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tet666




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 08:57    Post subject:
Nvidia monkey paw no ray reconstruction is not 4xxx cards only but it's locked behind path tracing which runs like shit on anything not able to generate fake frames to compensate sigh dunno what i was even expecting.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 09:30    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Nvidia monkey paw no ray reconstruction is not 4xxx cards only but it's locked behind path tracing which runs like shit on anything not able to generate fake frames to compensate sigh dunno what i was even expecting.


Why would you want it? It makes my 165hz monitor feel like some cheap ghosting panel. Ghosting everywhere. And:



Look at the female cop's face + the cook on the right. Everything looks unnatural when it's on.

I'm not sure if I'll keep pathtracing on either:

No RT: 205FPS
RT: 140FPS
RT path: 109FPS (but feels laggy)
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 09:53    Post subject:
Hehe, that's the thing with AI models working with a shitty ass resolution to begin with, they just fill in the smudge with whatever they think is good and it ends up being an artifact fest.
I can't play most games with DLSS on, it just looks like shit and I only see artifacts and ghosting everywhere.

Your screenshots do look jarring and unnatural - although the "On" version has better quality detail (faces are better defined and the grid in the background is a lot clearer). Both kinda look bad either way, though


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 10:00    Post subject:
I havent found yet anything that bad that catches my eye, is it resolution glitch? Looks amazing at "4k".
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 10:07    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 10:08    Post subject:
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Oh I know the devs take it seriously, they get to get paid by nvidia, spend less work on actual development and performance fixes and in return the only thing they have to do is suck some dick in promo materials.

yup, check the answer at 15:55

adding path tracing or ray construction or whatever is fine and dandy by me as long as they also take care of the basic shit like optimization and scalability
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 10:58    Post subject:
Nvidia is here trying to make real time "real" raytracing work with playable frame rates, what you guys are crying? You don't need to enable it. Im not trying to defend here Nvidia, but bashing it because you can't run it is just retarded, also those videos with 300% zoom and slow motion pixel by pixel shit is retarded, you can't run this stuff without these kind of technologies, most of the stuff you are not going to even notice when you are actually playing normally, games have shit loads of visual glitches without RT on these days aswell.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 11:01    Post subject:
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Nvidia is here trying to make real time "real" raytracing work with playable frame rates, what you guys are crying? You don't need to enable it. Im not trying to defend here Nvidia, but bashing it because you can't run it is just retarded, also those videos with 300% zoom and slow motion pixel by pixel shit is retarded, most of the stuff you are not going to even notice, games have shit loads of visual glitches without RT on these on aswell.


Basically, they should not have been running this DLSS-beta test that doesn't need users for years on end. The technology is immature at best and it's now becoming the bandaid a lot of devs will fall upon instead of optimizing. Now you know why we're crying.

To each his own, if you're very happy we can't run games natively any more and just need to squint our eyes a little to ignore the obvious ghosting and artifacts smearing the screen, all the power to you dude.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 11:05    Post subject:
Developers have not been optimizing their shit for ages now. Also im far from happy that I need to use every single black magic AI stuff on the most expensive card money can buy for gaming.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 12:08    Post subject:
Btw you can enable ray reconstrunction without path tracing

\AppData\Local\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077\UserSettings.json

Quote:
"name": "DLSS_D",
"type": "bool",
"value": true,
"default_value": true


If you disable DLSS in game and enable it will resetted.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 12:28    Post subject:
HDR seems to be better than before...?

Performance in Overdrive is pretty rough on my 3080. ~30-50fps on 4K DLSS Performance. No way I'm playing without it, though. The old RT is a clear step back and rasterised lighting just looks ancient.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 12:43    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Btw you can enable ray reconstrunction without path tracing

\AppData\Local\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077\UserSettings.json

Quote:
"name": "DLSS_D",
"type": "bool",
"value": true,
"default_value": true


If you disable DLSS in game and enable it will resetted.


That actually works?
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 12:54    Post subject:
It is supposed to work, or atleast people says so, haven't tested it myself since im at work.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 12:57    Post subject:
Anyone's CPU melt?

Highest I have seen is ~70
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 14:27    Post subject:
Why is the game using DLSS 3.1.1.0 if the Ray Reconstruction thing is supposedly a 3.5.0.0+ feature?


