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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 19:45    Post subject:
Like one guy I know AE (theAEmix online name) Studies the specific effect of bioengineered bacteria on the lifespan and negative and positive effects of their metabolism on car and truck tire rubber. Did you even know that was one? I didn't until I met him. Its a specific degree and undergrad study for bioengineering on man made consumable materials.

And the whole 'scientist are woke idiots' is so far away from effecting, or impacting, or influencing his field that it might as well be on pluto.

That's just one of 10,000s.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 19:49    Post subject:
I don't think his career faces scrutiny or cancellation for showing results that goes against peoples beliefs. You understand this right DX?
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 19:53    Post subject:
Yes. And I am saying out of the 10,000 of them probably lets say to be generous, 9,960 of them do not either.
The only ones threatened with it, are the ones that study it. a very very small part of the whole that you happen to see, because its one of the very very few talked about. 0.04% is not a 'widespread issue of possible cancellation due to social climate, causing them all to be shams and fruads cucking to the masses'.
You understand this right?

I do not see your cause of point at all. People that study in a popular controversial field...are controversial. And? The other 99.4% are not. So stick to the specific of those fields and not "Sciences as a whole are simping frauds".


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 19:56    Post subject:
I'm saying i trust people who research things like you mentioned a heck of a lot more than people studying trendy and controversial stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 19:56    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 19:59    Post subject:
Why would he publicly say it? He has no reason to...?
If he did it would be because he wants to do the "I R IMPORTANT, listen to science man on opinions I have."

To do so would be retarded, useless, pointless, and no reason other than to soapbox.
I guess my point is WHY would a bioengineer need to publicly state his stance on it. Unless it was for the same reason you hate those for it do it: To peacock around for the masses a thing that they personally hold true, just to make sure everyone hears it?

And even if he did. I'm 110% certain that Brendat Chemical would not fire him. As his stance has no bearing or impact on their studies or customers. Because he is not popular enough for anyone to care what he says. he can stand outside shouting it all day. He's a faceless nobody tucked away in a tire lab in Ohio.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 20:06    Post subject:
What's the point of studies if it's not gonna be publicized but instead be buried in the annals of forbidden knowledge and truth.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 20:09    Post subject:
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2023 21:07    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
why would he say it publicly? Some people aren't spineless cowards and are prepared to speak out against woke bs.

If the company received enough public backlash (which they would because wokemob = cancel culture) then yes, they would drop him like a sack of shit.

Maybe...some dont see it as a big enough deal to want to shout to the masses their opinions on it simply to state they are passionate about it to the world.

To be fair, is anyone here that is uber against it, went on a campaign to be widely publicly acknowledged for standing against it? Using your work and/or career that is in no way related to it as a starting platform to state your personal stance and stand against it? I haven't heard about any of you in the news/woke bubble making sure that the woke stays in check.
Why not? And If not, why would someone less passionate about it do so?
Stormwolf wrote:
What's the point of studies if it's not gonna be publicized but instead be buried in the annals of forbidden knowledge and truth.

His studies that are published have no context or content about that subject. he would have to shoehorn it in on purpose and a lot of hard obvious attempts to add it for no reason.

To the point it would be almost an extreme like this: My findings indicate that nitrogen rich atmosphere that is above 30c is conducive to bacteria breaking down vulcanized rubber at an accelerated pace (ref #41), also there is only two documented genders that I can find reference to in the human species (ref #54).


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 07:12    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
vurt wrote:
Do you honestly think you can be a scientist in 2023 and have a completely other take on climate change, genders, BLM (or other hot MSM topics) that doesn't line up with the common consensus? Of course you cant! You will be cancelled and out of a job in no time.

yes...absolutely.


Why would a government who wants to put, let's say taxes or a restriction on something, want to fund science which goes against their own goal? What use would they be to them? Why would they continue to fund them?

If they're so unbiased, you really think Hitler's scientists were 100% unbiased? "But that is different!!" No it isn't and of course they weren't and it's no different who's in charge, it's always down to the politics.

The government is bending you over backwards and completely ass fucking all of you retards with their taxes, and restrictions while laughing at you (recently proven by Partygate - Boris and co. partying their ass off and laughing at the stupid covid restriction they put up).

