Elden Ring (Miyazaki + George R.R. Martin)
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Oct 2021 22:58    Post subject:
looks terrible indeed, the gameplay needs to be really stellar for this to be a hit. god of war on PS4 is generations ahead of this.

of course, it's alpha or beta stage but unfortunately usually very little happens in the graphical department from this stage, maybe apart from downgrades Laughing
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Surray




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 09:01    Post subject:
looks mostly like dark souls 3/sekiro from a technical standpoint, which I'm 100% fine with.

from games never prioritize graphics. they focus on what actually matters.

I'm sure there's gonna be awesome enemies and beautiful environments but especially with open world you're gonna have some views that look worse than others.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 09:37    Post subject:
imho Sekiro looked way better...

I guess they had to downgrade graphics for the sake of the old consoles that just can't handle open world games with graphics like Sekiro...+ I wouldn't be surprised if their old engine just couldn't handle properly open world settings..


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 09:38    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
looks mostly like dark souls 3/sekiro from a technical standpoint, which I'm 100% fine with.

from games never prioritize graphics. they focus on what actually matters.

I'm sure there's gonna be awesome enemies and beautiful environments but especially with open world you're gonna have some views that look worse than others.
I agree with this, up to the point of the "never prioritize graphics". Prioritizing revenue by still including the last derpsole generation is more like it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 09:59    Post subject:
FROM's highest end game ever (graphically) Bloodborne, which was a system seller financed by Sony, still wasn't anywhere near the cutting edge of graphics and had stuff like no moving mouths still

graphics technology just isn't their strong point


would it have looked better if it wasn't on the last gen consoles? sure, but that was never gonna happen. that'd be fucking stupid on their side. and it would still not look as good as Demon's Souls PS5 for sure
if you let me choose between Bluepoint's technical prowess and FROM's gorgeous designs, I'd choose FROM every time.



h0rnyfavn wrote:
imho Sekiro looked way better...

I mean.. it's more colorful. I don't think Sekiro looks way better than some of the screenshots we've seen of Elden Ring.
places that look better than some random 20s video of a dude in a barren spot in the open world, with ??? settings and time of day and weather.
probably one of the least interesting places you can find graphically


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to me that looks great


update: the leaked gameplay is from base xbox one apparently...


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 12:25    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
from games never prioritize graphics. they focus on what actually matters.

I'm sure there's gonna be ... beautiful environments but especially with open world you're gonna have some views that look worse than others.


Rolling Eyes Facepalm

That's almost delusional.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 13:47    Post subject:
That leaked footage doesn't look final at all tbh, those trees look like placeholder jank.


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Surray




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 14:25    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Surray wrote:
from games never prioritize graphics. they focus on what actually matters.

I'm sure there's gonna be ... beautiful environments but especially with open world you're gonna have some views that look worse than others.


:roll: :facepalm:

That's almost delusional.


not at all. when I say graphics I mean the technical aspects of it.
you can have beauty without having cutting edge graphics
it's design, art style and aesthetics vs technical sophistication

dark souls often has amazing views while not having amazing graphics.
you can also quite easily find places that don't look great.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 14:58    Post subject:
A bunch of "content creators" that have seen gameplay footage already stated that technically this game looks like a souped up version of DS3.
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pho08




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 15:20    Post subject:
seeing as we cannot buy new GPUs anyway in the forseeable future, i'd be fine with that if the rest of the game reflects FROM SOFTWARE quality
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 15:44    Post subject:
What a great way of thinking. You can't buy a gpu, so the game must look like it was made during the PS3 era. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 15:48    Post subject:
Who the heck has time to sit and admire the world in a from software game? Laughing
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 15:58    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Who the heck has time to sit and admire the world in a from software game? Laughing


This isn't like their previous though, in a open world game exploration and moving more slowly is a thing, better graphics would add to the experience more than in something more enclosed where you're mostly fighting.

It's just a little sad that we have 3+ year old open world indie games looking better i think. Or compare this to Horizon or God of War on the PS4, and those games are already old while this isn't out in a while.

What it comes down to is that they're cheapskates because they know they already have a large fanbase, the game will have solid reviews with some complaints about the dated graphics. They'll manage fine. Personally i think companies owns it to the fans to try to stay ahead both in gameplay and in graphics.


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 16:03    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Who the heck has time to sit and admire the world in a from software game? Laughing


It's your problem if you didn't stop to admire Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, Archdragon Peak, etc.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 16:25    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Danyutz wrote:
Who the heck has time to sit and admire the world in a from software game? Laughing


It's your problem if you didn't stop to admire Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, Archdragon Peak, etc.


A major problem, i won't be able to sleep at night now.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 16:34    Post subject:
Look at you getting offended over your artistic ignorance, cute. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 17:54    Post subject:
What's stopping you from stopping in a Dark Souls game?
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 18:19    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Surray wrote:
from games never prioritize graphics. they focus on what actually matters.

I'm sure there's gonna be ... beautiful environments but especially with open world you're gonna have some views that look worse than others.


Rolling Eyes Facepalm

That's almost delusional.


not at all. when I say graphics I mean the technical aspects of it.
you can have beauty without having cutting edge graphics
it's design, art style and aesthetics vs technical sophistication

dark souls often has amazing views while not having amazing graphics.
you can also quite easily find places that don't look great.


