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tonizito
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 14:00 Post subject: |
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jermore wrote: | yes, surely my first bethesda game
don't worry, i am capable of basic math, even still i don't think its the polygon count of clutter that is driving poor frame rates.
can't imagine the 4090 is struggling here with clutter? i find it unlikely even a 2070 will be hitting anywhere near its polygon budget. you might recover ~5 fps in certain situations, but as far as optimizations go, this one is not a gotcha.
it's not hard to test, pick it all up  | How sad is it that they conditioned us to start this discussion from the absolute top, with a 4090
I was thinking of my 3070 and similar cards getting absolutely crippled by that, didn't even think of a 4090. But fair enough, you're probably right.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 14:20 Post subject: |
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AmpegV4 wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw |
Why
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 15:36 Post subject: |
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A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc
"Sometimes when you do things right, people are not sure you've done anything at all." -- God (Futurama)
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 15:39 Post subject: |
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maul_inc wrote: | A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc |
can't wait for modders to build some real cities honestly, damn these feel miniature
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 19:50 Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 19:57 Post subject: |
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I'm getting 2 fps on 16x resolution. Terrible optimalization!
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 20:45 Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 20:48 Post subject: |
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While it looks good, the problem is something with mods and reshades like this is that it becomes waay too dark in certain settings
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 22:51 Post subject: |
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No god mode no noclipping because that's just game breaking what I'm doing is game fixing
Things I enjoy doing this game are mainly enemy encampment type missions, some campaign missions and the very few misc missions that stand out and aren't plain fetch quests. Crimson fleet campaign is probably the best. (still none offer u much in term of freedom of choice)
one misc mission that surprised me in particular is in gagarin:
Spoiler: | the one where you're sent by some corpo lady to retrieve a stolen slate, but the game by some miracle gives you the option to screw both the kidnapper and the corpo lady to double dip on payment. I was surprised the game let me kill the kidnapper after agreeing to his plan, then return with the slate and get paid by corpo lady and lie about the kidnapped idiot |
So far I haven't encountered any other mission with as much leeway and adaptability. Most NPC's are unkillable and choices cater to nice guy and "sarcastic" nice guy.
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Posted: Tue, 19th Sep 2023 22:59 Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:02 Post subject: |
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Amadeus wrote: | AmpegV4 wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw |
Why |
because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:
1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.
anyway crap game, i'll show myself out.
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tonizito
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:32 Post subject: |
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^^^^^good video.
So you nderpia fucks, where is the magic game ready driver?!
Apparently the new one doesn't have much gains, at least according to some 4090 derps.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:43 Post subject: |
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AmpegV4 wrote: | Amadeus wrote: | AmpegV4 wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw |
Why |
because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:
1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.
anyway crap game, i'll show myself out. |
honestly you would think nvidia would send out teams of engineers to get dlss running in every big release but they just don't seem to care about anything unless it has raytracing
either way amd remains a class act who doesn't stoop to acting like trash unlike certain other companies and thankfully the noise campaign against them evaporated when the game released, along with most of the other dumb hot takes prior to release.
also that's a good game
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 11:50 Post subject: |
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nvidia cares about AI now. Gaming is become less and less of a priority for them unless it's an RTX sell your kidneys 90
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 12:18 Post subject: |
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maul_inc wrote: | A bethesda game is basically just framework for modders to go nuts and create actual fun things. The games themselves are forgettable piles of poop with Goober faces on every npc |
That was the case when Bethesda was leading in making a RPG world bigger and better. Now they are behind in tech, why bother modding this shit.
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 13:00 Post subject: |
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Stormwolf wrote: | While it looks good, the problem is something with mods and reshades like this is that it becomes waay too dark in certain settings |
Yea, well. The truth about that though is that this particular mod (and other neutral Lut mods) don't change the lighting at all, not the base lighting
So there are always crushed lows and highs in this game, but usually with some hazy LUT on top of it that makes it appear brighter, but the amount of information is the same
Can't fix that without a lighting remake mod
But I'd rather have the same lighting with 0-255 RGB values rather than 16-235 or something (though it varies from LUT to LUT)
For that the mod I posted is the best, he literally converts every LUT into a 3D cube and stretches the values uniformly with respect to original saturation and apparant brightness/darkness, just full 0-255
The other LUT mods are garbage in comparsion. Amateur shit basically
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 13:07 Post subject: |
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AmpegV4 wrote: | Amadeus wrote: | AmpegV4 wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzAeJjN0Kw |
Why |
because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:
1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.
