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shadak
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anyone else getting a bug where your IMP merc name is always "unsupported UTF8 something skmething"? no matter what name i put in
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jul 2023 21:02 Post subject: |
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flt is bugged
choose another release or wait for proper
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jul 2023 23:04 Post subject: |
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I wanna like it but the mechanics and gameplay are subpar.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jul 2023 23:27 Post subject: |
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| madmax17 wrote: | | I wanna like it but the mechanics and gameplay are subpar. |
can you elaborate on that?
really curious
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 00:35 Post subject: |
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Had a lot of fun with JAG2 this one doesn't resonate the same, healing, inventory, UI, graphics, small maps, just not as good imo
Reparing in JAG2 you would simply set a 'repair guy' and he would repair everything, here you need to set items to be repaired.
You could buy cool guns and items at the webshop in JAG2 and have them delivered, that seems to be gone I am not sure how to buy anything now.
etc etc.. 
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prudislav
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 00:50 Post subject: |
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it was never gonna be the same similarly how modern Xcom is no way comparable to classic Ufo.... i am jusr glad JA3 is actually pretty great and not the abomination Back in Action and rage were
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 01:18 Post subject: |
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Would give it another go with a mod that gives you millions of dollars and a patched version.
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HubU
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 02:19 Post subject: |
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| HubU wrote: | | madmax17 wrote: |
You could buy cool guns and items at the webshop in JAG2 and have them delivered, that seems to be gone I am not sure how to buy anything now.
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Won't have the time to play it for a few days, but there's no Bobby Ray's? |
Nope, buying weapons and cool gadgets was half the fun in JAG  makes me wanna replay it right now. |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 03:12 Post subject: |
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Honest question.. why do the new iterations of these massive cult following titles change the gameplay? Why not just make JA2/XCOM enemy unknown with real time units in a 3d engine?
Just think, there are probably 20-30 game releases that all try to reinvent this formula dead and buried. Classic X-com still better than rng-xcom as well.
Just a bit disappointed to see this game also isn't really like JA2..
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HubU
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 03:40 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | Just a bit disappointed to see this game also isn't really like JA2.. |
Still haven't played it, but how can you fuck up a proven recipe?
3D? Dumbing down for... whatever audience that never ever even heard about JA, yet alone played it to bits?
Where's the good math, here?
Maybe, if it's lukewarm but heavily moddable, it might end up like HOI4 for me.
HOI4 + all DLCs? Hot fucking garbage.
HOI4 + DLC + BlackICE mod? Now we have the game as it should have been. Now worth every cent, yet no thanks to the official HOI4 team.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 05:53 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | Honest question.. why do the new iterations of these massive cult following titles change the gameplay? Why not just make JA2/XCOM enemy unknown with real time units in a 3d engine?
Just think, there are probably 20-30 game releases that all try to reinvent this formula dead and buried. Classic X-com still better than rng-xcom as well.
Just a bit disappointed to see this game also isn't really like JA2.. |
thats why im making my own haha
i like this so far, it oozes love and care but it is B-grade as fuck especially the controls/ui. its is dumbed down but better than recent attemps and the sectors are too small soo far
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Surray
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 07:06 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | You never know what to believe with performance. Some whine and complain about performance being absolutely horrendeous. Turns out 80 fps is like 40-60 too little. It's 120-144hz or nothing! And some have brains so slow that 30 fps is just perfecto! Ala Killercrocker. But he's far from alone in that regard. |
yeah I see that on steam review sometimes... many people just have no idea what their system is capable of, or should be capable of, so you get tons of conflicting info.
here there's definitely something wrong though I'd say. At least at default options
ryzen 3700x + 3080
2560x1440
when I first launched the game I had 40 fps in the main menu with 90% GPU utilization
that was mostly on max settings which was default
so I reduced some stuff to high and medium that seemed sensible, had around 50 ingame in the first mission with the GPU still going nuts
supposedly it should have DLSS available but it's not there in my menu
updated to the latest nvidia driver (mine was maybe 1-2 months old) but still no DLSS and same performance
friend of mine I tried playing coop with had it running at ~30 fps on his 2060
sucks that you only get 1 custom merc (the host) in coop
I also read autosaves overwrite manual saves? can't confirm
other than that, I thought it was fine, controlled fine, fairly snappy, shooting felt pretty good.
| AmpegV4 wrote: | | Honest question.. why do the new iterations of these massive cult following titles change the gameplay? Why not just make JA2/XCOM enemy unknown with real time units in a 3d engine? |
wonder about that too. Maybe hubris? I'm thinking of the classic "You think you want this but you don't"
or maybe recreating it the same over 3 years is just boring work so nobody wants to do it? But execs wouldn't care about that... I dunno.
