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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Mar 2023 17:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Mar 2023 20:42 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2023 12:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Apr 2023 15:20 Post subject: |
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/27.html
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Apr 2023 15:30 Post subject: |
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Time to buy a 500€ 8-core CPU in 2023
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Apr 2023 18:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Apr 2023 18:40 Post subject: |
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AMD made 5800X3D too good CPU, insane to see how good it still is, you can get mobo, cpu and ram for like half of the cost of AM5 7800X3D setup.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Apr 2023 20:09 Post subject: |
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It's the only regret I have with my 5900x, but I couldn't wait that long and gamble that the 5800X3D would be as good as it turned out to be 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Apr 2023 13:49 Post subject: |
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78003XD will be amazing gaming CPU when the price is around 350€. Until then there is very little reason to spend any extra money on it compared to eg. 5800X3D. Especially if you game on 1440p or 4K resolutions.
Ryzen 9800X3D CO ~-26/+200 | Freezer III 360 A-RGB & 3x Phanteks T30 | Strix X670E-F WiFi | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Ventus OC | Fury Beast 64GB (2x 32GB) DDR5 5600MHz C40 @ 6000MHz C28 | 970 EVO Plus 2 TB | 38GN950-B | S.M.S.L RAW-MDA1 & HiFiMAN Arya Organic | Lancool III Snow White + 4x be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4 140mm | RM1000x (2021) Gold | G Pro X SUPERLIGHT 2 & POWERPLAY | Win 11 Pro | Logitech MX MECHANICAL
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Apr 2023 00:31 Post subject: |
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example of these open world games ?
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2023 09:11 Post subject: |
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Games that are nicely multithreaded won't benefit in 3D cache in any way, but the truth is that many games are still unoptimized shit console ports. Escape from Tarkov is insane how much 3D cache can give performance, World Of Warcraft and other MMOs aswell, even at 4K the minimum fps boost is insane if your GPU is up for the task.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2023 15:56 Post subject: |
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It doesn't have anything do with with the thread count vs 3D cache, well only as a side effect or 'making up for' of it. The two are independent function of each other.
it's more how optimized the game is on organizing the data to process on the threads. 3D cache is 'sort of' like if a CPU had L4 cache, so the CPU doesn't need to reach out to the ram (Which is slower than cache) as often to pull in small chucks of data as often. So bottle neck becomes RAM -> random read/write memory address speeds.
Multithreaded only helps because it can process the unorganized/unoptimized data in more parallel paths. A game with multithread and utilizing the 3D cache would be better than just multithread. As it can store the data direct die and pull it faster to each thread.
3D cache would be slower if its already optimized well where more cache is a minor difference, and the lower clock speed of a 3D chip comes into play as the limiting factor.
And it can help in non-games in particular situations. Its called 3D cache not because it's for 3D applications, but because its installed vertically on the chip compared to L cache that is same plane as the rest. And AMD branded it 3D cache because of its orientation, not its purpose.
Not imply anyone here did or didn't know it. But surprising amount of gamer friends I have assume since it's called '3D' it must only be related to a gaming thing. Which I think is the marketing angle naming it that. As naming it for how its on the die, also lends to people mistakenly thinking its because of another reason.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2023 01:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2023 01:46 Post subject: |
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Still using the slow clunky Ryzen 7 1700 I got half a decade ago, it's still perfectly capable for multi tasking, gaming and work but it is showing its age with its clockspeeds at times.
Looked at AM5 and that's just a nogo, I've never seen mobos so ridiculously priced esp here that tech gets taxed twice + margins. 5000 series is priced really well however so I might look into that next year but even with first gen ryzen I'm not feeling a need for an upgrade.
I have a much better specced laptop but nothing beats the proper airflow and sturdiness of a desktop tower.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2023 10:26 Post subject: |
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Still using the 8700K which still packs a punch. I still haven't experienced any kind of CPU bottlenecks. In heavy games it's my 2060 that's bottlenecking (unless I use DLSS).
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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garus
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2023 10:55 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Apr 2023 13:01 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Still using the 8700K which still packs a punch. I still haven't experienced any kind of CPU bottlenecks. In heavy games it's my 2060 that's bottlenecking (unless I use DLSS). |
Becomes bottleneck when you have high refresh rate screen and beefier GPU.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Apr 2023 13:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Apr 2023 13:57 Post subject: |
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I upgrade CPU on gaming machine around every 8 years, don't have a problem with it. The right price to spend is around $400 USD imo as well.
I think i'm running around 8 webservers, a VM and Emby on a Ryzen 5 6-core and that's still overkill in CPU department.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Apr 2023 17:48 Post subject: |
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look at diablo reccomended specs, the cpu at the high and ultra setting remains the same, only the gpu changes, they want a 2700x , thats second gen ryzen ... from exactly 5 years ago ... april 2018 , in 2000 using a 5 year old cpu would be from stoneage haha like from 200 mhz to 2000 mhz difference
https://www.xfire.com/blizzard-confirms-pc-specs-for-diablo-4/ rofl, this site still exists, was top searchresult for diablo specs loool
Diablo 4: requirements for high performance
To enjoy Diablo 4 at 1080p and 60fps, but with all graphics settings set to high.
OS: Windows 10 64 bits or superior
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K or AMD Ryzen 2700X
Memory: 16 GB of RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 or AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
DirectX: version 12
Storage: SSD with 90 GB of available space
Diablo 4: requirements for Ultra 4k
Settings in ultra, 60 fps and 4K.
OS: Windows 10 64 bits or superior
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K or AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
Memory: 32 GB of RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080, a Series 40 NVIDIA GeForce RTX with support for DLSS3 or AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
DirectX: version 12
Storage: SSD with 90 of available space
i overheard an interesting discussion today about a public servant complaining his laptop request was being denied for being to expensive, a business laptop that needs to have all the "programs" running at same time cant be cheap, he laughed and felt offended when i said 400 eur ryzen sixcores ... thats not "business".
meanwhile for the last 3-4 years a ryzen can run anything ... people have no clue how much power current cheap budget laptops have, like ms office outlook n xcell needs a videocard and 8 cores roflol
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jackbomb
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Apr 2023 17:51 Post subject: |
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It's complete nonsense. My sturdy and trusty 2012 i5 laptop can still run everything (office package, Cubase 12, Ableton 11, Photoshop) properly with no slowdowns. Changed HDD to SSD five years back and it's virtually flawless.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 00:13 Post subject: |
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How many of us retired their 2500k in the last few year? I got rid of mine for a 3600XT in summer of 2020..... After having it OC'd to 4.X on an H80i for well over seven years.......
Who needs to upgrade processors every year with what we have now.... Its complete lunacy to move on after a few years because something new was released. I bet a Raspberry Pi would work for well over half the people that have desktops.......
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Apr 2023 08:40 Post subject: |
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Stige
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| Boiler wrote: | How many of us retired their 2500k in the last few year? I got rid of mine for a 3600XT in summer of 2020..... After having it OC'd to 4.X on an H80i for well over seven years.......
Who needs to upgrade processors every year with what we have now.... Its complete lunacy to move on after a few years because something new was released. I bet a Raspberry Pi would work for well over half the people that have desktops....... |
I went from 2500K to 8350K to current 13600K.
But then again I upgrade GPUs even less probably.
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DXWarlock
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you pay like double the amount for 20% performance increase.
