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tonizito
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 14:00    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
yes, surely my first bethesda game Laughing

don't worry, i am capable of basic math, even still i don't think its the polygon count of clutter that is driving poor frame rates.
can't imagine the 4090 is struggling here with clutter? i find it unlikely even a 2070 will be hitting anywhere near its polygon budget. you might recover ~5 fps in certain situations, but as far as optimizations go, this one is not a gotcha.

it's not hard to test, pick it all up Laughing
How sad is it that they conditioned us to start this discussion from the absolute top, with a 4090 Laughing
I was thinking of my 3070 and similar cards getting absolutely crippled by that, didn't even think of a 4090. But fair enough, you're probably right.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 14:20    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw


Why
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jermore




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 15:35    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
How sad is it that they conditioned us to start this discussion from the absolute top, with a 4090 Laughing
I was thinking of my 3070 and similar cards getting absolutely crippled by that, didn't even think of a 4090. But fair enough, you're probably right.

well any card from the past five years should be alright. a gtx 580 released 13 years ago could push ~33 million polygons at 60 frames per second.. i probably don't need to spell out what the 4090 is capable of.
although i wish i could, no one actually measures any more because it's so irrelevant Laughing

in any case i'm quite sure that's not why your 3070 is struggling.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 15:36    Post subject:
A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc


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jermore




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 15:39    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:
A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc

can't wait for modders to build some real cities honestly, damn these feel miniature
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 16:07    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
Am I nuts or is this shit broken?



It has been happening a lot of the past 3-4 days. Thought I was imagining it at first

never seen it, 120 hours Laughing
are you using the perk where you remove digikeys?

This has happened to me only twice, both times were after I had clicked the "undo" button a few times. I'm at rank 3 also, don't have the remove unused keys ability yet.
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jermore




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 16:17    Post subject:
dataschmuck wrote:
jermore wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
Am I nuts or is this shit broken?

It has been happening a lot of the past 3-4 days. Thought I was imagining it at first

never seen it, 120 hours Laughing
are you using the perk where you remove digikeys?

This has happened to me only twice, both times were after I had clicked the "undo" button a few times. I'm at rank 3 also, don't have the remove unused keys ability yet.

yeah i didn't see the point in that final rank so i wondered if it was that, i guess not. i never use undo (maybe once, but usually if i fuck something up i'll start from scratch to save digis)
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 19:57    Post subject:
I'm getting 2 fps on 16x resolution. Terrible optimalization!
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 20:48    Post subject:
While it looks good, the problem is something with mods and reshades like this is that it becomes waay too dark in certain settings
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 20:56    Post subject:
Just slap contrast to 200% and all are "wow" Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 22:10    Post subject:
over exposure? You mean my dick is hanging out?

How to play this game:
1. Yarr
2. Download FLiNG Trainer
3. Set XP multiplier to x10 or x15
4. Disable crafting requirements (Hurr durr u need 80hrs of resource gathering and manifacturing to get this super special ingredient number 9694484 to make gun 3% more accurate)
5. Enable easy research
6. Player.additem digipicks

How to add land vehicules to Starfield:
1. Set game speed multiplier to x4 (hurr durr but walking emptyfield is so immersive)

About those powers tho, are they even trying? Laughing
> do the same space dance for a thousand times
> u can now fart space dust and resurrect an alien

I don't call this cheating, I call this needless padding for analytics counter-measures.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 22:39    Post subject:
TCL
TGM
player.setav speedmult 4000

have fun Razz

(seriously though, if enjoying the game, don't do it.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 22:51    Post subject:
No god mode no noclipping because that's just game breaking what I'm doing is game fixing Cool Face

Things I enjoy doing this game are mainly enemy encampment type missions, some campaign missions and the very few misc missions that stand out and aren't plain fetch quests. Crimson fleet campaign is probably the best. (still none offer u much in term of freedom of choice)
one misc mission that surprised me in particular is in gagarin:
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So far I haven't encountered any other mission with as much leeway and adaptability. Most NPC's are unkillable and choices cater to nice guy and "sarcastic" nice guy.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 22:59    Post subject:
Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster and much more

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/09/xbox-leak-unveils-new-bethesda-games-including-doom-dishonored-fallout-and-oblivion

Leaked Microsoft documents reveal 2028 next generation Xbox console release plan

https://www.eurogamer.net/leaked-microsoft-documents-reveal-2028-next-generation-xbox-console-release-plan


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:02    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw


Why


because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:

1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.

anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:32    Post subject:
^^^^^good video.
So you nderpia fucks, where is the magic game ready driver?! Mad
Apparently the new one doesn't have much gains, at least according to some 4090 derps.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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jermore




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:43    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Amadeus wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw


Why


because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:

1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.

anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.

honestly you would think nvidia would send out teams of engineers to get dlss running in every big release but they just don't seem to care about anything unless it has raytracing

either way amd remains a class act who doesn't stoop to acting like trash unlike certain other companies and thankfully the noise campaign against them evaporated when the game released, along with most of the other dumb hot takes prior to release.

also that's a good game
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:50    Post subject:
nvidia cares about AI now. Gaming is become less and less of a priority for them unless it's an RTX sell your kidneys 90
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 12:18    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:
A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc


That was the case when Bethesda was leading in making a RPG world bigger and better. Now they are behind in tech, why bother modding this shit.
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jermore




