Soundtrack was too much, very similar to Blade runner 2049, but there it worked, here it got real tiring in the cinema.Zimmer both, but i think its Villeneuve asking for the wall of sound.
Philip Glass?
Alexandre Desplat?
Ryuichi Sakamoto?
Heck even that dude from NiN composes better than Zimmer.
Same with Nick Cave
It all depends on how the score is used.
Zimmers score either adds to the story telling or atmosphere or is just used as a name because omg Zimmer. Half his shit is entirely forgettable while some is memorable. Don't compare him to the guy whose tune you can hum and recognize. Same with Mozart. That shit became our DNA cause our parents assumed it'll make us smarter if we listen to it when babies. Ain't nobody is doing that with Zimmer. They think the kids will end up on a spectrum calling him a modern Beethoven on some defunct forum.
Really liked the movie and the soundtrack was good, i didn't like the fucking bag pipes though, but i only heard that twice lol
A good soundtrack to me is when you don't really think of it, it's so interwoven with the rest that it acts almost entirely subconsciously to give scenes more of an impact, i think he's great at that.
Didn't like Stellan (very strange casting), but i've never been a fan, i don't like his voice, his Swedish accent gets to me, Ferguson was great though, and i don't think i can hear her Swedish accent, at least its not annoying. It looked expensive (puts marvel to shame) it was more entertaining than i would have thought too. It does try very hard to be dark not a big negative for me + it does succeed with most of it.. 9/10
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That shit became our DNA cause our parents assumed it'll make us smarter if we listen to it when babies. Ain't nobody is doing that with Zimmer. They think the kids will end up on a spectrum calling him a modern Beethoven on some defunct forum.
Maybe they don't do it because this has been disproved and generally speaking, the parents of today are more informed than the parents of decades past.
That shit became our DNA cause our parents assumed it'll make us smarter if we listen to it when babies. Ain't nobody is doing that with Zimmer. They think the kids will end up on a spectrum calling him a modern Beethoven on some defunct forum.
Maybe they don't do it because this has been disproved and generally speaking, the parents of today are more informed than the parents of decades past.
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Disproven. Because music alone doesn't increase brain growth. It adds to it, and it does help.
It is proven classical music allows basic math skills to grow since the shit very structured. Jazz allows creativity to grow as well. It's unstructured, and still structured to rhythm.
Parents of today allow their kids sit on a tablet for a moment of peace and quiet. Don't allow video games because they believe it rots the brain where it has been proven it allows critical thinking to naturally grow and evolve. A skill many of today's kids lack.
So it is hard to say that parents of today know better.
As classical music helps develop basic counting skills subconsciously, so does heavy metal since it follows the same structure as classical music and doesn't create a violent environment as many parents believed back in the day and some still do today.
Parents of today go the whole Montessori route because they believe a child needs to be in tiptop shape for school, where the most and main important in early development is social, playtime, and overall kindness. Your kid counting to 10 and saying the alphabet before they're 2 is a nice party trick, but while you taught them letters and numbers they missed out on a plethora of fun activities that are replaced by screen time because you're too tired from alphabetizing your child.
So no parents of today suck hard. We all try to do what's best. At the end of the day the most important thing a parent can do is be there.
I honestly don't have high hopes for this adaptation. It's going to be too glossy; as somebody else wrote - style over substance.
I still really like David Lynch's version even though it's a bit of a mess (which is perfectly Lynchian anyway). The cast was great for that Lynchian version of Dune.
There are some really good actors in the new movie: Stellan Skarsgård, Josh Brolin, Charlotte Rampling and Javier Bardem. I like Dave Bautista and to some extent Jason Momoa but I wouldn't call them "really good actors" but we'll see how they do in Dune 2021.
All of Williams' themes are hummable and burn themselves into your brain for all eternity.
Zimmer's themes are grandiose and good for accompanying epic movie scenes, but melodically theyre forgettable and I cant hum a single one. Whenever I think of any of the good tracks from movies like Interstellar, the melody in my memory is clouded by BRRRRRT PFFFFFT sounds. its just too overproduced.
That said, Zimmer's protege, Ramin Djawadi, is the closest to a modern Williams imo, he composed very memorable themes, including GoT and Westworld.
I have not read any of the books, nor do I have any specific knowledge for this francise. From what I read this movie pretty much stops in the middle of the book, so the ending is rather anticlimatic?
And also this would mean that this movie needs to do REALLY well in order to justify a follow-up movie which will then take what, another 4 years to make?
If that is true I will rather wait with watching this rather than being disappointed that I need to go read the book to get closure...
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- Albert Camus
I have not read any of the books, nor do I have any specific knowledge for this francise. From what I read this movie pretty much stops in the middle of the book, so the ending is rather anticlimatic?
And also this would mean that this movie needs to do REALLY well in order to justify a follow-up movie which will then take what, another 4 years to make?
If that is true I will rather wait with watching this rather than being disappointed that I need to go read the book to get closure...
Villeneuve is in the process of writing the next one and said it would have to do very bad in the box office to not get a sequel, so I'm pretty sure it'll continue. Late 2023 release would be plausible.
as I already said previously, right now think of it like Fellowship of the Ring. Or Season 1 of a new TV show.
