Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt RED)
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Interinactive
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 14:40    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
you should stream it, after all you seem to love the game Laughing


I do love the game

I hate the bugs though, they sully my otherwise sunny disposition towards it

jermore wrote:
that's why it's a ramp


That's generally why the player collision path and physics collision paths are on separate layers Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 14:58    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Have you also noticed (lol) that when you point your gun at people, they all rise off the ground ~20cm?
Brilliant Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 15:05    Post subject:
Well one thing is certain, Interinactive should've been a bug tester for the game, a little late now perhaps but you can always report any findings Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 15:52    Post subject:
Should i start phantom liberty as soon as it gets available or i should wait till the point of no return ? When it does make the most sense story wise ? (i have finished cyberpunk before if that matters)


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 18:23    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Well one thing is certain, Interinactive should've been a bug tester for the game, a little late now perhaps but you can always report any findings Wink
Pretty sure that these bugs are already known but CDPR just doesn't give a shit about it.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 18:26    Post subject:
finished phantom liberty and the new games ending, happy and sad ending for V at the same time, def a really good expansion and just makes me wanting a cyberpunk sequel more than a witcher one. curious what big star they will bring in the sequel, and really like this ideea of bringing movie actors and their faces into a game and be a big part of the game


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 22:19    Post subject:
Warezing atm. How's melee in the game? Blocking bullets with an electronic katana sounds pretty badass. Is a melee/gun hybrid viable?
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2023 22:56    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 08:47    Post subject:


I am a fucking NINJA
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 08:56    Post subject:
I don't give a shit about openworld minigames and police combat, i havn't played a rockstar game since GTA Vice City i find them that boring.

I also don't care about the kind of bugs @inter's posting.

I've had this game since release, I think my total playtime is 1h. I think my problem is the openworld design, it means the AI and gunplay even without bugs will suck ass. Or maybe the Cyberpunk IP just doesn't do it for me? I'm not sure. Yeah unless the main quest is a masterpiece, I can't see myself installing this again. I also figure the main story isn't that polished (like in comparison to W3) given they couldn't even get the base game working for 2 years after release.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 09:21    Post subject:
I think the main story is actually really good. I mean it was more then good enough to get me through on the initial bug ridden release, on my old rig where I had the infamous mirror crash and it was really a hassle to get through. Characters and dialogue in general are really good. The only game I'd say beats it when it comes to that in the last half a decade or so, at least for me is Read Dead Redemption 2.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 09:24    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
I don't give a shit about openworld minigames and police combat, i havn't played a rockstar game since GTA Vice City i find them that boring.


It's not like police combat is great even for those who don't find it boring. It's nice that it's there now, but it's not a fully developed system. It's extremely basic. The fact they drop no loot when killed disincentivizes even getting into tangles with them.

Play it if you like:
  • Fights that can be solved different ways
  • Lots of combat methods (melee, throwing, guns, hacking)
  • Lots of driving
  • Preem graphics
  • Lots of narrative based content
  • People that look like humans - including attractive females (no kidding!)
  • Chasing the next best thing (weapons, hacks, cars)
  • Being a ninja!

When I first started playing, after the ~3 year wait, I hated the combat. I thought Starfield's weapons felt punchier, but then you get to a point where it just clicks and it's fun going around decimating gangs, one after the other

The bugs I am posting by themselves aren't an issue, it's the fact that there are so many. It is the sum of many bugs that ruin an otherwise very immersive and beautiful experience.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 09:31    Post subject:
Yep. Game is buggy as fuck still, but thankfully I haven't run into anything gamebreaking yet just these weird spawning stuff and clipping stuff, as well as getting shot through walls with cyber phase bullets and cyber laser sights. Doing the PL stuff now after getting main story up to before Embers.

The changes to the perk tree has made combat more enjoyable and I've actually decided to run a sandevestan when in my previous playthrough at launch was just all remote hacking. But I hear the changes to remote hacking has greatly improved the experience so I might try that on a later PL only start.

Anyway, people keep going on about cyberpsycho's but I think the real cyberpsycho is my V who when he sees a yellow icon on top of group of people will just walk up, slow down time, and slice all of them up even if they aren't the "attacks when you enter their radius" type of yellow icons. Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 12:25    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
vurt wrote:
Well one thing is certain, Interinactive should've been a bug tester for the game, a little late now perhaps but you can always report any findings Wink
Pretty sure that these bugs are already known but CDPR just doesn't give a shit about it.


Seems like most people don't either, including in here, so I'd say they're pretty spot-on Very Happy Devil Troll


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 12:46    Post subject:
who? you mean people play it but it still can be buggy? i don't play it since i expect at least one more patch, probably more.

For Witcher 3 i waited years(3'ish?) after release, so i pretty much played the final version (but not really since it was actually updated again rather recently). Had a great experience, big DLC's etc Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 13:05    Post subject:
Combat has become unexpectedly entertaining.

I am a diplomatic, pacifist, silenced pistol gentleman, but... it's so damn satisfying(!!!111) pushing them back (down on the ground) with a huge shotgun blast and then punch them in the face till they drop for good...

I have NEVER been able to do this in any other game... Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 14:05    Post subject:
Yea, pure gameplay is so much fun. And bugs? For fuck's sake, show me a game without bugs. Are there still bugs in C2077? Yes. But first of all, they are really rare and second of all, they are in no way a detriment to enjoying this game Smile If you want to play it, play it now and don't listen to nitpickers - it's in a great shape!
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 14:15    Post subject:
Oh cool, another bozo who considers themselves to be the center of the universe

https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/bugs-after-patch-2-0.11118940/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/7/3878218962820010899/

86 pages in just over a week. Great shape, men!
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 14:41    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 14:48    Post subject:
You could also say you're being apologists to other games in comparison, i guess? For fun i just took a random new popular game - BG3:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/3/

people post bugs and issues every hour almost, month after month.