I wish more good old games just got straight up cloned with just changes in setting, story, characters, environments, etc etc rather than trying to reinvent the wheel and failing again and again.
How many years did we have to wait for that proper dungeon keeper clone, war for the underworld? and it had to be fucking kickstarted...
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 07:22 Post subject: |
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Surray
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 07:33 Post subject: |
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| Silent_Lurker wrote: | @Surray DLSS 2 should be under AA settings, then reduce "actual" resolution setting as needed.
Shadows and reflections to medium helps a lot regarding performances. |
not for me I guess!
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I went ahead and set everything to low just to try, and performance increased like 8 fold (over 200 fps in main menu compared to 40 on default)
I guess some settings in there have an insane impact. I did not expect this.
now it looks like shit but at least I don't have an extra heater running which I really don't need this super hot weekend.
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 12:10 Post subject: |
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Just a heads up:
according to pcgamingwiki:
| Quote: | Issues unresolved
If the shadows setting is set to Ultra, regardless of the frame limiter or V-sync, the framerate is reduced by 30 FPS.[1] |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 14:16 Post subject: |
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Man, I want to like this but it just feels so soulless and janky. I don't really undestand how line of sight works or where it is safe to sneak or not. Guns are peashooters and even if I get the opener it feels like it's so hard to kill just one enemy while unloading all your squad's action points on them.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 15:24 Post subject: |
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I don't remember much about the OG JA games anymore, but tried the FLT release (which worked OK for me, no issues), and it feels so bland. I did the first couple of missions and there's pretty much no story. The same VO is played constantly. All cheap mercs can be ignored as they don't hit a fucking thing even if they have to shoot an elephant in front of their eyes. There doesn't seem to be much to do else. Just go to an area, kill whatever is in that sector, and move to the next. And after some days you have to renegotiate contracts. Some fun could only be had due to the AI shooting right through their own or grenading themselves to bits.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 16:33 Post subject: |
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I am stuck in the game, flea town, with the mine next to it, enemy just swarms you. In one compolete turn I am happy to get two hits in, they just shoot over half the map and through evey bit of cover along the way. Even went to forgiving mode, but it helps shit. They keep swarming and hitting you almost every shot.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jul 2023 19:24 Post subject: |
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| krackhead wrote: | | I am stuck in the game, flea town, with the mine next to it, enemy just swarms you. In one compolete turn I am happy to get two hits in, they just shoot over half the map and through evey bit of cover along the way. Even went to forgiving mode, but it helps shit. They keep swarming and hitting you almost every shot. |
Just did that mission. You mean the market part of flea town, right?
I attacked at night, sniper in the right hand house roof, rest on the left side.
Start action on left side, use liberal amounts of explosives (Barry is a big help).
Got 3 wounded but no big problem.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2023 16:03 Post subject: |
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You should be able to do it save scumming, there is enough RNG to exploit that way.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2023 16:37 Post subject: |
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was gonna try this but that rng nonsense like missing shots pointblank, purposefully frustrating mechanics for the masochists out there don't seem appealing to me.
I play games to have a certain level of predictable outcome if the circumstances make sense.
pass
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2023 17:17 Post subject: |
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Yup, same here.
Plus some other things like global timers and heavily relying on overwatch (from what I've seen), are old & tired mechanics, in my opinion.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2023 19:03 Post subject: |
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So far I enjoy it. My main gripes are stealth implementation. How every enemy has automatic weapons and small maps. The combat is really close to how it worked in original JA2. You just don't remember it.
There is more weight put on pre-fight postioning than in OG. It reminds me the map from JA2 with whorehouse where I choose to kill the gang ruling over city.
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Ankh
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2023 19:16 Post subject: |
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I like it as well. The combat is solid, the graphics are decent and the management and progression are quite satisfying.
I have a few gripes (so far):
- You can rarely buy ammo, no way to order it which is a weird implementation for a game revolving around a mercenary company
- The UI has its problems
- The stealth system needs some improvements
- The performance needs some tinkering
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jul 2023 19:33 Post subject: |
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I really enjoy it aswell, Haunted mansion went fine for me, maybe it's merc/weapon setup?
I have 2 silenced snipers with modded weapons(Dragunov/mauser) that generally headshot/oneshot most enemies(on normal), I rarely need to savescum either.
A hint on that mission is to find all the mines but not disarm before going into the cellar, I had disarmed them all but could see that making it easier.
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i run out of money just as im done with the first island. Then when i get to the next one, i end up in a cellar talking to a guy while lots of people wait outside to kill my team...and i cannot rest fully as im short on cash lol
