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I just thought this would be a very interesting comparison to make:
Take a look at this screenshot (taken in 2004 as it states in the lower right).
Pay particular attention to the folliage/tree/stone/mushroom textures.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_pc/obliv01B.jpg
Now take a look at this screenshot (taken in 2006, NEARLY 2 years later).
Compare the textures in this one, what we are getting, to what they released 2 years ago.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_pc/obliv31B.jpg
Can someone say false fucking marketing? 
What happened Bethesda? How is it that 2 YEARS LATER..the textures got so much blander? 2 years is a long time in graphical standards, and yet.....such a decline.
Still looks nice sure, but I thought more people ought to be aware of the subtle tricks publishers/developers use in order to sell their games. Keep in mind, this was done imperceptibly over the span of 2 years, thus you really wouldn't notice it until you did a sidebyside comparison like this. Just food for thought.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 06:30 Post subject: |
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Looks the same to me. The newer one is a higher resolution so its easier to noticed more details. I think in the past 2 years, they've been working to make it playable. I'm sure the FPS was horrible back then. Don't compare Oblivion to itself 2 years ago to challenge the devs skill. Compare Oblivion to other games that have been released to measure the devs graphical improvenment (over other games or previously released Bethesda games)
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 06:31 Post subject: |
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Explain to me how this is a trick.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 06:47 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | I just thought this would be a very interesting comparison to make:
Take a look at this screenshot (taken in 2004 as it states in the lower right).
Pay particular attention to the folliage/tree/stone/mushroom textures.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_pc/obliv01B.jpg
Now take a look at this screenshot (taken in 2006, NEARLY 2 years later).
Compare the textures in this one, what we are getting, to what they released 2 years ago.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_pc/obliv31B.jpg
Can someone say false fucking marketing?
What happened Bethesda? How is it that 2 YEARS LATER..the textures got so much blander? 2 years is a long time in graphical standards, and yet.....such a decline.
Still looks nice sure, but I thought more people ought to be aware of the subtle tricks publishers/developers use in order to sell their games. Keep in mind, this was done imperceptibly over the span of 2 years, thus you really wouldn't notice it until you did a sidebyside comparison like this. Just food for thought. |
The 2006 pictures is what, 3 x as big as the 2004 one, of course it wont look exactly as sharp or as good. Compare your 2004 screen to http://media.pc.ign.com/media/702/702491/img_3442822.html instead, really good texture on that tree even up close.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 06:49 Post subject: |
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| Quickstar wrote: | | Explain to me how this is a trick. |
Perhaps trick wasn't the right word.
More of a "graphically misleading representation of obtainable/playable graphics.".
I mean c'mon, think back to your PC specs in 2004. There is no way in HELL you would be getting more than 5 fps in that STANDING STILL. Even today, graphics like that demand a pretty high end PC to obtain PLAYABLE framerates. And that's two years later.
That doesn't seem just a LITTLE BIT underhanded and dirty to you Quickstar? Not a little bit?
C'mon now...all bias towards the greatness of this title aside...you have to admit that's kinda low on Bethesda's part. Not that other devs. don't do it, but I don't know, I just kinda expected better of them.
By the way, was Bethisda always owned by Zenimax Media....or did they sell out?
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 06:52 Post subject: |
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..the viewing distance of foliage / grass is also much improved in the new screenshots, just look at the grass in the 2004 screen, really bad viewing distance of it.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 07:05 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | I just thought this would be a very interesting comparison to make:
Take a look at this screenshot (taken in 2004 as it states in the lower right).
Pay particular attention to the folliage/tree/stone/mushroom textures.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_pc/obliv01B.jpg
Now take a look at this screenshot (taken in 2006, NEARLY 2 years later).
Compare the textures in this one, what we are getting, to what they released 2 years ago.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_pc/obliv31B.jpg
Can someone say false fucking marketing?
What happened Bethesda? How is it that 2 YEARS LATER..the textures got so much blander? 2 years is a long time in graphical standards, and yet.....such a decline.
Still looks nice sure, but I thought more people ought to be aware of the subtle tricks publishers/developers use in order to sell their games. Keep in mind, this was done imperceptibly over the span of 2 years, thus you really wouldn't notice it until you did a sidebyside comparison like this. Just food for thought. |
2004 pic looks less realistic to me, grass has no variaty, too dense for a forest like that. 2006 pic on the other hand looks just like a real deal, grass is less dense, it is all kind of shapes and even has some mushrooms hiding in it 
And textures look the same.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 09:16 Post subject: |
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yay finally some idiot figured how to use the menu sreen from e3 preview..
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 09:22 Post subject: |
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People are getting very creative while they are waiting for games to come out. This thread can win every photoshop contest out there.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 09:24 Post subject: |
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Here you are.
-=System requirement=-
Minimum: Pentium 4 or Athlon XP or better
Minimum: 2 GHz
Minimum: 512 MB
Minimum: Windows 2000/XP/XP 64-bit
Minimum: 128MB Direct3D compatible video card (NVIDIA GeForce FX+ / ATI Radeon 9500+)
Minimum: DirectX 9.0c (included on disk)
Minimum: 4.6 GB
Minimum: 8X DVD-Rom
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 10:00 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 10:43 Post subject: |
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YeaY ....................................................................................... this is worse then anything in the world and its calld wating
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 10:44 Post subject: |
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Actually if you look at the world, there are utterly many things worse than waiting 
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 10:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 11:03 Post subject: |
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Dude, there are tons of games to play out there, don't tell me you are that braindead?
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 11:03 Post subject: |
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| Clevesa wrote: | | People are getting very creative while they are waiting for games to come out. This thread can win every photoshop contest out there. |
Very true that. It wont be long before someone posts an image and eventually it will turn out to be genuine but people will probably still dismiss it as a fake at first lol
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