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Interinactive
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Aug 2023 12:32    Post subject:
dabuzz0r wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
I reckon a remaster might still be on the way ImmOOO

They specifically state this is for PS4/Switch, so when the remaster comes they can make people double dip on the PS5/XB/PC versions. Or maybe even triple dip and hold PC back even later.

Some pretty fucking lame shit, either way

Yeah but a PS5 can run PS4 games, so unless it's an actual remaster for latest gen it doesn't make much sense, doesn't the XB also have backwards compatibility with pretty much every Xbox games released?


That's right, a PS5 can run PS4 games. If they said it's for PS5 or hinted at it somehow being a PS5 version, they couldn't then come back a few months later announcing a remaster for PS5.

Since it's for a PS4, they can announce PS5 later and it won't be legal to complain
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Aug 2023 12:53    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Aug 2023 04:33    Post subject:
I think we knew this already Mack Laughing



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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 08:40    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/15xso9x/puredark_has_implemented_an_authentication_system/


everyone is up in arms about this guy charging for mods, but in this particular case RDR2 is actually littered with this garbage where at least half of the mods require you to shell out.
the sooner this sort of shit dies out the better.

hopefully the upcoming starfield doesn't end up infected with people clambering to make a buck instead of modders with decency.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 08:47    Post subject:
I think that modders should be rewarded for they work, talent, ability to improve gamers' experience.

Probably this guys' way is not the best way to cash in rewards for your work (from the user's pov), but something else should / could be implemented. And no, Nexus's way is far too primitive.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 08:50    Post subject:
He's being rewarded with ~$30k a month (at the very least)

https://www.patreon.com/PureDark

How greedy can one be?


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 08:50    Post subject:
You have no idea.

Or you do, if you decide to watch the news on TV.

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30k is not that much.

You can't afford a new fancy car each month, or a new apartment each month (for renting), or weekly trips to luxury resorts, or making substantial investments.

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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:02    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
I think that modders should be rewarded for they work, talent, ability to improve gamers' experience.

Probably this guys' way is not the best way to cash in rewards for your work (from the user's pov), but something else should / could be implemented. And no, Nexus's way is far too primitive.

i basically don't.

imagine trying to play modded morrowind where every second mod you install, you have to pay out and ultimately you end up paying hundreds of dollars for poorly supported mods to play a 10 dollar game Laughing
no one ends up playing mods due to barrier to entry fee and then no one ends up actually making mods. it's not a sustainable economy and i don't think it promotes anything fun about gaming.

when money starts getting involved, you get left with a very small modding elitist community where no one actually wins. if developers want to get paid, they can start a company like everyone else and license the product they're working with so that the real developer can make more games.

in b4 creation club Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:06    Post subject:
It flew right past you, because you - like many among us - take things for granted.

But that's okay.

Imagine saying "thanks" to modders, in an optional, fast, easy way, via a tip (even 0.10 USD) because you fucking enjoy the fruits of their labor. (and again, Nexus is not the solution for this)

Hm? Better?


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:24    Post subject:
Nexus is a good solution because you at least know where to look

Patreon sucks because there's no 1 place where you can find everyone. After Nexus told modders their files would always be archived (for collections), they splintered off into dozens of different Discord channels, patreons and whatever else, and suddenly you don't know where to look.

I started donating to this guy last month because he made an amazing Kar98 for FO4:

https://www.patreon.com/broodahood/posts

But it was only by chance that I saw this, in one of the 5 FO4 modding Discords I'm apart of, because nobody is covering it otherwise.

I've also donated to this guy more times than I can recall: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/users/8515543?tab=user+files

But if any of these people started putting authentication in, they can get fucked.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:25    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
It flew right past you, because you - like many among us - take things for granted.

But that's okay.

Imagine saying "thanks" to modders, in an optional, fast, easy way, via a tip (even 0.10 USD) because you fucking enjoy the fruits of their labor. (and again, Nexus is not the solution for this)

Hm? Better?

i don't take modding for granted because i've spent hundreds if not thousands of hours modding myself, but fucked if i am taking someone elses game and printing money from it for EZ bucks. i certainly don't want to see penny pinching infect modding or contribute to that mindset.

i also don't have any particular beef with asking for donations honestly, but once you start digging into reselling other peoples work with some shit slapped on it and in this case selling nvidia's own technology back to gamers like you are doing them some huge favor.. fuck that.
couple that with doubling down and adding some batshit DRM on your mod, i'm not too happy about that even if it doesn't directly affect me (i'm AMD Laughing), because this sort of shit affects the health of the modding community at large.

if you need money to make mods, what you need is a real job, not another way to skim another dollar off hobbyist gamers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:32    Post subject:
I get 200 euro/month from Nexus, i think that's great, for me it's a lot of money, it basically pays for food for 1 month.

I did purchase some RDR2 mods recently actually. One was just a list of mods, so not exactly what i thought it was. I do understand that it takes time to put a mod list together, buuut... Wasn't that useful for me, maybe saved me some time. i guess.

Another one was that RTGI shader. it looks rather good but i noticed visual errors with fog for example. Ended up not using it. Kind of expensive and really overrated.

