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crossmr




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 07:44    Post subject:
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To the person who complained that Vista will be "full of DRM"... Calm down. It SUPPORTS DRMs but does not require them. Just as every OS will if it wants to be able to use Blu-Ray or HD DVD... Blame them, not MS. Fools

Actually this is the work of many organizations, however Vista supports DRM to a much higher level than previous operating systems AND pretty much every computer is ready for it now since companies like Intel have been building "trusted computing" into the hardware for some time now.

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To those people calling MS greedy: It is a corporation who's two jobs are A.) To provide a product to the customer and everything that goes with that, and B.) To earn money. What the hell is wrong with encouraging an OS upgrade by requiring a game to use it? I'd point out that the shit apple does is FAR worse. If you can't think of several fucked up things Apple has done, then you don't need to be in this argument.
Furthering a corporation is one thing. The way microsoft obliterates the competition is another. This doesn't encourage a good product for the consumer and discourages growth and innovation.

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3.) To those of you who claim Open Source is the next Messiah: Grow up. Sure it's free, and pretty stable, and maybe even more efficient, but please. Given the number of people who know how to use it, the lack of support for many games and apps, etc etc, it simply isn't worth it.. FOR MANY USERS. For you and others who use it, that's great. But don't try to force your own opinions down our throats.

Actually it is worth it. Whats not worth it about free? Considering just about everything can be run in linux and thats its growing constantly, its not really that far fetched. Did you notice IBM just switched its entire german operation to linux? Assuming that goes well you could expect them to begin making the switch elsewhere. There is more to linux that free open source programs and tree hugging. The point is the diversity. You have a lot more flexibility and variety in what you do, and they don't go about trying to crush each other to get to the customer.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 08:03    Post subject:
Damn. This has now changed from a Halo 2 thread to an OS thread. LOL. You gotta love it. Democracy and the freedom of speech is an awesome thing. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 08:40    Post subject:
Cheez-It wrote:
What a bunch of whiny anti-MS wankers

1.) To the person who complained that Vista will be "full of DRM"... Calm down. It SUPPORTS DRMs but does not require them. Just as every OS will if it wants to be able to use Blu-Ray or HD DVD... Blame them, not MS. Fools.

2.) To those people calling MS greedy: It is a corporation who's two jobs are A.) To provide a product to the customer and everything that goes with that, and B.) To earn money. What the hell is wrong with encouraging an OS upgrade by requiring a game to use it? I'd point out that the shit apple does is FAR worse. If you can't think of several fucked up things Apple has done, then you don't need to be in this argument.

3.) To those of you who claim Open Source is the next Messiah: Grow up. Sure it's free, and pretty stable, and maybe even more efficient, but please. Given the number of people who know how to use it, the lack of support for many games and apps, etc etc, it simply isn't worth it.. FOR MANY USERS. For you and others who use it, that's great. But don't try to force your own opinions down our throats.


Absolutely agree with you... the one point it all comes down to:
If you don't like Microsoft... why do you use their software? If Linux does provide you with all you want, why don't you just stay with it and let the others be with your hatred about a software you use every day but haven't paid a single cent for in your life?
I mean, that's just soooooo lame, stealing something and then complaining about it... i will never understand such people...
I for myself am really happy with my XP, and I sure am looking forward to Vista, even if it will for certain have some bugs when it's out (I mean: its an OS... the Software all other Software runs on... damn, its fucking clear that they can't foresee all problems there ever could be)

Now, back to topic:
Halo 2 was awesome. Period. And thats not just my opinion, many out there think it was one of the best (if not THE best) game on XBOX. I liked the story, the gameplay, the scenario... i still think the Halo games are the only FPS really worth playing on a console (well, besides Goldeneye perhaps, but that one is a little bit old). And I haven't heard many arguments why it should not be good... perhaps it should have been PS2 exclusive, then there would be a 20-pages-thread with people yelling for the release...
And it is absolutely legal and normal these days to release a title for a console exclusive, and perhaps release it years after for the PC... think about Sony and MGS or GTA for example...
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 12:20    Post subject:
i bet all of those who whine about M$ & Halo 2 will leech those fuckers,play,use & enjoy Razz

like Arni said


or better

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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 12:26    Post subject:
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deelix wrote:
I hope its gonna be haxored so people can play it on xp.. prolly someone will do that Very Happy
Vista its sucking up to much ram... i don't want it ^^

well Doom 3 or Quake 4 was unable to install on win2k & someone made a patch, so i'm sure it will be on xp too Wink :


I doubt it'll be that simple considering its going to be a directx 10 game Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 16:20    Post subject:
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If you don't like Microsoft... why do you use their software? If Linux does provide you with all you want, why don't you just stay with it and let the others be with your hatred about a software you use every day but haven't paid a single cent for in your life?

