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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2022 17:26    Post subject:
Looks nice.

Also: I do hope that the new female ghost in the trailer is a new character to the series, not just for commercial purpose.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Apr 2022 10:48    Post subject:
Papa says that he will buy me that and we will play it together at summer holidays!!
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 19:01    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
Looks nice.

Also: I do hope that the new female ghost in the trailer is a new character to the series, not just for commercial purpose.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 19:15    Post subject:
they/them ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 21:13    Post subject:
T6chikom6 wrote:
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/04/in-rare-interview-monkey-island-designers-tell-ars-about-long-awaited-return/


I really didn't like their take on modern gamers and their inability to be patient for more than 2 minutes at a time, I think that's complete horse shit in order to justify questionable puzzle design. People don't want easy games (maybe they missed on the Souls series' popularity Very Happy), they want cleverly designed games - at least people susceptible of purchasing the game to begin with. Catering to an audience which is not interested in those kinda games is stupid as hell. Regardless, Monkey Island games excelled in providing subtle (or not so subtle) clues to lead you, what else do you need ? They weren't even super difficult games to begin with compared to the likes of Myst.

Whenever I read those "this kid I played my old games with couldn't bear not to immediately Google everything".. improve your kid man, don't ruin your game Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 16:27    Post subject:

The trailer's out and the website's been updated.

Seems like we will see a lot of familiar faces and places again, and that we will take control of Elaine at some point (which kinda goes against the "it's all in Guybrush's head" theory) ?
The mystery thickens Razz.. but it indeed looks like it will be closure and tie up all loose ends once and for all.

The art style is not really an issue to me even though I would have preferred either pixel or handdrawn art by a long shot.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 16:31    Post subject:
Back to Mêlée Island too, nice Smile Don't like the art style either though, the characters' faces look so emotionless.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 16:41    Post subject:
Yeah that's the most irksome part, backgrounds etc in that artstyle don't bother me, but characters and their lack of expressions do !

As some commenters have pointed out, there could be time travelling shenanigans with multiple characters to play (much like Maniac Mansion and Thimbleweed Park, more recently).
It's a bit of recurring mechanic for Gilbert at this point..

PS : It's a shame it's not coming out this summer, my fondest gaming memory ever is playing 1&2 throughout the summer holidays (instead of enjoying the sun and stuff Laughing), discovering this new iteration during the summer would have been peak nostlagia for me Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 21:28    Post subject:
Cant wait!

Time to upgrade my Graphics Card for this beast.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 22:24    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
Yeah that's the most irksome part, backgrounds etc in that artstyle don't bother me, but characters and their lack of expressions do !

Seems like it's a Guybrush kicking another Guybrush off the cliff at the end ? As some commenters have pointed out, there could be time travelling shenanigans with multiple characters to play (much like Maniac Mansion and Thimbleweed Park, more recently).
It's a bit of recurring mechanic for Gilbert at this point..

PS : It's a shame it's not coming out this summer, my fondest gaming memory ever is playing 1&2 throughout the summer holidays (instead of enjoying the sun and stuff Laughing), discovering this new iteration during the summer would have been peak nostlagia for me Razz


So hold off on playing it until next year summer. The deunovo should be cracked by then, men.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 23:41    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jun 2022 23:58    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
TheZor wrote:
Yeah that's the most irksome part, backgrounds etc in that artstyle don't bother me, but characters and their lack of expressions do !

Seems like it's a Guybrush kicking another Guybrush off the cliff at the end ? As some commenters have pointed out, there could be time travelling shenanigans with multiple characters to play (much like Maniac Mansion and Thimbleweed Park, more recently).
It's a bit of recurring mechanic for Gilbert at this point..

PS : It's a shame it's not coming out this summer, my fondest gaming memory ever is playing 1&2 throughout the summer holidays (instead of enjoying the sun and stuff Laughing), discovering this new iteration during the summer would have been peak nostlagia for me Razz


So hold off on playing it until next year summer. The deunovo should be cracked by then, men.