Then i purchased LehZan reshade preset, the recent version looks great. worth the money for me.

It seems to be a thing mostly for GTA and RDR to have Patreon for mods. I remember way back in the days that people also profited of Sims 2 mods.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:33    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
Thanks for crushing my hopes for a remake on RDR2's engine rockstar.


Rockstar said you are welcome.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 09:54    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
I get 200 euro/month from Nexus, i think that's great, for me it's a lot of money, it basically pays for food for 1 month.


don't forget to add DRM and piss a whole lot of people off.

vurt wrote:

It seems to be a thing mostly for GTA and RDR to have Patreon for mods. I remember way back in the days that people also profited of Sims 2 mods.

i think it's usually the smaller and more closed communities where you get this sort of paywall forming. modders start thinking they are a rather special breed and the community as a whole suffers for it.
it's also quite bad in Rust where every server admin is coveting their basic as fuck Lua modifications like they are the second coming of god Laughing even though it has a massive playerbase, the mods are completely trash tier.
in the end, i think these games wind up with a very limited mod community because players who do not have disposable income are simply left in the dirt and these people also do not become future modders, instead they just move on to the next game.

And then you have the minecraft, elderscrolls, doom communities churning out infinite content and there are a lot of happy gamers. personally i'd prefer these sort of communities continue to develop and not the stunted paywall variety. i'm sure it's just my ungrateful nature at work though.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:02    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Nexus is a good solution because you at least know where to look

Patreon sucks because there's no 1 place where you can find everyone. After Nexus told modders their files would always be archived (for collections), they splintered off into dozens of different Discord channels, patreons and whatever else, and suddenly you don't know where to look.


Patreon is far from practical and Nexus is just... basic. Actually, Nexus - with their 'new' website - is pretty average. It's main 'win' is that it's been here since... forever.

There are better ways to manage this: more transparency, more visibility, more appreciation, better feed-back, better communication.

Pay me and I'll do it. It's in my line of work. Mobster with a Fag

SPOILER:

Nexus is 95% mods and 5% modders. You need a platform that is 50% modders and 50% mods, if you want to reward modders properly.

I know how to do it. If anyone is interesed, give me a shout. Laughing

It's a lot of work, but it's so damn satisfying knowing that people will be rewarded for their time, work and dedication...


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:04    Post subject:
how do you mean 5% modders? who makes the 95% mods if not modders?
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:06    Post subject:
It's the visibility and visual communication. It can be improved on Nexus massively.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:14    Post subject:
i still don't understand. How would you make modders more visible, and what would they even gain from it? I deal with daily interactions with people on my mod pages.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:24    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
i still don't understand. How would you make modders more visible, and what would they even gain from it? I deal with daily interactions with people on my mod pages.

and here is me praying no one says anything Laughing i hate doing support
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:25    Post subject:
They would gain more visibility.

It's a UI/UX thing, and how one uses content (visual) hierarchy to designate priorities on your website / platform.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:27    Post subject:
That wasn't a priority for the Nexus Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:32    Post subject:
I know.

It wasn't, but it should have been / be.

Times change, objectives change, everything changes...


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:35    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
vurt wrote:
i still don't understand. How would you make modders more visible, and what would they even gain from it? I deal with daily interactions with people on my mod pages.

and here is me praying no one says anything Laughing i hate doing support


Yeah free support isn't that fun. Or people basically asking you to spend hours doing tutorials for them of how things works.

I don't see any particular issue with Nexus. His one issue seems to be with the payouts which they do manually (it seems to be done by the owner himself, i've talked to him a few times) and it seems to take him weeks to do.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:37    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
I know.

Times change, objectives change, everything changes...

to be honest, before you pick holes in nexus and even stupid patreon, "a steam workshop needs your help".
i can't even find mods by searching for them directly Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:44    Post subject:
It's okay to not see the opportunities here.

Other people do / will do.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 10:58    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
It's okay to not see the opportunities here.

Other people do / will do.

if you think there is an actual opportunity, then maybe you should act on it.
modding websites are a dime a dozen and many have come and gone for a variety of reasons. but nexus is one of the few that are still here.

you'd be hard pressed to replace the nexus honestly. either way i'm sure they will get a new coat of paint eventually.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2023 11:03    Post subject:
You are right. Even thinking about it atm.

A mix of... multiple solutions / platforms. It's doable, but it's insane also...

It's a massive endeavor (a place where developers + modders + players come together). No such thing doing this properly atm.


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I decided to try the Switch version of RDR1 using the Switch emulator and it runs great. No issues or glitches, runs at an unlocked frame rate and performs better than the xbox/PS3 emulator, and also isn't hard to control with mouse and keyboard with the right settings(my DS4 died recently.)

Give it a shot if you want to play RDR1 on PC.

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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 16:42    Post subject:
Still holding out for a proper PC port, although that probably never happens.
This mod for 360 looks good too, https://gtaforums.com/topic/989469-rel-wip-rdr-reality-redemption-overhaul-project/

Waiting since 2010 for a PC port, can wait longer Laughing


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