anyway crap game, i'll show myself out. |
Nigga you high? You talking facts and post a MLID vid?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a7OWkeyHcdFgoQ395zmi7RlWluAKCv9bG_2silBQU5Q/edit?pli=1#gid=0
Even the more hardcore AMD fanboys are starting to accept that MLID just makes shit up
Please don't watch MLID it's a waste of time unless you are watching him because you prefer the "realities" he establishes, which ofc is it's own problem...
jermore wrote: | AmpegV4 wrote: |
because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:
1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.
anyway crap game, i'll show myself out. |
honestly you would think nvidia would send out teams of engineers to get dlss running in every big release but they just don't seem to care about anything unless it has raytracing
either way amd remains a class act who doesn't stoop to acting like trash unlike certain other companies and thankfully the noise campaign against them evaporated when the game released, along with most of the other dumb hot takes prior to release.
also that's a good game |
tonizito wrote: | ^^^^^good video.
So you nderpia fucks, where is the magic game ready driver?!
Apparently the new one doesn't have much gains, at least according to some 4090 derps. |
Y'all heaving your heads up too far your own arses if you think that some billion dollar company is pure evil while the other is surely on your side and your friend.
That sort of tribalism will get you nowhere in life, no matter how good it feels.
The truth is they are both shit companies, but at least most Nvidia and Intel users know this and are just in it for the products, not the.. whatever the fuck this is. The cope? The "I am on a team, and it feels good! ROOTING FOR THE GOOD GUYS/UNDERDOGS"
Remember what Robert California said about what kind of people root for an underdog.
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Posted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 13:22 Post subject: |
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Amadeus wrote: | AmpegV4 wrote: |
because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:
1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.
anyway crap game, i'll show myself out. |
Nigga you high? You talking facts and post a MLID vid?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a7OWkeyHcdFgoQ395zmi7RlWluAKCv9bG_2silBQU5Q/edit?pli=1#gid=0
Even the more hardcore AMD fanboys are starting to accept that MLID just makes shit up
Please don't watch MLID it's a waste of time unless you are watching him because you prefer the "realities" he establishes, which ofc is it's own problem...
jermore wrote: | AmpegV4 wrote: |
because there was probably 20 pages of DLSS whining in this thread, now you can get the facts, apparently:
1. Nvidia drivers weren't ready for this game.
2. AMD didn't block or try sabotage DLSS lol.
3. Bethesda used Vulkan primarily for the engine and botched the code, then bought in AMD to help them fix it.
anyway crap game, i'll show myself out. |
honestly you would think nvidia would send out teams of engineers to get dlss running in every big release but they just don't seem to care about anything unless it has raytracing
either way amd remains a class act who doesn't stoop to acting like trash unlike certain other companies and thankfully the noise campaign against them evaporated when the game released, along with most of the other dumb hot takes prior to release.
also that's a good game |
tonizito wrote: | ^^^^^good video.
So you nderpia fucks, where is the magic game ready driver?!
Apparently the new one doesn't have much gains, at least according to some 4090 derps. |
Y'all heaving your heads up too far your own arses if you think that some billion dollar company is pure evil while the other is surely on your side and your friend.
That sort of tribalism will get you nowhere in life, no matter how good it feels.
The truth is they are both shit companies, but at least most Nvidia and Intel users know this and are just in it for the products, not the.. whatever the fuck this is. The cope? |
amd fanboy here, no idea who this guy is, but it's hilarious someone spent the time writing up an essay on this 'MLID' shit hilariously autistic i mean
Amadeus wrote: |
Y'all heaving your heads up too far your own arses if you think that some billion dollar company is pure evil while the other is surely on your side and your friend. |
while all companies are for-profit, some simply have no integrity
amd have been amazing given how competitive the field is and while it doesn't mean they won't instantly turn nasty given the opportunity, i'd put them leagues above intel and nvidia's usual M.O
if you want to treat them all the same go ahead but i don't root for amd because they're an underdog or my friend, i root for them because they dont consistently fuck others over while putting out decent products. i'd likely not care at all about amd if they didn't develop ryzen honestly, but it still wouldn't change how shitty nvidia and intel are in comparison 
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Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 00:30 Post subject: |
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Not sure what nVidia's excuse was or what has really happened, but the DLSS3 mod was worked wonders for near 90hrs now
The LukeFZ one now has an in-game menu:
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/761
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tonizito
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Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 15:29 Post subject: |
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boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 15:33 Post subject: |
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Is there a point in building those outposts, besides the 'pleasure' of simply... building something?
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Posted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 16:40 Post subject: |
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