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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Mar 2006 12:57    Post subject:
you're right about the Ori soldiers, they were just some lame farmers with a metal armor and some advanced weapon.

but the Jaffa were very different, they trained all their lifes to be soldiers, and they made some pretty strong army with very good fighting capabilities.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Mar 2006 13:09    Post subject:
That could be killed in swarms by SG-1, a scientist, an archaeologist, another Jaffa, and an army guy.

See the wide large gaping hole in the supposed "Jaffa"-superiority.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Mar 2006 19:02    Post subject:
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I lack soldiers in this series, and a serious threat. I mean, look at the peacekeepers in Farscape, or the Cylons in BSG, that's some organized enemies that can deal out a whole lot of hurt due to training, advanced equipment, and experience.


Honestly though, the Cylons are generally pussies too. There was that one episode where they boarded the Galactica and for some reason these were 'uber' cylons that could only be damaged with explosive rounds. But every other time they are encountered a simple pistol can take them down with a couple of shots. What the fuck?


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Mar 2006 23:43    Post subject:
I hate SCI-fis schedules, why cant they just run stuff like other people? Why do season have to be broken half and be spread across summer and winter?
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006 00:10    Post subject:
this weeks SG-1 sucked, they are saving everything for the next episode, the season finale.

changing subject, what do you guys tought of Battlestar Galactica?

is chief a Cylon? or is it the shrink?

it was quite intersting what the shrink said, "you are not a cylon because I am a cylon and I had never saw you at any cylon reunion"

and what about the planet they discovered? is it earth? or a completly new planet?


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006 00:27    Post subject:
dont know why people like BSG to me 75% of the episodes are crap but its worth watching for the good ones and that fit cylon woman tricia helfer
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006 07:20    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
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I lack soldiers in this series, and a serious threat. I mean, look at the peacekeepers in Farscape, or the Cylons in BSG, that's some organized enemies that can deal out a whole lot of hurt due to training, advanced equipment, and experience.


Honestly though, the Cylons are generally pussies too. There was that one episode where they boarded the Galactica and for some reason these were 'uber' cylons that could only be damaged with explosive rounds. But every other time they are encountered a simple pistol can take them down with a couple of shots. What the fuck?


You forget that those guns have a slot underneath the main barrel for special explosive rounds.

It wasn't the main ammo for the pistol that took those robots out, it was a direct hit in the head with an explosive round that (usually) did it. And if you'd watch that episode once more, you'd see that it wasn't as easy as you explain.

Remember that most of the people on the Galactica are (by the time they're fighting them on board the ship) quite used to fighting these things. The Cylons were, after all created by man, and the robot versions were especially constructed by human engineers.

How those charges in these guns work? No idea, mayhaps it's specially designed for taking out these combat models of Cylons?

Remember, SG-1, and Atlantis exist in a world that's "just" discovered outer space, but still they manage to combat every opponent (using earth weaponry) to the degree that most of the opposition is soundly beaten.

These Go'auld leaders have been alive for thousands of years (by exchanging human bodies over time) and still they all basically retain the basic intellect of a clown with enormous narcissist problems.


The explanation I see for this is the target audiences; SG-1 / Atlantis are created more for sheer entertainment value, and a broader audience (also seen from the amount of viewers, and younger fanbase) - this makes it so, that they need the heroes to go through overwhelming odds, but never experiencing (really) any direct wounds, or "real" circumstances (4 vs. X (where X, nearly always is twice the amount of 4)).

You might say that if you suspend disbelief, both SG-1 and Atlantis has an entertainment value, and I agree fullily. Both series are light hearted, and somewhat soapy. There is no real character development (I've argued this prior to this), and the motives for whatever civilization the Stargate-teams from earth meets are most oftenly surface-thin.

It's a rather naïve construct, that only works if you really "just watch it, and don't think about it". Sort of like some (if not most) of the WW2-movies made by the Hollywood industry. Where Nazi-Germany is viewed as an unintelligent scheme by only a power-hungry mad man.

Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

I've been watching both SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis from the getgo, and still do. I agree that they have an entertainment value, but that it's cartoon-like, and a bit cheesy at best. The series have heart, and younger audiences are also invited to watch it.

And this is how I view it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006 22:32    Post subject:
FUCK, I wrote a long and interesting post about Galatica here but it got fucking deleted when firefox crashed! ARGH!

Well anyway Fisk, what I meant was, in that one episode where they board galactica it takes explosive rounds to kill the cylon centurians, in every other episode a pistol using normal ammo seems capable. Continuity error?

As for the differences between the human form cylons, well thats easily explainable by saying they were engineered for different purposes. Because some of them seem to have exceptional speed, endurance and strength, while others seems essentially human.


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Mar 2006 23:47    Post subject:
Ehh, in which episode have the robot cylons been destroyed by regular pistol ammo?