Laughing Fuck that, I'll buy it if it's any good, no way I'll manage to wait Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 03:03    Post subject:
I'm not really a fan of the style either, however Gilbert/Terrible Toybox did a great job with Thimbleweed Park in terms of old-school mechanics and charm so I still have some hope (kind of)...unless the fearsome three-headed monster of streamlinization and howdoyoudofellowkids-like humour joins the party, that is.



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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 06:01    Post subject:
The animations look smooth but that artstyle will take some getting used to.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 13:40    Post subject:
Why did the sword master become She Hulk? And why does Guybrush have a penose Laughing Laughing



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 13:43    Post subject:
I wonder if adults had this much to complain when Monkey Island 2 or 3 came out

I know I would have loved this as a kid - unless ofc it's just generally bad.

Does everyone just grow up to be cynic?
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 13:53    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
I wonder if adults had this much to complain when Monkey Island 2 or 3 came out

I know I would have loved this as a kid - unless ofc it's just generally bad.

Does everyone just grow up to be cynic?

Yes, you didn't have social media to see it then but the forums/message boards were full of it. The change of art style from 2 to 3 was and still is divisive to this day.



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 14:01    Post subject:
Guybrush looked similar in Monkey 2 though, just with a bit more detail.

Seeing the dorky Guybrush in Monkey 3 at first admittedly took a bit to get used to (he seemed also a lot younger too than in Monkey 2), but the character animation and voice acting quickly sold it. The introduction chapter was great too. I have nothing but good memories of Monkey 3 Smile

So yeah, I'm not gonna let the new art style get in the way of a potentially great game. I'll judge it myself when I play it Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 17:52    Post subject:
i kind of like it tbh... i mean lets be honest, no artistic direction in 2022 will ever come close to what we have in our heads (and hearts <3) of how monkey island 1-2 looked like when we first played it on our x386 pcs

haven't played any monkey island game after the first ones, but this one i will try
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 17:53    Post subject:
Same thinking here - I was similarly surprised to see how different Guybrush looked in CMI (beardless, no jaw, not the same hair colour/cut, more basic clothes) and people back then were fairly pissed off about it - imo partially because they grew older and couldn't stand the cartoon artstyle. I was still a kid back then which might have influenced my opinion, but it was a brillant transition to me, and it fit the chill Caribbean vibe of the game perfectly to me !

This new style might end up growing up on me too, it does look better in action.


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still i cannot stand the bright blonde hair color
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jun 2022 18:48    Post subject:
This is the one I'd go back to whenever I felt the need to go Monkey on the Island:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/32360/The_Secret_of_Monkey_Island_Special_Edition/


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jul 2022 00:49    Post subject:
Quote:
Monkey Island Creator Ron Gilbert Has Joy Sapped From Sequel Thanks To Awful People
A barrage of 'personal attacks' means the Return To Monkey Island lead won't discuss the game online


https://kotaku.com/return-monkey-island-ron-gilbert-art-style-angry-fans-1849128586

He's disabled all comments on his site and where ever else he manages.

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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jul 2022 02:41    Post subject:
Anonymous people are shitty to one another on the internet. More at 10.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jul 2022 10:40    Post subject:
That blog was pretty much pristine and a very good place for conversations on adventure games' design before the reveal. It suddenly devolved into "DONT MAKE IT LEFTIST SJW WOKE SHIT, ELSE" "ART IS SHIT KILL YOURSELF" in a matter of 24 hours. I can understand the bitterness even tho I'd personally just ignore/remove that crap.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jul 2022 17:00    Post subject:
People can be insane cynical shits, no news there
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jul 2022 17:50    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
That blog was pretty much pristine and a very good place for conversations on adventure games' design before the reveal. It suddenly devolved into "DONT MAKE IT LEFTIST SJW WOKE SHIT, ELSE" "ART IS SHIT KILL YOURSELF" in a matter of 24 hours. I can understand the bitterness even tho I'd personally just ignore/remove that crap.

The problem here is that the valid criticisms are now all clumped with the "OMG WTFBBQ" clowns. These morons need to learn to criticize the art, not the creator.



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Aug 2022 20:46    Post subject:
https://returntomonkeyisland.com/

Cool website

So apparently it's a sequel to Monkey Island 2

Retconning Monkey Island 3 & 4 and Tales

Fine by me, tho MI 3 was very good imho
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