You can also check No Man's Sky forums if you want to see people posting bug after bug.. yet i play that game from time to time, i'm having a great time, never ran into any real issues with it. if you would just go by the forum and read the posts, well, there's a high risk you would say to yourself that the game is totally unplayable and you wouldn't even want to try it.

This isn't news to anyone who plays games that every game that exists has bugs. Doesn't mean there are tons of people having a good time and without any real issues. And it also doesn't mean there isn't a shit ton of people with issues, because there clearly is, there always is.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 14:59    Post subject:
Yeah we know, it's in a great state

The mission with Placide is still broken if you pick option 2

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgamebugs/comments/kijvxm/gamebreaking_bug_i_walk_the_line_please_help/

I just hit it myself

vurt wrote:
people post bugs and issues every hour almost, month after month.


After 3 years and a major 2.0 patch as well? Or barely 1 month? Totally comparable!
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 15:29    Post subject:
I made 2 examples. one new game and one really old game, older than CP... if you read the forum, you'd be hard-pressed to find a single positive comment about that game. Yet if you read the reviews, or check the score, hmm, people are very happy... Same with this game.
If it truly was super, super buggy, there's zero chance people would give it a Very Positive. You'd have review bombing, because it's happened before for this exact game and it would absolutely happen again. It happened to NMS at the start too because well, it was in a shitty state, people didn't have fun.

A new enormous patch + DLC, i would never play a game directly after that Laughing again, sometimes i think you're new to PC games. While i think many people (maybe most, looking at current score etc) can be lucky to not run into something super serious, it's really not the best time to play it. Replay Witcher 3 perhaps Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 22:17    Post subject:
Been playing Sprawl today, really good Cyberpunk boomer shooter if you like the Ninja aspects of CP2077 i bet.. wall jumping, bullet-time, katana and dismemberment Cool

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1549690/SPRAWL/

Damn, if we instead could get this many System Shock 2 and Deus Ex-clones instead... i do like shooters but there's a big black void to fill here, not so much for shooters exactly these days.. just way easier to make i guess..
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Oct 2023 00:05    Post subject:
I highlighted the many bugs in BGIII after Act I the same way I have here, but being buggy this early on is more than understandable. They also didn't overpromise and underdeliver. I have played NMS for a total of maybe a few hours over the years and have no opinion on its issues. Even if I started now, it'd be the same shit, eg: I don't care, and 'I don't consider those bugs!'. But I already stated that people have a double standard with games they like vs those they don't like as much, glad we seemingly agree on something.

I won't post another comment about bugs, but if people are going to say things like 'the game is in a great state' when main quests can still be broken the same way as in 2020, or the myriad of bugs that have gone unresolved, then fuck it.

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A blood one that still works in 2.0, which I will be using:

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3975





Looks fuckin' great for melee combat
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Oct 2023 02:26    Post subject:
To be fair dont u live in Australia or something? Code probably running upside down there so it's bound to be buggier.


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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Oct 2023 02:29    Post subject:
Yeah, it's like CDPR just decided to give up on the bugs. As mentioned previously, that sick/glitch UI bug still exists even though modders have already fixed it.

At first, I was hoping some of these were addressed because they fixed T-posing fat lady at the club.


She used to always be T-posed in previous playthroughs.

But then I got to the tutorial and they still haven't fixed the last parts with the dummy being broken.


This guy will either constantly dodge when he's supposed to get hit, and will also constantly dodge when he's supposed to attack you so you can dodge. You can push him into a corner to try and make him attack but when he does and you dodge, it doesn't register, so you end up stuck in the tutorial and have to reload to skip it.



Person sat at the curb outside the motel is still sitting on air, and I think they've been doing that since release.



The club in that quest where you investigate the boyfriend/manager's alleged cheating still has it so that the game thinks it's closed even though it's night and is open so you can't really beat it unless you reload a save to before you leave the place you got the quest from and skip time to evening / fast travel to the club to see if it bugged this time or not.


These guys turned to chickens as I apporached. Their hands started to get tangled behind their back and they started walking funny. I found it amusing tbh Laughing


Oh and your ride still at times spawn from the sky when you summon it, so like a proper summon then kek. But it can also spawn inside buildings, or randomly get treated as having been destroyed even though you did fuck all so it just doesn't come to you when you call it.




It's unfortunate that these bugs will never get fixed, but I suppose thanks to the changes to 2.0, I've been having fun and am less whingy as I was on launch. Also, probably because Starfield is the most recent title I can compare this to, I find things to be way better and more fun lol

Edit: Oh, and the driving is still shit.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2023 13:44    Post subject:
Dogtown FPS 130 > 70 Dude Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2023 15:15    Post subject:
Can confirm that the sitting on air bug was there at the game's release. Shit, on the nomad start there was a guy sitting on air in the middle of the road with another guy siting on top of him Laughing
Wonder if bumping crowd density down to medium helps that in any way, but I won't be testing it for now.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2023 15:19    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Dogtown FPS 130 > 70 Dude Sad


Same for me, thought something was wrong with my pc for a moment there.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2023 21:18    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Dogtown FPS 130 > 70 Dude Sad


They did warn that the new DLC would push rigs to the limit. Very Happy


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