Vampire: The Masquerade Forever - Bloodlines 2 [TBA]
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HubU
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 20:14    Post subject:
Pretty simple: they were going for a CP2077 type of release with a:

"hey fans, you have a taste of what it might be now. Only us are doing anything major with this type of IP now, sooo, guess you have nothing else either. Thanks for the money though. v1.0 for mid 22, hopefully! Love you! *bat smiley*".

Now, they know that they will get crucified for it, so they're going for a solid 0.8 early 22.
We'll see Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 20:26    Post subject:
isnt that the standard procedure for padadox though..
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 22:52    Post subject:
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0wen




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2021 23:32    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
vurt wrote:
why did they went with those clowns to begin with Rolling Eyes


Because in charge of many companies nowadays there are often managers / PR representatives / negotiators very well trained in the art of 'persuasion', that get their way and turn profit not on the quality of their services, but their massive skill in bullshitting.


Hardsuit Labs having Mitsoda as part of the team probably was the biggest reason Paradox gave them the shot even though anyone that looked at their previous game would have known it was a bad idea from the start. It will be interesting to see who Paradox brings in to try an fix this mess and how much of the current game is salvageable from a dev standpoint.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Feb 2021 02:55    Post subject:
Haha damn, at least we're getting a thrilling soap opera out of this masquerade. And to think that hiring folks with only a crappy F2P shooter under their belt to develop the sequel of one of the most iconic RPGs out there seemed such a big brain move Poker Face
Add to that the internal disruptive *current year* Twitterian atmosphere alongside pure mismanagement where the only capable individuals in there were insta-cancelled(tm) and you truly get the recipe for an announced disaster.

I don't think anything good will ever come out of this to be completely honest, but maybe a fresh start might lead to positive things after all. First we need to see who the project will be delivered to, though.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 19:18    Post subject:
Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 19:24    Post subject:
its fake
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jul 2021 22:29    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
https://chrisavellone.medium.com/what-the-fuck-happened-to-bloodlines-2-1ad557bf2284

Although in the end no one really has a complete answer to this dumpster fire of a project, it's fun to read MCA's zero_fucks_given perspective and details. I like to imagine him writing this piece whilst wearing Mitsoda's human skin gloves.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2021 11:25    Post subject:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-16-paradox-says-its-happy-with-progress-of-bloodlines-2-under-new-developer

Are You Serious

Guess we missed those october news:
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Back in October, Paradox CEO Fredrik Wester admitted the publisher had almost scrapped Bloodlines 2 completely after its incredibly troubled development, which has seen the project hit with multiple delays and other controversies since its announcement back in 2019 - a sequence of events that ultimately lead to original developer Hardsuit Labs being removed from the project earlier this year.

Wester also confirmed Bloodlines 2 was now in the hands of a "very reputable and talented" new developer and that the studio had "high hopes" the title would "be a good game that meets our players' desires." One thing Wester did not share, however, was the new developer's name, and Paradox has now confirmed that secrecy will remain in place for the foreseeable future.



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In a live Q&A that followed the release of Paradox's Q3 interim report (as spotted by PC Gamer), CFO Alexander Bricca explained, "We prefer to give the studio a situation where they can focus fully on the game development and not having to address fans reaching out to them. So therefore we have so far not disclosed the name of the studio and we are very happy to keep it that way for still some time."

Despite the secrecy, Paradox says the new developer is "doing quite well and we are happy with the progress of the project now". Unsurprisingly, however, the turmoil surrounding the development of Bloodlines 2 has had a dramatic impact on its launch timeline. Whereas Paradox was initially aiming to ship the game this year before booting Hardsuit off the project, it now says there is "still quite some time before we can start to talk about release dates."


So game development is progressing at a good place according to paradox, but they're still keeping the developer secret? Wonder if they're fearing some backlash from some psycho tumblr fans Laughing
And if this will be a new practice from here on out.


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2021 05:07    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-16-paradox-says-its-happy-with-progress-of-bloodlines-2-under-new-developer

Are You Serious

Guess we missed those october news:
Quote:
Back in October, Paradox CEO Fredrik Wester admitted the publisher had almost scrapped Bloodlines 2 completely after its incredibly troubled development, which has seen the project hit with multiple delays and other controversies since its announcement back in 2019 - a sequence of events that ultimately lead to original developer Hardsuit Labs being removed from the project earlier this year.

Wester also confirmed Bloodlines 2 was now in the hands of a "very reputable and talented" new developer and that the studio had "high hopes" the title would "be a good game that meets our players' desires." One thing Wester did not share, however, was the new developer's name, and Paradox has now confirmed that secrecy will remain in place for the foreseeable future.



