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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 16:33 Post subject: |
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exactly like expected imo. no way this was getting 9 or 10's.. doesn't mean it's bad though, a game like Gothic 2 averaged around 79 or so, for many that game is a classic.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 16:34 Post subject: |
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One review is calling lack of guidance "design jank of obtuse objective". We'll have to see ourselves how it feels to play. A lof of modern jornos are too young or too consolized to know this game, so you'll have tastes shaped entirely by modern designs, with all the help, automation and streamlining available trying to crack a pc game from 94 where even the devs themselves were scratching their heads in a youtube walkthrough, wondering why did they made everything so difficult.
Its entirely possible to go too far into making everything as confusing as possible to the point of being annoying and nonsensical. The original Unreal, while good overall, has a fuckton of levels where you just endlessly go in circles to the point of wanting to kill the designers until you find your way by mistake.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 16:37 Post subject: |
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Game feels indeed a 'bit' archaic.
Probably old farts will enjoy it, though. For nostalgic reasons.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 16:51 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | Game feels indeed a 'bit' archaic.
Probably old farts will enjoy it, though. For nostalgic reasons. |
And you're still in your teens i take it?
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 17:36 Post subject: |
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Been itching to play this forever, i just cant get over those hideous graphics from the original.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 17:50 Post subject: |
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It is a valid point of criticism these days whether you guys like it or not
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 17:56 Post subject: |
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It's not valid at all. This type of nonsense made it near impossible to design an actual PC game. You'll get floded on steam by people asking why is this game a pc game and they wont buy it until its turned into a console game.
Its horseshit.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:02 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | blackeyedboy wrote: | Game feels indeed a 'bit' archaic.
Probably old farts will enjoy it, though. For nostalgic reasons. |
And you're still in your teens i take it? |
Sometimes... happily... I actually am. |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:05 Post subject: |
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Don't be a fool. Your opinion means nothing at the end of the day. Most people these days play with a gamepad, gamepad is expected. Don't exactly have to be a mensa candidate to realize that.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:06 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | blackeyedboy wrote: | Game feels indeed a 'bit' archaic.
Probably old farts will enjoy it, though. For nostalgic reasons. |
And you're still in your teens i take it? |
Sometimes... happily... I actually am. |
Same. But then i talk to a teen an realize i'm happy i'm a boomer now
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:15 Post subject: |
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Teens need our help, old man.
They just don't know it yet.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:16 Post subject: |
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| VonMisk wrote: | | pho08 wrote: | https://opencritic.com/game/14989/system-shock-2023-remake-
first reviews are in  |
Most of the negatives state that the game has not enough QoL for today standards, whatever that means. Probably bad gamepad controls  |
so as expected bunch of zoomer crying its not guided like glorious asscreed |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:18 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Don't be a fool. Your opinion means nothing at the end of the day. Most people these days play with a gamepad, gamepad is expected. Don't exactly have to be a mensa candidate to realize that. |
Fortunately thats not true. Whenever i see a dev wanting to put out an actual PC game, i try to convince them that the controller croud is just vocal on steam, but their numbers are tiny. I remember when XCom 2 launched, pc only for a year, m/kb only. When they announced 900K copies sold, i looked at the two biggest controller begging threads on steam, and they numbered 600 posts at that time. Devs should never cave if they want to design a game around m/kb which doesnt translate to a pad.
But nightdive seem to just plaster some borderline nonfunctional pad support into their games, without compromising the game itself, like it seems to be the case here, so its good. Same was with the Quake release, the pad "support" was the player moving forward and backwards when you push the stick, otherwise nothing was done to actually work with all the tons of assists required. They changed it with multiple patches later
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:45 Post subject: |
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| qqq wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Don't be a fool. Your opinion means nothing at the end of the day. Most people these days play with a gamepad, gamepad is expected. Don't exactly have to be a mensa candidate to realize that. |
Fortunately thats not true. Whenever i see a dev wanting to put out an actual PC game, i try to convince them that the controller croud is just vocal on steam, but their numbers are tiny. I remember when XCom 2 launched, pc only for a year, m/kb only. When they announced 900K copies sold, i looked at the two biggest controller begging threads on steam, and they numbered 600 posts at that time. Devs should never cave if they want to design a game around m/kb which doesnt translate to a pad.
But nightdive seem to just plaster some borderline nonfunctional pad support into their games, without compromising the game itself, like it seems to be the case here, so its good. Same was with the Quake release, the pad "support" was the player moving forward and backwards when you push the stick, otherwise nothing was done to actually work with all the tons of assists required. They changed it with multiple patches later |
Steam probably only registers people playing with controllers in big picture mode
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 18:55 Post subject: |
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Can't even preload it, dafuq is this shit? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 19:13 Post subject: |
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fortunately it's only a 10gb download
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 19:53 Post subject: |
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| qqq wrote: | It's not valid at all. This type of nonsense made it near impossible to design an actual PC game. You'll get floded on steam by people asking why is this game a pc game and they wont buy it until its turned into a console game.
Its horseshit. |
I dont want to be sat at a desk when on down time. Used a mouse and keyboard since mid 80s and standardised console joypads were the best thing to ever happen to pc gaming in my opinion. Having to juggle a keyboard, mouse and controller (as i still frequently do) when comfortably lounging about on a bed or sofa is a pain.
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prudislav
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 20:01 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | | VonMisk wrote: | | pho08 wrote: | https://opencritic.com/game/14989/system-shock-2023-remake-
first reviews are in |
Most of the negatives state that the game has not enough QoL for today standards, whatever that means. Probably bad gamepad controls |
so as expected bunch of zoomer crying its not guided like glorious asscreed |
Yeah, probably not enough hand-holding and melodramatic Sonytelling for the journofolx. They would have loved the alternative concept, though  |
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M4trix
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M4trix
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 29th May 2023 21:48 Post subject: |
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 30th May 2023 09:19 Post subject: |
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anyone know where us backers will be getting the steam key? is it on kickstarter, are we supposed to register on Night Dive and get it there?
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