmanian Government).

Sadly the retard zoo keepers in the 30's one night forgot to unlock the one in the video's shelter and it died of hypothermia over night. They tried to find a replacement and never found one, then it was marked as a protected species.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 14:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 14:16    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Looks like your right

It looks more like his left, rather than his right Scratch Head
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