I knew you'd say that.®

But you can't say graphics and limit yourself to the 'technical aspect of it'. Graphics is a broad term.

Therefore, for example, an artistic Bloodborne level / world might be 10x times harder to create - due to subjectivity - than the next-gen tech features that one might add to the engine.

In conclusion, graphics matter. A lot. Heck, even Paper Please, with it's apparent simplicity, can be defined as an artistic work.

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What's stopping you from stopping in a Dark Souls game?


There's no 'Stop' button on the derpad. Cool Face


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 18:21    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
What a great way of thinking. You can't buy a gpu, so the game must look like it was made during the PS3 era. Rolling Eyes

Thats not what i said at all ^^

It was just the fatalistic realization that it wont matter for the likes of me anyway since the trusty old gpu wont do UHD max details anyway

Sorry if you felt offended
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 18:42    Post subject:
Why would I feel offended? Smile

Even if they would do something more technologically advanced, this game will still lag behind the current gen graphics. From Software has never kept up with the times, not sure if it's engine related or the studio's approach.

The video in question looks pretty bad. It's most likely an alpha, but I don't expect any miracles from the final version. Even in the screenshots and trailers the game don't look that much better than Dark Souls 3.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 19:00    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
From Software has never kept up with the times, not sure if it's engine related or the studio's approach.
Dude ? This is one of the few companies where every one of their games has been way ahead of their times in terms of gameplay. Their games are already close to perfection, now you want exceptional graphics as well. I'll trade graphics for gameplay any time of the day. Why is it that I don't see the same amount of criticism aimed at exceptional looking games with shit gameplay ? It's always about the graphics, blah.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 19:12    Post subject:
I'll trade graphics for more than 1 game a decade any day of the week, sadly many don't think as far.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 19:41    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
now you want exceptional graphics as well.


How do you know what I want?

Vikerness wrote:
Why is it that I don't see the same amount of criticism aimed at exceptional looking games with shit gameplay ? It's always about the graphics, blah.


This statement is an aberration. You are replying to me, why are you generalizing now? This makes it sound as if I don't comment on games with poor gameplay.

Vikerness wrote:
It's always about the graphics, blah.


What's with the bias? It's about everything. This is going to be a 60-70euro game. Why do From Software get a pass on things and others don't? Just because their games excel at something it means they must remain frozen in time? Rolling Eyes So, because Call of Duty upped the customizations for the FPS genre, the series should continue with Quake 3 graphics?
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 22:35    Post subject:
Then again from soft was never famous for pretty graphics (remember the treelines in the distance in DS? Very Happy)
...and yet pretty much all of their games had an impact on gaming as a whole.

I am not debating your point but i am not surprised that this being their first open world game will not necessarily push any visual boundaries in gaming
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Oct 2021 22:38    Post subject:
DS graphics were terrible indeed
from my mod dark souls flora overhaul, before after:
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The original leaf image is like 128x128 Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2021 00:06    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Vikerness wrote:
now you want exceptional graphics as well.


How do you know what I want?

Vikerness wrote:
Why is it that I don't see the same amount of criticism aimed at exceptional looking games with shit gameplay ? It's always about the graphics, blah.


This statement is an aberration. You are replying to me, why are you generalizing now? This makes it sound as if I don't comment on games with poor gameplay.

Vikerness wrote:
It's always about the graphics, blah.


What's with the bias? It's about everything. This is going to be a 60-70euro game. Why do From Software get a pass on things and others don't? Just because their games excel at something it means they must remain frozen in time? Rolling Eyes So, because Call of Duty upped the customizations for the FPS genre, the series should continue with Quake 3 graphics?


id rather take from softs approach than the approch of many shit companies out there.

what do they get a pass on?
they try new stuff with their games.
sekiro, bloodborne and ds might be similar but have different key mechanics.

they never overpromised in the graphical department and never showed of fake footage.

dont like the gfx and because of that find it too expensive? dont buy it keep consuming carbon copies like far cry 6 etc. at least those have gud gfx right?

P.s.: maybe this is final footage, maybe its not. maybe its an early version, maybe its not? maybe its a ps4 version but there is a next gen version, maybe theres not?

maybe you should get a panic attack after devs release official footage or the game itself gets released, just saying
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2021 00:18    Post subject:
lametta wrote:

they never overpromised in the graphical department and never showed of fake footage.


So, we are letting DS2 slide?

lametta wrote:

maybe you should get a panic attack after devs release official footage or the game itself gets released, just saying


Who's getting a panic attack? Are people not allowed to comment on the leaked footage of From Software? Laughing

pho08 wrote:

I am not debating your point but i am not surprised that this being their first open world game will not necessarily push any visual boundaries in gaming


I don't think anybody is asking for that, at least not around here. But by the looks of it this game is not even trying to reach some of the games that came during the mid PS4 era. I don't understand how asking for something like this is a sacrilege for some people. I guess people don't want complete games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Oct 2021 14:02    Post subject:
Why don't any of these sword wielding games have the sword sheathed until used?

Pretty sure metal swords are heavy and not something you'd be waving around until needed.

And yeh, I know it's only a game and fantasy etc, but still, it's 2021 and not 2001, PC's have moved on!

Sekiro has a mod that does this and really looks good, and a tad more realistic.
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