Last Epoch (ARPG)
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Prandur




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th May 2021 15:37    Post subject:
General question / topic for discussion... do you think one should judge a product based on only the product, or also based on who made it?

As an example, if there's a game I like (not this one in particular, just some hypothetical game), I'll play it regardless of who made it; if it's not pirateable then I'd buy it. But I'm seeing people more and more frequently care about stuff such as whether the devs are likeable, whether they care about diversity and such stuff. Should one's enjoyment of a product depend on where it came from? /discuss Smile

(Related note: in the scientific community there's a term called "double-blind reviewing", and it basically means that we should judge results purely based on the results themselves and not by the authors.)
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inz




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th May 2021 15:56    Post subject:
Ideally only the end product should matter, bringing identity politics and all that bullshit into the mix just gets tiresome and invades what should be about escapism.

That being said, I have no qualms whatsoever pirating games if they're published by the likes of EA, Ubi etc. - fuck those guys. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th May 2021 22:41    Post subject:
Prandur wrote:
General question / topic for discussion... do you think one should judge a product based on only the product, or also based on who made it?

As an example, if there's a game I like (not this one in particular, just some hypothetical game), I'll play it regardless of who made it; if it's not pirateable then I'd buy it. But I'm seeing people more and more frequently care about stuff such as whether the devs are likeable, whether they care about diversity and such stuff. Should one's enjoyment of a product depend on where it came from? /discuss Smile

(Related note: in the scientific community there's a term called "double-blind reviewing", and it basically means that we should judge results purely based on the results themselves and not by the authors.)


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th May 2021 15:19    Post subject:


Good stuff.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th May 2021 15:31    Post subject:
I posted this on the previous page.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th May 2021 15:48    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
I posted this on the previous page.


Thanks, added this to my notes.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th May 2021 16:11    Post subject:
lol wut
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nice Wink
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Sep 2021 06:09    Post subject:
That's cool and all, but it'd be nice if they'd focus on releasing the missing classes/subclasses before endlessly reworking stuff endlessly as an excuse to stay in early access for as long as possible.


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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jan 2022 13:40    Post subject:
Is this better then Grim Dawn ? I bought both games in the sale for a few Pesos but have not touched them so far, i'm in the mood for a new ARPG but no clue which one to try first.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jan 2022 14:34    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Is this better then Grim Dawn ? I bought both games in the sale for a few Pesos but have not touched them so far, i'm in the mood for a new ARPG but no clue which one to try first.


You can't go wrong with either of them.
Grim Dawn is a finished game. You can play it from start to finish.
Last Epoch is still in development. It's already heaps of fun but more content will be added later (including multiplayer)
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jan 2022 14:41    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Is this better then Grim Dawn ? I bought both games in the sale for a few Pesos but have not touched them so far, i'm in the mood for a new ARPG but no clue which one to try first.


GD is much better. LE is in EA status like forever and it will stay that way for even longer. They've run out of ideas how to make game better and that is why they are sticking to EA. Actually it's not a bad game, but no way near good either.

And GD is an old game, but it got many updates and etc so it's quite enjoyable and the modding scene can make your playthrough more challenging or unique. You can even replay Diablo 2 in GD with a mod called Reign of Terror Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jan 2022 15:10    Post subject:
I would say Last Epoch is better and they definitely did not run out of ideas. Some stuff definitely needs reworking and they are doing just that. The multiplayer development is advancing too slowly and that's a shame though.
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Jan 2022 15:29    Post subject:
babioraz wrote:
You can even replay Diablo 2 in GD with a mod called Reign of Terror Smile


Now that's intriguing never heard of this mod but D2:R was such a let down for me and this actually looks like what i wanted out of it so a 3d D2 with a bit more modern ARPG gameplay mechanics, nice.
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Very Happy
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2022 09:23    Post subject:
I hope the multiplayer comes soon, been waiting for that for ages, anyway damn this game just keeps getting better and better.
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2022 20:16    Post subject:
Are the rest of the sub-classes done yet? Not sure what the fuck they're waiting for in that regard.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 10:33    Post subject:


Imagine playing 6000 hours of this before realizing how bad it is..
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 10:36    Post subject:


No balancing at all

This is one of those games I've been waiting for to come out of early access. Seems it'll be there for a while yet
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 11:14    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Imagine playing 6000 hours of this before realizing how bad it is..


They make constant adjustments. This issue is most likely something recent.

He says you gonna go the way you have more mores and then he types more and his build has no "more" nodes. Laughing Also, he talks about the small difference between gear and non-gear in terms of damage and he drops from 7k+ hits to 1.5k hits.

I haven't played in a long while, but I'm hoping this doesn't turn into something casual. That will truly suck.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Mar 2023 13:00    Post subject:


Big changes coming tomorrow along with multiplayer.
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lametta




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Mar 2023 15:22    Post subject:
Can anyone playing this give their thoughts on it?

How is it in sp? How good bad is the story?
Is it content complete?(campaign/story wise)
Whats the eta for release?
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