MSM is your asshole stretcher, your buttplug if you will, the more you read of their garbage the bigger your tolerance for your ass fucking gets "oh, but it's for my own good!".
Grow a pair of balls and think for yourself, even if its just a tiny bit to start with and work on that and you will realize just how ass fucked you've been.

Whatever. this just makes me depressed to see how stupid people can get so i will not involve myself more and i can't chose what retarded garbage you chose to believe in but climate politics is possibly as dumb as its possibly gets since its been debunked again and again since the 70's (possibly earlier), and it just restarts again and people start to believe in it again. Creepy cult behavior. Greta has to remove old tweets because otherwise people will expose her lies for what it is, she said it would already be over for us, guess what, it was BS, like all the decades before it.

Climate politics and ideas around it changed during Trump btw. so i guess that must have been 100% unbiased too? "its only unbiased and truthful when it's something *I* voted for!" right?
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 09:08    Post subject:
All I can say is that I'm not surprised at all that we are divided like that. Time and time again the MSM has tried to manipulate people and omitted facts.
MSM in the west often don't lie outright but use more subtle methods. It's become patronizing and is nudging people towards the "correct" opinions. They squandered our trust. This started to really take off around 2011-2013, after the occupy movement.
I wouldn't be surprised if 25%-33% of the so called "conspiracy theories" will turn out to be true in the end. History will tell.
And there are people and organizations with an agenda out there, that will use climate change as a pretext to restrict and control us.
But that does not mean that it is not happening at all.
The earth climate IS getting warmer, whether you believe it is man-made or not, so I think it is prudent to prepare and adapt, because humans globally will not succeed in working together.
Being contrarian just for the sake of it will only get you so far.
The truth is somewhere between "everything they tell you is a lie" and "blindly trust the science"
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 09:32    Post subject:
Having worked with climate scientists, researchers etc. There isn't a debate in this community, they just say climate change is here and no one will do anything about it. I've not met anyone who's job it is to study and research the weather that even remotely thinks there is a counter argument, these are just candid conversations.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 10:31    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
DXWarlock wrote:
vurt wrote:
Do you honestly think you can be a scientist in 2023 and have a completely other take on climate change, genders, BLM (or other hot MSM topics) that doesn't line up with the common consensus? Of course you cant! You will be cancelled and out of a job in no time.

yes...absolutely.


Why would a government who wants to put, let's say taxes or a restriction on something, want to fund science which goes against their own goal?

Will snip here as the rest is enforcing the same question.

Yes...they would. And do all the time. For example its how we got unleaded gas regulation, smoking causes cancer to be revealed, and 99% of FDA regulations, coal and gas emission levels and many many more...(All started as counter to governmental beneficiary research. Yet they partially funded them)

Do they fund ALL of them? Or try to not influence some of them? Of course not. But you'd be surprised the ratio of ones that keep going, to the ones like that.
Not to mention, I think you think a LOT more research is govt funded/backed than there is. Much of it is trust/grant/donation funded than those by govt money. Most are at best govt supplemented as a minority of its funding. Most govt's world wide are WOEFULLY short and behind on money allocated to sciences from where they should be. Why they are funded the other ways I mentioned.

You should really look into how 'science' works, and is being done before speculating on hearsay, tin foil hat conventions, and dislike and/or ignorance of how it's actually being done based on vague blind assumptions of how you THINK it does.

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As for the 'MSM' you seemed to have missed my other post explaining long form how I do not use it, care for it, why I do not based on my job (working with most major newspapers) and how I approach viewing or reading them.
So you can stop using that red herring lazy retort of "OH you disagree? You must be a MSM sheeple" its tired, lazy, low effort attempt at dismissing by using an outside catch all culprit.
Throwing general [something something..you..MSM] as a retort to someone's reply does not work as the catch all dismissal you think it does.

vurt wrote:
"it's only unbiased and truthful when it's something *I* voted for!" right?
Nope there is tons of things that are true and I know they are, that I dont want, support, want to be true, or voted for. Yet they still are, and I admit they are, despite my dislike of them.
You don't have to like (or dislike) a thing to accept it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 16:40    Post subject:
If you want to save the climate, put more billionaires in DIY submarines steered by $10 game controllers.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 17:43    Post subject:
What? What's those got to do with each other? Would not putting them in it make the climate better, does putting them in it make the climate worse?
What kind of false equivalence is that?


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jun 2023 11:31    Post subject:
ITT : self-taught experts distrustful of trained experts


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