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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Aug 2022 23:11    Post subject:
kiwifarms lol
If anyone really *REALLY* wants it get it from here instead:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/woup7g/nexus_mods_removes_spiderman_mod_that_replaces/


HOWEVER it was precisely on kiwifarms that I've read a rumor that what the mod did was already done in the game's localization for the UAE and other similar "fun" countries. Would be hilarious if confirmed, but which journo tard and/or site would want to find itself on sony's crosshair's for investigating and pointing this out?


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Aug 2022 23:58    Post subject:
The PS4 didn't have that flag i think. I might be wrong though
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Aug 2022 02:08    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
kiwifarms lol
If anyone really *REALLY* wants it get it from here instead:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/woup7g/nexus_mods_removes_spiderman_mod_that_replaces/


HOWEVER it was precisely on kiwifarms that I've read a rumor that what the mod did was already done in the game's localization for the UAE and other similar "fun" countries. Would be hilarious if confirmed, but which journo tard and/or site would want to find itself on sony's crosshair's for investigating and pointing this out?


any jurno can do it. would be their last article, but it'll show the hypocrisy. but getting a UAE version would be difficult.

kia I haven't been since 2018 lol. they turned retarded painting every thing as an she bs.

kiwifarms did a nice write up on it, citing the articles and shit. even linked the archive.org of the file, not the page from what I've seen


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Aug 2022 09:52    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:

HOWEVER it was precisely on kiwifarms that I've read a rumor that what the mod did was already done in the game's localization for the UAE and other similar "fun" countries. Would be hilarious if confirmed, but which journo tard and/or site would want to find itself on sony's crosshair's for investigating and pointing this out?


But isnt those opposite of each other in purpose so not the same?
The UAE one is made not to offend by not including something in that version of the game (That them being offended is silly aside...the geopolitical and ideological world is what it is)

The mod one is made to offense by removing something already in that version of the game.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:38    Post subject:
Nexus released an official statement -

https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14733

Basically translates to: mUH dIVERSity

Haven't used them for a while now anyway, but still sad to see them side with all the rest of the mentally ill screechers.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:41    Post subject:
You mean the mentally ill screechers that get upset about a flag mod being added? As apposed to the mentally ill screechers that get upset about a flag mod being removed?

Two clown cars throwing pies equal a clown show no matter how fancy the pies are made.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:41    Post subject:
And now nexus got too big for it's own good. Time for a change
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:45    Post subject:
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And now nexus got too big for it's own good. Time for a change

Stop using and vocalize your disapproval of a thing they are doing that offends your standards by stating to others you and others should find a different source?
Sooo..cancel culture the ones that you say are doing cancel culture?

Both sides of this fight are woefully unaware hypocrites Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:50    Post subject:
You know me by now that when i have something to say i'll say it. I don't care about your or others approval.

When a site starts censoring and removing content that doesn't fit some agenda then it sure is time for a change. Doesn't have anything to do with my preferences. If you like that kind of practice that'll be your thing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:52    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
You mean the mentally ill screechers that get upset about a flag mod being added? As apposed to the mentally ill screechers that get upset about a flag mod being removed?

Two clown cars throwing pies equal a clown show no matter how fancy the pies are made.


It, quite simply, comes down to this: mod censorship (especially on a single player game) is a bad thing for everyone involved - especially the gamer. If one can't see that, then they're already too far gone.

People didn't take this shit seriously when it all kicked off a decade ago, and the face of gaming changed forever because of it. Remember that big stink people raised when Ubisoft removed skulls, stripper poles, slot machines, etc. from the biker bar level of Rainbow Six Siege in order to appease the Chinese and other easily offended governments?

Well, in the future, rather than face huge controversy, when publishers design their games they censor themselves ahead of time. Is that the world you want?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:55    Post subject:
Thats my point.


Almost this whole thread reads like a ResetEta opposite day thread: Same but other side version of: complaints, collusions of actions to prove the point, reasoning and results of conclusions of why.
Both sides doing the same thing, for the same reasons. Just calling the OTHER disingenuous and crazy because they declare different things and injustice and wrong.

And I could swear someone linked a Reeesta post that said that same thing in different words to an injustice they perceived:
You know me by now that when i have something to say i'll say it. I don't care about your or others approval.
(I know it had to be here, I dont go to that site other than links here).

And do I have to LIKE that practice to say the retort to that practice is same-same just different a soap box?
Handing out pitchforks, or handing out rainbow colored ptichforks...both are supplying pitchforks.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 19:59    Post subject:
There are no pitchforks Confused

But shitty practices needs to be called out on. Censorship is one such practice.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:04    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:

Well, in the future, rather than face huge controversy, when publishers design their games they censor themselves ahead of time. Is that the world you want?