Quote:
In a live Q&A that followed the release of Paradox's Q3 interim report (as spotted by PC Gamer), CFO Alexander Bricca explained, "We prefer to give the studio a situation where they can focus fully on the game development and not having to address fans reaching out to them. So therefore we have so far not disclosed the name of the studio and we are very happy to keep it that way for still some time."

Despite the secrecy, Paradox says the new developer is "doing quite well and we are happy with the progress of the project now". Unsurprisingly, however, the turmoil surrounding the development of Bloodlines 2 has had a dramatic impact on its launch timeline. Whereas Paradox was initially aiming to ship the game this year before booting Hardsuit off the project, it now says there is "still quite some time before we can start to talk about release dates."


So game development is progressing at a good place according to paradox, but they're still keeping the developer secret? Wonder if they're fearing some backlash from some psycho tumblr fans Laughing
And if this will be a new practice from here on out.

Well, we shall see how this game will go without Avelone.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2021 05:08    Post subject:
I can predict it'll be a dumpsterfire in making. Just wait.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2021 05:18    Post subject:
Sadly I agree Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2021 10:00    Post subject:
Whichever developer they have working on it now it has to be one that Paradox owns or worked with before and released a decent game as you would hope they would not pick another untested developer to finish the game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2021 15:16    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
Whichever developer they have working on it now it has to be one that Paradox owns or worked with before and released a decent game as you would hope they would not pick another untested developer to finish the game.


So your quess is Obsidian?
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2021 15:31    Post subject:
Obsidian is now Microsoft's property and they are busy making games for them.
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0wen




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2021 04:37    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Obsidian is now Microsoft's property and they are busy making games for them.


I am not saying it's Obsidian but if it was even though they are part of Microsoft now, that would be one way for MS to gain console exclusivity to the title. But since the title was originally announced for Playstation as well, not sure if that would even work unless it was just a timed exclusive.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2022 15:59    Post subject:
someone explain what this is:


obv. not bloodlines 2 but was suspicious enough of the quality to not give it its own thread
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2022 16:23    Post subject:
Lol trailer. 2 or 3 men in total and 20 wymen.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2022 16:53    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
someone explain what this is:


obv. not bloodlines 2 but was suspicious enough of the quality to not give it its own thread


It already has its own thread.
https://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113878
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2022 17:13    Post subject:
Nezul wrote:
lametta wrote:
someone explain what this is:


obv. not bloodlines 2 but was suspicious enough of the quality to not give it its own thread


It already has its own thread.
https://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113878

Oh thanks, appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 13:46    Post subject:
Did you guys know that The Chinese Room is now making this ? Dear Esther, A Machine for Pigs. Apparently they offered to make this after the debacle with the previous guys.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 14:23    Post subject:
To be honest I had stopped following this for quite some time already, I just expect it to be delayed for years and years until Randy Pitchford barges in and Gearbox finishes it up at this point Laughing
The Chinese Room's games so far have been pretty average, Dear Esther was a nice introduction to the walking sim genre alright but Machine for Pigs really wasn't anything special. The fact that they spontaneously offered to take development over is a good sign though..


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 14:31    Post subject:
machine for pigs wasn't anything special, but that ending was pretty damn good.

Their problem isn't their abilities now i believe, but this product is tainted and messed with by a lot of people. It won't be easy for them to sort through this mess.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 15:12    Post subject:
Yeah, good luck to them indeed !


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 15:31    Post subject:
Its all (fairly accurate) rumours for now, but very likely its them. Paradox is keeping them a secret so far. People are saying that if you type "chinese room" on the games discord it gets auto censored. And that its apparently an open secret in the area the devs are.

But it seems that this is a salvage job. Chinese Room had a pitch to take the assets and get the game done in a couple of years. At this point it would be best for it to never come out, because its not gonna be what we want. And i'd rather Bloodlines remain the rough jewel that it is forever, rather than the discourse around the games in the future to be:

"Did you play Bloodlines ? No, no, not the 2024 game. God, what an awful piece of shit that turned out to be. No, im not talking about that. The 2004 one, the original game. Did you play that one ?

Oh, there's another one ? Didnt know that."

Paradox is just about the worst place outside of sony or nintendo that any franchise can end up at
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 15:37    Post subject:
qqq wrote:
Did you guys know that The Chinese Room is now making this ? Dear Esther, A Machine for Pigs. Apparently they offered to make this after the debacle with the previous guys.
Into the trash it goes then.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2022 20:09    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
I just expect it to be delayed for years and years until Randy Pitchford barges in and Gearbox finishes it up at this point Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jun 2022 02:00    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/143273617/Bloodlines-II


That first picture of the character sheet makes the character look a bit like those super deformed characters as his head looks huge on that body. With what we have seen of the game I really doubt that is just a mock up but probably what it actually looked like at that point.
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