Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt RED)
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2021 15:52    Post subject:
GTAV or RDR2 - level graphics still stand out today. There is hardly any need for MORE investment in this direction. People are tired of all flash no substance products.

Make the damn gameplay and immersion fun and you're all set.

Oh, and remove mouse acceleration...

And add a toggle walk...

AND MAKE ME A SANDWICH!


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locke89




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2021 16:00    Post subject:
The next patch, the "next-gen" one, is supposed to bring the first actual enhancements to the gameplay, too.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2021 16:11    Post subject:
Looking forward to the final... I mean... the habitual Enhanced Edition version of the game. Mobster with a Fag


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bringiton




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2021 20:21    Post subject:
Not sure if it's just me, but does anybody else have trouble just really "spotting" things? It's hard to explain, somehow I have trouble really focusing on what items I pick up, I usually just around randomly and hit the button to pick stuff up.

It seems to be a combination of a lot of random items lying around, the artwork blending into each other, only being able to run (without a mod at least) and the general asthetics of the game. Compared to other games, I somehow can't really "enjoy" taking in the environments, even if they look good and well done.


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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2021 20:51    Post subject:
It's not you. The art style and graphics are all over the place. Apparently for CD Red "cyberpunk" rhymes with rainbows in every visual asset they employ.

As a visual designer, there is a constant loop in my mind - that takes less than a second - of gathering visual information and recompiling it for the sake of understanding, analyzing and recreating forms... So, in Cyberpunk I am fucked, as everything is... chaos. Rolling Eyes

And... as an opposite example(!) (of extremely well done, RICH, colorful and diverse visual melange) I can list: Dishonored 2, The Division (1), Bioshock Infinite and a few others.

bringiton wrote:
Compared to other games, I somehow can't really "enjoy" taking in the environments, even if they look good and well done.


Exactly the same here.


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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Dec 2021 18:25    Post subject:
A modder just added a fully useable Metro System to Cyberpunk 2077, with 19 handbuilt stations where you wait for the train

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/rjunoo/a_modder_just_added_a_fully_useable_metro_system/
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Dec 2021 19:01    Post subject:
What an odd reddit post, no article, no name of mod or anything, just a claim + a screen. Ok. Googled, here's the mod:

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3560

Imagine if something like this was actually a part of an update from them, wow, people would've been amazed and given them a lot of cred.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Dec 2021 21:28    Post subject:
That really looks great, it was supposed to be a feature in the original game as well, but eh...leave it to the modders Razz
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fable2




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Dec 2021 22:40    Post subject:
vurt wrote:

Imagine if something like this was actually a part of an update from them, wow, people would've been amazed and given them a lot of cred.


Author of Mod wrote:

After making this, I totally understand why they dropped this idea tbh. It's just so much work, and probably would have taken up lots of resources even at a big studio like CPDR (Just my guess)
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Coflash




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Dec 2021 22:48    Post subject:
Mafia from 2002 had a better system and a much smaller team. They didn't have all the resources, good will or the budget CDPR have either

The mod author doesn't have access to the proper tools or man hours that could have went into doing it properly, they just bit off more then they could chew and released it 2-3 years too early.

We're already a year out from release and what do they have to show for it? Delaying it by 12 months wouldn't have done anything it seems.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Dec 2021 23:59    Post subject:
fable2 wrote:
vurt wrote:

Imagine if something like this was actually a part of an update from them, wow, people would've been amazed and given them a lot of cred.


Author of Mod wrote:

After making this, I totally understand why they dropped this idea tbh. It's just so much work, and probably would have taken up lots of resources even at a big studio like CPDR (Just my guess)


Strange argument, it's not like he's worked with the engine for several years + he doesn't have any kind of official tools either, they should be able to do this much faster.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 11:27    Post subject:
The question is: is / was really worth it?

People do actually use such methods of transport in open world games, where the next car / transportation you can use is only seconds away!?

I really doubt it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 11:28    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
The question is: is / was really worth it?

People do actually use such methods of transport in open world games, where the next car / transportation you can use is only seconds away!?

I really doubt it.
Yes.

Yes.

I'll notify the mod creator ASAP.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 13:11    Post subject:
Quote:
"The second part of the clip that got caught off does get into an actual explanation of why they didn’t have a police chase system. Sasko says it was a combination of the technical limitations of the engine, and not enough time to make it work before release, so it was something that they eventually just gave up on"


https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/12/19/cyberpunk-2077-director-explains-why-there-arent-police-chases-in-the-game/


they just ... gave up
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DaLexy




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 15:28    Post subject:
They gave up on the entire game, its just a shallow construct.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 17:08    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
The question is: is / was really worth it?

People do actually use such methods of transport in open world games, where the next car / transportation you can use is only seconds away!?

I really doubt it.


I do, i find such transportation really immersive in these kinds of games, and i do play them (for the most part) for that immersive experience, and not for doing things as convenient as possible.
When i heard it was removed in the original game i knew things were going in the wrong direction.