I've got my academic license for XP Pro on my bookshelf if you'd like to see it? I've got a couple other purchased OEM licenses here. I also need to use visio sparringly at college. I've tried Dia, but its not quite there yet (they've released a new version though, so maybe its finally come around). Though I don't have Windows on my laptop anymore, if I need to do something in Visio I do it at home. Next time don't be so quick to make assumptions.

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I mean, that's just soooooo lame, stealing something and then complaining about it... i will never understand such people...
I'm not complaining about the software or the product. I'm complaining about the company behind it. Two different things. I take little issue with XP. I game a lot so I need to keep windows around. If wine was a little more consistent, I would get rid of it.

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i bet all of those who whine about M$ & Halo 2 will leech those fuckers,play,use & enjoy
No, XP is going to be my last Windows home OS, not to mention I didn't really enjoy the first one.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 16:23    Post subject:
alright get back on topic now girls...stop the everlasting M$soft-OpenSource discussion.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Mar 2006 16:33    Post subject:
halo1 multiplayer was a rather bland experience. it was fun for about 2 weeks. now to make it vista only is a stupid move, as many wont upgrade that fast (for many reasons). im pretty sure they will make it winxp compatible. in terms of money making it would be more reasonable.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 10:27    Post subject:
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crossmr




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 15:07    Post subject:
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I hope its gonna be haxored so people can play it on xp.. prolly someone will do that Very Happy
Vista its sucking up to much ram... i don't want it ^^

Probably? So someone is essentially going to have to rewrite the game for that since halo will likely be DX10 and XP won't be able to use DX10..
keep dreaming..


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 16:00    Post subject:
Red_Thunder wrote:
No loss ...

imo Halo 1 was crap, and so will Halo 2

I agree. I could never figure out why everyone were raving about how great Halo was. It was a boring, repetitive game that didn't even look that good. As a matter of fact, it looked like crap. Halo was released in October 2003; FarCry in March 2004. Compare the two games and the difference looks more like two years, not just in the graphics, but the AI and the general gameplay as well.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 18:51    Post subject:
It was a fun game imo. I liked the way the energy was managed and the two weapon limitation. And we can´t forget that the game was released on the xbox in 2001, and at that time I think it was the first shooter to introduce the possibility of controling all the vehicles available. I agree that the game is linear, but it´s still fun and I liked the scenarios. Correct me if I´m wrong Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 19:43    Post subject:
SuTuRa wrote:
It was a fun game imo. I liked the way the energy was managed and the two weapon limitation. And we can´t forget that the game was released on the xbox in 2001, and at that time I think it was the first shooter to introduce the possibility of controling all the vehicles available. I agree that the game is linear, but it´s still fun and I liked the scenarios. Correct me if I´m wrong Smile

Yes, I'm sure it was a great game on the Xbox in 2001, but not two years later on the PC. Smile Just imagine how bad Quake2 would have looked if it was released two years later, a full year after Half-Life. They should have released the PC version of Halo at least a full year earlier.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 20:20    Post subject:
What was bad about Halo1 ?
It was a great game. Just sad it came to xbox first.
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crossmr




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 22:17    Post subject:
I wouldn't call it "great". It was honestly pretty standard if you compare it to other FPS. It was extremely linear, and nothing really stuck out with it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2006 23:24    Post subject:
Halo 2 was good until i got to the crappy ending Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 02:11    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
What was bad about Halo1 ?
It was a great game. Just sad it came to xbox first.

By the time Halo was released for the PC, first person shooters had gone way beyond the boring, linear gameplay of Halo, not to mention the ugla graphics. And the vehicles and such - not that great to be honest. Just compare Halo to FarCry, which was released three months later, and you'll see what Halo should have been like.

Sure, FarCry was linear too (most first person shooters are), but the great ones that stand out manage to mask that, either by having cool scripted sequences and totally new elements (like Half-Life) or they have other elements that make up for it (like FarCry, with great graphics, an interesting setting and good enemy AI). Halo had nothing of this, and was simply nothing more than a substandard sci-fi shooter, by the time they released it for the PC.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2006 10:27    Post subject:
i remember playing online halo1. at first i liked the multi vehicular fun which was somewhat innovative at that time..but after a week, it became very irritating with all the noobs bunny hopping, killing for vehicle, bombing own teams, etc and same reptitive maps.
I dont see halo 2 being groundbreaking and the fact it requires vista doesnt bode well.
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