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 14:30    Post subject:
Maybe the same reason some bugs from 3 years ago still exist - incompetence

Even with 3.5 it bugs out sometimes: https://i.imgur.com/q7nORWi.jpg

Might go back to Starfield Crying or Very sad until the DLC hits and hopefully some more fixes are made
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 14:47    Post subject:
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Maybe the same reason some bugs from 3 years ago still exist - incompetence

Even with 3.5 it bugs out sometimes: https://i.imgur.com/q7nORWi.jpg

Might go back to Starfield Crying or Very sad until the DLC hits and hopefully some more fixes are made


What is happening in the picture?
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 14:56    Post subject:
No idea, it's like a grain/over sharpening effect

It appears on the rear of signs most of the time, but here it took over the whole screen. A reload fixes it
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 15:08    Post subject:
it crashes 9/10 times i go from benchmark back to main menu, or from a game Rolling Eyes

It looks good, maybe apart from the lighting which i often think looks fake inside the city, it's extremely dark during the day, but sure those big buildings does block a lot of light i guess.

Gonna be interesting to see it in HDR again once i receive my replacement monitor, thought it looked way better on the coolermaster than on this asus with poor black level and no HDR..
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 16:00    Post subject:
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russ80 wrote:
Waiting on the yarr to test with my 4090..


Was 19 USD such a massive hole in your budget?!

Facepalm Laughing


Currently yes.

Iphone 15 for the wife just today .

Also 19? Saw it at 35 cheapest on legit sites.

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tet666 wrote:
Nvidia monkey paw no ray reconstruction is not 4xxx cards only but it's locked behind path tracing which runs like shit on anything not able to generate fake frames to compensate sigh dunno what i was even expecting.


Why would you want it? It makes my 165hz monitor feel like some cheap ghosting panel. Ghosting everywhere. And:



Look at the female cop's face + the cook on the right. Everything looks unnatural when it's on.

I'm not sure if I'll keep pathtracing on either:

No RT: 205FPS
RT: 140FPS
RT path: 109FPS (but feels laggy)


Something is wrong there. Either RR is indeed busted or something on your end. They were especially ‘proud’ of how much better faces would look. Also the rest looks worse and blurrier which again should not happen and can be seen in all videos how RR makes everything sharper as well. Is it PT without RR vs PT with RR or RT normal without RR sv PT with RR in your pics?


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 16:24    Post subject:
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Anyone's CPU melt?

Highest I have seen is ~70


Pathcrap + 13600k + 3070Ti + Dark Rock Pro 4 + GPU & CPU downvolted = 89-90 deg.

Ultra settings + RTX Ultra (no PT) = 68-81 deg.

(HDR / cap FPS @ 60):

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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 17:09    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:

Currently yes.

Iphone 15 for the wife just today .

Also 19? Saw it at 35 cheapest on legit sites.




1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 17:16    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
russ80 wrote:
Waiting on the yarr to test with my 4090..


Was 19 USD such a massive hole in your budget?!

Laughing


Currently yes.

Iphone 15 for the wife just today .


Very... 'revealing' information. Laughing

I could... /sigh ... you know... lend you some money so you can buy this damn game (I got it for 20 USD on Gamivo or HRK iirc).

It's totally worth it, friend! 👍


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tet666




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 17:29    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Btw you can enable ray reconstrunction without path tracing

\AppData\Local\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077\UserSettings.json

Quote:
"name": "DLSS_D",
"type": "bool",
"value": true,
"default_value": true


If you disable DLSS in game and enable it will resetted.


Yeah this works benchmark shows it as enabled as well, but it looks and runs worse then without it for me so yeah there is no point to it atm it really seems to be optimized for path tracing only and even there it looks a bit shit at times.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 18:25    Post subject:
The game is fixed.®



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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 18:39    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
russ80 wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:


Was 19 USD such a massive hole in your budget?!

Laughing


Currently yes.

Iphone 15 for the wife just today .


Very... 'revealing' information. Laughing

I could... /sigh ... you know... lend you some money so you can buy this damn game (I got it for 20 USD on Gamivo or HRK iirc).

It's totally worth it, friend! 👍


Heh funny Cool Face more like different prios, using cp2077 more like looking at the pretty graphics than playing the game. Plus too much money burnt on recent releases which i’ll never play again ( diablo4 premium ..) just not worth it imo.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 20:06    Post subject:
D4 started out VERY promising.

This game, is a very cool story-driven action game with RPG elements. 100% 'wab' on discount.

But it's still not that... special open world, highly interactive, immersive-sim game that I hoped it to be.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2023 20:29    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
D4 started out VERY promising.

This game, is a very cool story-driven action game with RPG elements. 100% 'wab' on discount.

But it's still not that... special open world, highly interactive, immersive-sim game that I hoped it to be.


Honestly CDPR was always bad at making open-world games. They make great story driven AAA RPGs as you said and that's about it.
Personally i don't really mind since that's exactly what i want from an RPG but i never really liked open world games all that much anyway.
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