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 12:28    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
maul_inc wrote:
A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc


That was the case when Bethesda was leading in making a RPG world bigger and better. Now they are behind in tech, why bother modding this shit.

because the modding system destroys other games wholesale Laughing

what other games are we going to mod?
most other engines are notoriously difficult to mod and few of them have such wealth of features or flexibility, even if said features don't amaze in 2023.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 13:00    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
While it looks good, the problem is something with mods and reshades like this is that it becomes waay too dark in certain settings


Yea, well. The truth about that though is that this particular mod (and other neutral Lut mods) don't change the lighting at all, not the base lighting

So there are always crushed lows and highs in this game, but usually with some hazy LUT on top of it that makes it appear brighter, but the amount of information is the same

Can't fix that without a lighting remake mod

But I'd rather have the same lighting with 0-255 RGB values rather than 16-235 or something (though it varies from LUT to LUT)

For that the mod I posted is the best, he literally converts every LUT into a 3D cube and stretches the values uniformly with respect to original saturation and apparant brightness/darkness, just full 0-255

The other LUT mods are garbage in comparsion. Amateur shit basically
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 13:07    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Amadeus wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw


Why


because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:

1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.

anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.


Nigga you high? You talking facts and post a MLID vid?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a7OWkeyHcdFgoQ395zmi7RlWluAKCv9bG_2silBQU5Q/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Even the more hardcore AMD fanboys are starting to accept that MLID just makes shit up

Please don't watch MLID it's a waste of time unless you are watching him because you prefer the "realities" he establishes, which ofc is it's own problem...

jermore wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Amadeus wrote:


Why


because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:

1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.

anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.

honestly you would think nvidia would send out teams of engineers to get dlss running in every big release but they just don't seem to care about anything unless it has raytracing

either way amd remains a class act who doesn't stoop to acting like trash unlike certain other companies and thankfully the noise campaign against them evaporated when the game released, along with most of the other dumb hot takes prior to release.

also that's a good game


tonizito wrote:
^^^^^good video.
So you nderpia fucks, where is the magic game ready driver?! Mad
Apparently the new one doesn't have much gains, at least according to some 4090 derps.


Y'all heaving your heads up too far your own arses if you think that some billion dollar company is pure evil while the other is surely on your side and your friend.

That sort of tribalism will get you nowhere in life, no matter how good it feels.

The truth is they are both shit companies, but at least most Nvidia and Intel users know this and are just in it for the products, not the.. whatever the fuck this is. The cope? The "I am on a team, and it feels good! ROOTING FOR THE GOOD GUYS/UNDERDOGS"

Remember what Robert California said about what kind of people root for an underdog.
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jermore




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 13:22    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Amadeus wrote:


Why


because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:

1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.

anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.


Nigga you high? You talking facts and post a MLID vid?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a7OWkeyHcdFgoQ395zmi7RlWluAKCv9bG_2silBQU5Q/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Even the more hardcore AMD fanboys are starting to accept that MLID just makes shit up

Please don't watch MLID it's a waste of time unless you are watching him because you prefer the "realities" he establishes, which ofc is it's own problem...

jermore wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:


because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:

1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.

anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.

honestly you would think nvidia would send out teams of engineers to get dlss running in every big release but they just don't seem to care about anything unless it has raytracing

either way amd remains a class act who doesn't stoop to acting like trash unlike certain other companies and thankfully the noise campaign against them evaporated when the game released, along with most of the other dumb hot takes prior to release.

also that's a good game


tonizito wrote:
^^^^^good video.
So you nderpia fucks, where is the magic game ready driver?! Mad
Apparently the new one doesn't have much gains, at least according to some 4090 derps.


Y'all heaving your heads up too far your own arses if you think that some billion dollar company is pure evil while the other is surely on your side and your friend.

That sort of tribalism will get you nowhere in life, no matter how good it feels.

The truth is they are both shit companies, but at least most Nvidia and Intel users know this and are just in it for the products, not the.. whatever the fuck this is. The cope?

amd fanboy here, no idea who this guy is, but it's hilarious someone spent the time writing up an essay on this 'MLID' shit Laughing hilariously autistic i mean

Amadeus wrote:

Y'all heaving your heads up too far your own arses if you think that some billion dollar company is pure evil while the other is surely on your side and your friend.

while all companies are for-profit, some simply have no integrity

amd have been amazing given how competitive the field is and while it doesn't mean they won't instantly turn nasty given the opportunity, i'd put them leagues above intel and nvidia's usual M.O
if you want to treat them all the same go ahead but i don't root for amd because they're an underdog or my friend, i root for them because they dont consistently fuck others over while putting out decent products. i'd likely not care at all about amd if they didn't develop ryzen honestly, but it still wouldn't change how shitty nvidia and intel are in comparison Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 00:30    Post subject:
Not sure what nVidia's excuse was or what has really happened, but the DLSS3 mod was worked wonders for near 90hrs now

The LukeFZ one now has an in-game menu:

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/761

 Spoiler:
 
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 15:04    Post subject:
so i decided to give base building a look and immediately regretted it due to the humongous amount of autism required to do it properly...

...then i found this video (mostly bc i liked the preview thumbnail)

Idea
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 15:29    Post subject:
Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 15:33    Post subject:
Is there a point in building those outposts, besides the 'pleasure' of simply... building something?


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