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vurt
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| tet666 wrote: | VR fanboyism really got weird when Half Life Alyx came out. This was the first, and only, big mainstream game for the platform so far and I think a lot of the VR evangelists saw it as a big win for it. Most of these guys don't even seem to be actual Half Life fans so the fact that everyone else just wants to play the damn video game normally doesn't even really matter to them.
Who the fuck cares if someone plays the game using a shittier method? It literally does not concern them. It concerns the person playing the game. Thats it. Most people will understand the trade offs and probably still consider it a decent experience for the lore.
I mean personally I don't like to use VR it's a barf simulator for me but I still want to experience the first new Half-Life game in decades somehow because I love the franchise, it's a big part of my childhood so what's so hard to understand about that? |
VR has tons of big titles in racing, flight sims, space sims, horror (two resident evil games, for example, a very big franchise), had for many years now.
Alyx is the one of the bigger exclusives and it's exclusive for a very good reason, to me it's a rather gimmicky VR game, it's good as a introduction to VR because it shows cool shit that just isn't possible with other controllers, or if done with other control methods it's just a "wtf is this shit, this is boring af!". At least the start (haven't played the entire game).
Maybe you know, get VR... it's pretty good and it's not expensive either. Buy a used Quest 2, make sure you wash it, play cool games for some month, sell it for the same price..
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2021 13:45 Post subject: |
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what i am wondering is , are there any established rental services for VR goggles? i mean i'd like to use it for 1-2 games that seem interesting (to me) but im not going to buy a headset just for those
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vurt
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2021 13:48 Post subject: |
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Doubt that, never heard of. Why not just buy and sell, very easy + good for getting rep up on whatever platform you use to buy/sell on...
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2021 14:04 Post subject: |
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Why not just ignore it? Obviously a failure with a few ambitious titles over the years. Big corps dont dare investing and you get indie shit en masse. Enjoy π
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vurt
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2021 14:14 Post subject: |
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2021 14:15 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2021 14:48 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Why not just ignore it? Obviously a failure with a few ambitious titles over the years. Big corps dont dare investing and you get indie shit en masse. Enjoy π |
well its what ive been doing so far and probably continue doing... but if there were an option to check it out for small moneys... why not?
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Jan 2022 20:20 Post subject: |
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Just finished this game and HOW CAN THEY JUST END IT LIKE THAT?????
Overall a great game, but you can really tell they had to hold themselves back to not overwhelm new players with VR. I have been playing VR games for quite a while on PSVR, and definitely would have preferred if they had just let go of the brakes a bit.
There are never more than 3 combine enemies at a time and they move rather slowly. Would have loved to see them trying to flank you better with more enemies.
Also the environments were a bit bland, the whole game is basically basement/warehouse/industril area/repeat and in between some alien gunk. I do realize HL1 also had mostly industrial environments, but that game had a better progression with the pacing showing you were moving forward into territory you didn't belong. I didn't get this feeling here, rather it was mostly "move forward to that thing".
Again, this was probably done mostly to constrain the player and not demand too much from them. I sure hope for the next game (if there ever is one) they also use some of Xen or other alien worlds.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Jan 2022 21:29 Post subject: |
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| bringiton wrote: | Just finished this game and HOW CAN THEY JUST END IT LIKE THAT?????
Overall a great game, but you can really tell they had to hold themselves back to not overwhelm new players with VR. I have been playing VR games for quite a while on PSVR, and definitely would have preferred if they had just let go of the brakes a bit.
There are never more than 3 combine enemies at a time and they move rather slowly. Would have loved to see them trying to flank you better with more enemies.
Also the environments were a bit bland, the whole game is basically basement/warehouse/industril area/repeat and in between some alien gunk. I do realize HL1 also had mostly industrial environments, but that game had a better progression with the pacing showing you were moving forward into territory you didn't belong. I didn't get this feeling here, rather it was mostly "move forward to that thing".
Again, this was probably done mostly to constrain the player and not demand too much from them. I sure hope for the next game (if there ever is one) they also use some of Xen or other alien worlds. |
It was far betther than EP2 ending.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Feb 2022 19:08 Post subject: |
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| Ampee wrote: | | It was far betther than EP2 ending. |
Wut? Episode 2 had an ending?! |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Feb 2022 22:57 Post subject: |
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well it did end...abruptly
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Feb 2022 09:05 Post subject: |
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Ah yes, I remember, it ended with the... credits.
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JackQ
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M4trix
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2022 15:33 Post subject: |
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NVM
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2022 16:56 Post subject: |
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Yeah this is never coming out lol.
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2022 17:08 Post subject: |
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Ain't the same thing without VR.
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2022 21:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Jun 2022 23:36 Post subject: |
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Seriously though, literally just borrow a VR headset.
Get a Quest 2 on Amazon and send it back or something
It's a good game but VR is the big gimmick here, without it's gonna be somewhat mediocre, probably worse than that.
It'd be like Wii Sports with a mouse and keyboard.. yea there's still a game there but c'mon
If someone can somehow read all of their future and it reads "Will never own a VR headset" I'd recommend to just never play this game, just don't.
Fuck it, there are other games.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2022 01:09 Post subject: |
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| Amadeus wrote: | Seriously though, literally just borrow a VR headset.
Get a Quest 2 on Amazon and send it back or something
It's a good game but VR is the big gimmick here, without it's gonna be somewhat mediocre, probably worse than that.
It'd be like Wii Sports with a mouse and keyboard.. yea there's still a game there but c'mon
If someone can somehow read all of their future and it reads "Will never own a VR headset" I'd recommend to just never play this game, just don't.
Fuck it, there are other games. |
+1
It would be like first telling the twist for Saw movie and then starting to watch it.
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2022 01:20 Post subject: |
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I agree, if you buy a headset and play alyx, there really isn't anything else out that that can even remotely compare to its level of polish. VR Market is still very underserved so it's mostly forever Early Access titles with so much jank it defeats the purpose of VR immersion.
So you are better off just somehow gaining temprary access to a headset, playing it then returning it. Otherwise it will be sitting there collecting a lot of dust.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2022 08:42 Post subject: |
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No. I want Non-VR.
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2022 14:28 Post subject: |
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Yeah this game doesn't make sense without VR.
There are bunch of other awesome VR games besides Alyx worth checking out.
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Surray
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2022 18:04 Post subject: |
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The gameplay in this would be very boring and basic for non-VR.
Like with the shotgun event battle thing in the video above.
In VR? Big moment. It's scary, you're under pressure with a new unknown weapon your hand with enemies closing in. If you miss you gotta manually reload and you might not be that familiar with the controls yet at that point.
in non-VR? You click 3 times and they're dead and it's done.
so gameplay wise, yeah. In VR a single headcrab can make for a scary encounter.
BUT
if it was me, I'd be up for just running around in this world. it's so well designed.
seeing the environments and characters and stuff. the gameplay wouldn't even really matter.
like the leaked hl2 beta back in the day, remember that?
not really something to get for "gameplay" but it was still a blast to experience.
I view this in a similar way.
If there is a chance you'll get VR though, wait, because it's worth experiencing in VR for the first time if you can.
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2022 18:09 Post subject: |
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~2 years ago or so I tried the mods that would make it playable without VR but it was messy and ultimately didn't work. After watching a few demos I came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it. HF: Alyx is a demo for Steam VR, nothing else.
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