No.

I myself would not know, or care what they think if everyone here didnt keep warning me how dangerous these people are. If anything the posts here would make me self censor beforehand...because I have been told by 3rd party to watch out for it.
Now repeat for everyone on the internet that reposts the single retarded posts as they appear, warning how deranged and far reaching these people we never heard of was...making one more person at a time aware and conscious that these people apparently have power.. (That everyone reposting it is partially responsible for, by causing others to worry about it by virtue of your claims they have power..now they have at least 1 person worth of power more).

Roko’s Basilisk in practical form here is how I see it.
You have now made me aware of the basilisk that would have no real power if everyone didnt keep informing and making people worry about the basilisk...

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-rokos-basilisk-2014-8#:~:text=So%2C%20the%20moral,come%20into%20existence.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:11    Post subject:
Are you telling us that we're making the beast bigger and stronger by talking about it? grinhurt It sounds to me you just don't like people talking down on this movement the way you always are ready to shut down discussions around it
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:25    Post subject:
You have by one person at least I know (me).
As I would have no idea I need to be careful of them if it wasnt that it seems its more important than I knew, seeing as 225 pages of it has been said, it must be a thing I was under concerned of. And now assume they have all sorts of powers I havent observed, but heard 4th hand about.

Its like learning about quicksand when young. So many people tell you about it and talk of the dangers of it, you just assume its a much bigger part of adult life and you need to watch out for quicksand all the time as a adult out in the world...to find out it was just talked about a lot and you never actually have seen any dangerous quicksand, just over dramatization of it. Sure people die of quicksand now and then. But you was lead to believe you would see it at least once a year personally.

And I have NO love for the movement. I have no support for it. Nowhere online will you find me even vaguely agreeing with or encouraging more of it.
I dont try to shut the convos down. I try to point out be less melodramatic about it than them. Otherwise you are the same, jsut different ends of the tug of war rope.

Some of the complaints are valid granted, but a lot of them are are people being oversensitive and blowing things out of proportion, about people that are being oversensitive and blowing things out of proportion.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:33    Post subject:
Oversensitive is reacting to every crazy feminist utterance and who gives a shit. Normal sensitive is reacting to media's representation of today's quite unstable social structure. And Nexus deleting and banning a person for removing a pride flag in a game is by itself overly sensitive. Just the action of a single guy. And they went ahead and banned him. Yes, stuff like this should not happen.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:37    Post subject:
They banned a troll account with a troll name, with one post, with a troll mod it posted.
At least if you are going to state the story, state the entirety of the situation around it.

So they should not ban people that make troll accounts to post troll mods created for the sole purpose of pissing people off (if they SHOULD be pissed off or not, i mean simply because you know posting it would).

If thats the case, NFOHUMP is woke as fuck. They have been doing that very thing for years: Banning alt troll accounts made simply to piss off members.

You ever thought of taking up farming? Cherry picking is a very lucrative agricultural career.

TO ME: the guy going thru the trouble of making the mod to remove the flag to make a point, is just as fragile as the ones that encouraged adding the flag to make a point...just my two cents.
Try not giving a fuck if something in a game that isn't for you, is for others, and play the game? (BOTH sides).
Now if they made the game so ONLY gay people can play, and/or changed them all to be gay characters for no reason...sure thats pushing agenda and excluding others by spite. Not sure how a static flag on a building is in anyway making the game worse for those that dont ident with the flag?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:44    Post subject:
Let's just say we disagree about the weight of censorship
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Aug 2022 20:56    Post subject:
So removing the flag with a mod wasnt a form censorship? I am confused.

Say it was the other way around. It was US flags, and someone made a pride flag to replace them. (Equally as dumb and 'I got an opinion, everyone stop and listen to me!' as this flag mod is).

Would the actions and outrage it was removed as a mod be the same? Would we be here arguing how that mod needs to stay up and removing it was censorship?
And would the other argument of why the mod was made still be valid? That it took out something that people found offensive (not everyone live in US, and some dont care for the US flag) and a new flag was made to fix that?

If not then your definition of censorship seems to only apply when its convenient for you and aligns with what you already agree with (or disagree with) and not about the wrongness of censorship in and of itself.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 00:00    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
So removing the flag with a mod wasnt a form censorship? I am confused.

Say it was the other way around. It was US flags, and someone made a pride flag to replace them. (Equally as dumb and 'I got an opinion, everyone stop and listen to me!' as this flag mod is).

Would the actions and outrage it was removed as a mod be the same?