It closes an arc in the story but you're not getting the full story here yet and it's as obvious as it could be, and many things are left unexplained for now as there will be better opportunities to explore these in the sequels and spinoff TV series (Dune: Sisterhood, coming next year I guess)
That said, the author of the books passed away before giving the book series a definitive ending, so there's no complete closure here, period. (unless you count the fanfiction by his son)
Denis Villeneuve wrote:
"I would be very ready to go quite quickly. To go quickly in a movie of that size, you still need to make sets, costumes, so we are talking about months.
But if ever there's enthusiasm and the movie is greenlit sooner than later, I will say that I will be ready to shoot in 2022 for sure. I am ready to go, and I will say that I would love to bring it to the screen as soon as possible.
Everybody at Warner Bros and Legendary, they are 100 percent behind the project. They feel that it would need a really bad outcome at the box office to not have a Dune: Part Two, because they love the movie
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gonna wait for a 4k version with higher quality audio to watch it the second time I think
just skipping through a little gave me goosebumps man. what a film
hope we get an open matte version too that'd be great.
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Yeah the quality is mushy, it's not 1080p even, upscaled maybe. I have just skimmed through it and it's a movie for a big screen. Although the audio quality is actually pretty good in this release.
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watched this yesterday and... Blade Runner 2049 still best Villeneuve movie, next to Sicario.
The movie is basically about nothing, just some intro to the world. That would be somehow acceptable if they are going to make a second one... but it is not even approved yet... ffs
Watched reviews and all I read was white savior. White savior. And I'm watching first 30 minutes. White savior. fucking current day politics ruined a good story.
saw it yesterday while didnt knew anything about dune except the big worm and desert, and from the trailers
villeneuve is one of my fav directors but i think this movie is overhyped
its too long and not that much happens, or what happens dosent seem that important, probably because its only first part of a story, but still this is a movie and felt like 2-3 episodes for an hbo show. if you watch the first half of season of game of thrones and end there it dosent work. was surprised that this movie is very similar to got.
idk why they made it like this, they should have switched some things to feel like a movie more, there is no ending
but everything else from the world, music to characters is top notch.
Saw it yesterday, and thought it was kind of boring really. Never read the books, but I'm never fond of messiah/jesus allegories in scifi. Always cheapens the whole thing, as there is. no. fucking. god.
Visually it looks grand, of course.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
I'm never fond of messiah/jesus allegories in scifi. Always cheapens the whole thing, as there is. no. fucking. god.
he is seen as a messiah because he has been set up as such by the bene gesserit, for reasons yet unknown. no god involved. just humans manipulating humans for their benefit. this arc will become very very interesting in the next 2 movies.
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idk why they made it like this, they should have switched some things to feel like a movie more, there is no ending
I think it'll make more sense when the sequel is out. Having read the novels, this was a great first part that introduced us to this world and set up things for part 2 that right now may seem inconsequential, but will gain importance once you know things from the next movie.
I believe this trilogy will be legendary if they stay the course.
I get it though. I love this kinda stuff but for a lot of people it's too slow again, though overall the pace isn't so bad. not nearly as slow as BR2049 I think.
I'd still watch a 4+ hour cut of this, no question :D
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it dosent matter if ill make sense when the sequel is out, it did make sense now. i said that this movie as a standalone has no third act. would the part 2 movie be a full third act? i doubt it.
lotr are 3 movies and all 3 of them have 3 acts.
if this was not a movie but a 10 part tv show then it would have been more watchable as episodes are structured differently.
I love arrival and blade runner 2049, but this thing... was so boring its not even funny, 0 char development, snails pace, lingering shots that add nothing to the plot/chars, zendaia looking back at the cam in slow motion, a couple of good imax shots but that was it, this was very shallow and soulless, it almost seemed like mamoa didnt got the memo, he was acting like a normal human beeing, the rest, was monotoned to hell, he stood out like crazy.
I dont know what went wrong here, it seemed like he decided to focus on scenery cinematography and not much else, plot and chars are so thin, some battles happens and u dont even know whats going on or how they started, the political intrigue was barely there, its almost like the studios told him to dumb it down for the masses, but at the end of the day if u dumb this down u are left with basicaly nothing, its not something that was directed with characters in mind, when u take away plot intrigue, you are done, the suits dont know a thing about film making, they want profits, i kinda hope this bombs and theres no second part, it rly doesnt deserv one.
Lot of critics calling this a masterpiece, thats an insult to some of the great classic masterpieces over the years, this director was rambling about lawrence of the arabia before the release of this movie, give me a break..
The main actor is terrible and it shows in the book hand scene, also that tent scene he has with his mother, terrible acting and directing proly also. Mccalan was about his age when he did the lync version and he looked like a grown ass man, i dont know why they keep going for these ppl that look like teenagers, its rly off putting, they dont have the same gravitas.
no idea why people would think this is "snails pace" or boring. i'm a person who usually wants to walk out of the cinema halfway through because i usually like to do something else after a while - take a walk, mess with music, graphics or modding or play a game and then come back with new interest/energy. i found myself entertained all the way through because something interesting was always happening. clear 9/10, same league as Blade Runner 2049, but perhaps a little more entertaining. might change my mind after seeing it again, dunno.. as for BR2049 it only got better after the second viewing.
why would they go for someone who looks "grown up", Paul Atreides in the book is 15.
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not a big negative for me + it does succeed with most of it.. 9/10
fucking current day politics ruined a good story.