DaLexy wrote:
They gave up on the entire game, its just a shallow construct.


Tbh there are many shallow open world games, many which has either gotten better by time or gone from decent to incredible by mods. I personally see Bethesdas games as kind of empty constructs to begin with, yet they're amongst my favorites games (because mods).
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 17:31    Post subject:
I do understand the need to immerse yourself in that big open world. And the topic (metro) raises mostly subjective views.

I can appreciate a feature like tram / train / metro being in a game. A LOT! By I never choose them over the default way of transportation: horse, car, fast-travel and most immersive one: walking.

Yeah, those extra features can weight a lot, but I still doubt that many people use them, except for RP-ers and those that are VERY much into creating some immersive experience (often for media purposes).


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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Dec 2021 19:09    Post subject:
it's the perfect "fast travel" imo, because it's real time and it's a real.. thing, something relatable.
Walking is superior for exploring obviously, for traveling (after areas are already explored), no.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2022 03:49    Post subject:
fakest fake news next patch gonna magically do 1000% fake just for the lolz

https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/583532528

https://i.4cdn.org/v/1641121999029.jpg
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>cyberpunk next gen/patch 1.5 will be treated as a soft relaunch for the game. game will be renamed Cyberpunk 2077: Samurai Edition
>cdpr will do a big livestream around february to reveal the patch, the cyberpunk anime and the first expansion
>new patch features: barbershops, a garage, improved AI, transmog system, a complete rebalancing of the loot system, new UI
>the promised free dlc will be bundled in and includes 4 new weapons, new game plus, appartment customization, new gigs
>tons of small stuff like judy and panam sending you more text messages during the course of the game
>first expansion takes place in pacifica which is actually quiet huge
>you walk around and do quests in what is called the "combat zone"
>the combat zone is being fought over by two new gangs: the Bozos (violent clown psychopaths with a sick sense of humour) and a gang called Slaughterhouse (violent psychopath fascists)
>walking around the combat zone feels very inspired by the game s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
>cyberpunk will get it's own gwent like mini game, it involves going to cyberspace and controlling and collecting monster which you can send to jrpg like battles, also has multiplayer
>one of the monsters looks like the reaper, another one i saw looks like an oni
>the cyberpunk anime called Cyberpunk 2077: Edgerunners is made by Studio Trigger with writing and story made by CDPR themselves. it looks absolutly insane. Beautiful 2D animation that reminds me of Akira.
>another expansion is in early stages of planning but will only be released if the first expansion is a success
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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2022 08:57    Post subject:
i think it sounds realistic enough.. doesn't sound amazing (like expected), sounds like something doable.
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2022 09:11    Post subject:
Even if it's true, after reading all that, my first reaction was still 'meh' Laughing
Everyone has moved on, by now (or should). They should just let this die and work on the next game, there's nothing to win with these patches, they won't change a game that's flawed by design.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2022 09:42    Post subject:


Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2022 10:31    Post subject:
Perfect Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2022 15:19    Post subject:
They must be so proud of their boi Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Jan 2022 20:35    Post subject:
Dunno if it was posted but recently this POS won best narrative so...



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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Jan 2022 11:32    Post subject:
zTurbo wrote:
fakest fake news next patch gonna magically do 1000% fake just for the lolz

https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/583532528

https://i.4cdn.org/v/1641121999029.jpg
...


>cyberpunk next gen/patch 1.5 will be treated as a soft relaunch for the game. game will be renamed Cyberpunk 2077: Samurai Edition
>cdpr will do a big livestream around february to reveal the patch, the cyberpunk anime and the first expansion
>new patch features: barbershops, a garage, improved AI, transmog system, a complete rebalancing of the loot system, new UI
>the promised free dlc will be bundled in and includes 4 new weapons, new game plus, appartment customization, new gigs
>tons of small stuff like judy and panam sending you more text messages during the course of the game
>first expansion takes place in pacifica which is actually quiet huge
>you walk around and do quests in what is called the "combat zone"
>the combat zone is being fought over by two new gangs: the Bozos (violent clown psychopaths with a sick sense of humour) and a gang called Slaughterhouse (violent psychopath fascists)
>walking around the combat zone feels very inspired by the game s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
>cyberpunk will get it's own gwent like mini game, it involves going to cyberspace and controlling and collecting monster which you can send to jrpg like battles, also has multiplayer
>one of the monsters looks like the reaper, another one i saw looks like an oni
>the cyberpunk anime called Cyberpunk 2077: Edgerunners is made by Studio Trigger with writing and story made by CDPR themselves. it looks absolutly insane. Beautiful 2D animation that reminds me of Akira.
>another expansion is in early stages of planning but will only be released if the first expansion is a success


Fake leakers usually aren't one for subtleties, so this sounds pretty legit
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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Jan 2022 12:11    Post subject:
we'll see
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Jan 2022 12:16    Post subject:
They debunked these leaks

https://twitter.com/gamebowski/status/1478006492607528969


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Jan 2022 12:45    Post subject:
I trust anonymous sources more.
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