Just give me one example, and I'll verify it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Mar 2006 00:24    Post subject:
Season 2 episode 6 about 36 minutes into it. Apollo kills one.

Don't try to tell me that was explosive ammo because they have to reload each explosive round individually.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Mar 2006 09:26    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
this weeks SG-1 sucked, they are saving everything for the next episode, the season finale.

changing subject, what do you guys tought of Battlestar Galactica?

is chief a Cylon? or is it the shrink?

it was quite intersting what the shrink said, "you are not a cylon because I am a cylon and I had never saw you at any cylon reunion"

and what about the planet they discovered? is it earth? or a completly new planet?


No the priest was just beeing sarcastic i think. But then on the othr hand it would be hillarius if he was telling the truth hehe Very Happy Decent episode, I liked the previous one ALOT but i guess this is the calm before the storm.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Mar 2006 15:58    Post subject:
See Fisk, I told ya! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Mar 2006 20:08    Post subject:
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See Fisk, I told ya! Very Happy


Uhh? Haven't had the time to check it yet.


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Mar 2006 20:19    Post subject:
Maybe the priest is cylon.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Mar 2006 23:31    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Season 2 episode 6 about 36 minutes into it. Apollo kills one.

Don't try to tell me that was explosive ammo because they have to reload each explosive round individually.


If you watch carefully Apollo hit inbetween the cylons armor. You can call it a lucky shot. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Mar 2006 00:37    Post subject:
Ettis wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Season 2 episode 6 about 36 minutes into it. Apollo kills one.

Don't try to tell me that was explosive ammo because they have to reload each explosive round individually.


If you watch carefully Apollo hit inbetween the cylons armor. You can call it a lucky shot. Smile


Whatever! If you watch one of the season 1 episodes, Helio(sp?) shoots one in the head a couple of times and it dies. The bit where he dives behind the counter and the other cylon starts firing wildly at the bottles behind him. Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Mar 2006 17:14    Post subject:
according to this site bsg season 3 will not go on air until october this year :/
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but it seems we'll be getting it in hdtv again Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Mar 2006 16:53    Post subject:
Stargate SG-1 and Battlestar Galactica season finale tonight

Seems that Galactica will air a 90 minute episode tonight Very Happy

and about SG-1 I read that tonight's episode will be amazing, guess I'll have to wait and see


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 04:28    Post subject:
Awesome season finales, im expecting a SG-1 and atlantis crossover next season. Cant wait to see a jaffa/earth VS ori VS wraith battle Very Happy

wtf no BSG till october Evil or Very Mad I thought SG1 and Atlantic usually came back in july WITH BSG. Now its just gonna be the 2 SG's Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 05:05    Post subject:
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Maybe the priest is cylon.


holy crap i was right Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 21:03    Post subject:
Like it, sort of.... I think it was horribly rushed unfortunately. Wish the transition could have been more gentle. Great entertainment nonetheless.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 21:10    Post subject:
I think it should have been a 2 episode finale.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 22:20    Post subject:
Ron moore said in the postcast that sci-fi does for the BSG episodes next season will start 5 years ahead
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 22:38    Post subject:
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I think it should have been a 2 episode finale.


Indeed, this is like Alias Season 4, leaves with 2000000000000000000000000 questions.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 02:50    Post subject:
Benoyd wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
I think it should have been a 2 episode finale.


Indeed, this is like Alias Season 4, leaves with 2000000000000000000000000 questions.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 03:35    Post subject:
kirkblitz wrote:
Benoyd wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
I think it should have been a 2 episode finale.


Indeed, this is like Alias Season 4, leaves with 2000000000000000000000000 questions.
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is it the new lost?


Not really.

The Ori served everyone their collective asses, nuff said.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 04:50    Post subject:
Except SG1 escaped on a escape pod. When the earth ship got blown up(i think it was the earth ship) there was a yellow streak that came out of it and went away from it. I bet it was a escape pod.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 05:59    Post subject:
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Except SG1 escaped on a escape pod. When the earth ship got blown up(i think it was the earth ship) there was a yellow streak that came out of it and went away from it. I bet it was a escape pod.


An earth ship did get blown up, but non of the SG-1 team were on it. It was the american one. Jackson and Mitchell were on the russian ship, Teal'c was on the Lucian Alliance mothership and Carter is on the supergate.

So no need for an escape pod. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 11:17    Post subject:
I think Mitchell were in one of the 302:s.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 11:54    Post subject:
no, we can see Mitchell running within the ship when she blows up, there are only 2 solutions for SG-1 survival, they have all been transported to another ship, or they have been ascended by the ancients or the ori.
hope they saved carter also, is a damned stupid way to die in the cold of space.

as for battlestar galactica, I cannot see the point on that ending, I mean, if the cylons really wan't to keep humans alive, why did they bother to show up and made them surrender?, Baltar is a frakking failure as a president, I did not think that he would turn over night like that.


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