The only reason a mod should be removed is if it's a malicious file (executable or some sort of security exploit). End of story.

What I have a problem with is selective censorship. The mod that changed pride to US was removed. The mod that changed ALL flags to pride/BLM/whatever the fuck WAS NOT TOUCHED.

Take a look at the upper left and lower right of this screenshot I took the other day. That "Progressive Flags" mod hasn't (and will not) be touched. Meanwhile, the other was instantly removed.

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If you're OK with that kind of double standard bullshit then, well, I don't think anything more needs to be said.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 00:18    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
@Wubbajack
non-newtonian fluid: A non-Newtonian fluid is a fluid that does not follow Newton's law of viscosity.

A joke about the LGBT flags and 'fluid' genders do not follow any gender laws (I'm assuming).

Well, I know what's a non-newtonian fluid. I just don't get the reference to it in the name of that mod. Is the joke really JUST about "hurr hurr they both contain the word 'fluid'"?
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 00:30    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
And now nexus got too big for it's own good. Time for a change
Not "now".
Started a while back with the mod compilations controversy:



Even the siding with the wokémons isn't exactly new, happened last year with that super-straight flag trolling with all mods with that getting the ban-hammer.
Such thin-skinned faggots
Still, with today's modding scene even those mods will eventually find a home somewhere else, so not that much of an issue. IMO their fuckery with the mod compilation debacle is a worse look.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 01:05    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:

Take a look at the upper left and lower right of this screenshot I took the other day. That "Progressive Flags" mod hasn't (and will not) be touched. Meanwhile, the other was instantly removed.

If you're OK with that kind of double standard bullshit then, well, I don't think anything more needs to be said.

I'm not, I myself think they should both be removed. Game mods CAN be about personal opinions about social commentary. Those mods hosted on mod sites using bandwidth they pay for with money made off my ads I have to look at, not so much.

You want to make a social statement using a game as your medium...you do you and do it. But others to distribute it for free for you is a privilege. SO both should be removed from the site as they both are made solely as social commentary and not for the game modding it adds itself. Now NOT saying they cannot exist as mods, thats a different discussion.

I just feel if it WAS the other way around and that one you linked was removed because people complained, I would bet both testicles the people upset now would not be here making posts about how the site is censoring THEM.

And this is NOT censoring..No one has told him he cannot make it, talk about it all he wants, tell everyone he knows to tell everyone they know about it. They just said they do not wish to share his message for free with services they pay for.
Too many people confuse censoring with simply not wanting to amplify what you have to say: "You on the internet, you need to relay may thoughts using your services and things you pay for yourself, or I will say you are censoring me".
Everyone acts like the internet owes them something. And if a free site they use doesn't do what they want them to...it's censorship.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 01:10    Post subject:
You know what I do on the Nexus when I don't like a mod author, category or associated tag? I use the blocking feature.

Elianora, who is an extremely talented modder, often posts political mods. I love her work (particularly her player homes), but I can't stand seeing real world things in my FO/Skyrim worlds. So I hit one button. It's that easy.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 01:15    Post subject:
You know what easier? Not caring a lone voice is making mods in a sea of them that are rarely downloaded and soon forgotten tweaks. Thats no buttons to hit.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 01:16    Post subject:
I'll wait for your 47th edit before I reply
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Aug 2022 01:24    Post subject:
That one was short, I didnt have to edit it Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2022 21:11    Post subject:
Wow, even euroderper has gone completely over the hill:
https://www.eurogamer.net/trans-twitch-streamer-keffals-in-hiding-after-doxxing-attack-follows-swatting-incident


And ofc people talking sense in the comments get "called out":
Quote:
No one should ever go through this but if you’re “in hiding”, why the hell are you posting and sharing photos online?!
"Akshually fuck you for blaming the victim!1"
dafuq Laughing

Anyway, it's a troon grifter that has already racked up $70k shortly after the first incident, which led to the other two incidents so now the gofundme stands at $100+k, strange huh?
Also, this creep's discord had some shady private channels/rooms with some suspiciouly young kids AND supports some homemade DiY hormone deliveries for kids.


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2022 21:40    Post subject:
not gamergate related. Rolling Eyes

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there's a subreddit for this shit and a kiwi plantation for it as well. don't bring this sort of shit here Sad do it on slack


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2022 21:59    Post subject:
Oh right, forgot he's your boiiiiii (as in you're both leafs) so you're going to jail for that post.
Well, it's still related to gaming (though it shouldn't because gaming news sites should have known better, starting with not hiring retards writing for pink news (of all places) like the dunce that wrote that article) but this thread isn't just for gamergayyyy shit. And for quite a long time now.


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