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Surray




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 11:13    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
Surray wrote:
but I'll stick with the classic version.

Do you do anything special to play that? I think I had technical issues, though maybe that just me not wanting to play in an 800 x 600 window on a 4K screen Laughing


Previously we used some glide wrapper but now I'd suggest D2DX https://github.com/bolrog/d2dx

We play TCP/IP so can't vouch for closed bnet usage. probably not safe.





Breezer_ wrote:
Not sure why anyone would play old D2 over D2R, they are same game expect D2R looks 100x times better.


Well I already own D2 and D2R is 40€. That's a decent reason right there.
And cracked is not an option without TCP/IP as I only ever play these kinds of games coop. 0 interest in single player.
Last time we played the Path of Diablo mod which was great fun, and would be impossible in D2R.


Graphics do look great in D2R but it's also just graphics, doesn't really matter to me.
The 60 FPS and widescreen matters but you get that with D2DX


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 11:58    Post subject:
Ah cool, thx! I think last time I checked, it didn't support the latest version and I couldn't test that.

I think I might try that and determine if I really want to play D2 (vanilla) and then maybe get D2:R.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 12:03    Post subject:
I checked the video linked @ D2DX github and it looks like the engine itself is sped up by over 100% which isn't a good thing. It may be an illusion but with movement, animations, monsters etc. being sped up it's not the same actual speed as the original game. Oh well.. D2R, let's when/if the PC version is "snapped". Right now the only version available is a cracked Switch version running on Ryujinx.


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Surray




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 12:19    Post subject:
all it does is interpolate sprite movement between real frames so it has no effect on the actual speed of anything like entities or projectiles.

probably just looks sped up because you've never seen it run at 60 fps before


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Frant
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 12:26    Post subject:
Perhaps. D2R still looks better and more natural (which is to be expected since it's a new or heavily modified rendering engine on top of the original game engine).


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Nui
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 13:17    Post subject:
Higher frame rates can cause the illusion of faster movement in my experience.

There is no doubt in my mind, that D2R looks much better. I just want to check D2DX to see if I like the gameplay after all these years and if I can justify roping a friend into buying it as well for MP. Smile

With the original resolution and 25 fps though I would get sick of the game before evaluating the gameplay. I actually forgot about the frame rate. My mind corrected it to 50. Probably because its too absurd for me to recognize as plausible Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 20:46    Post subject:
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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 20:58    Post subject:
Yes, it was like that. They didn't change the gameplay, they didn't even bother to fix known bugs. Next time set a TP next to the waypoint. "Corpse running" is another reason I don't bother to buy this. I also don't like the constant skill switching and that you're always low on mana and have to buy/collect/manage potions. It's too annoying, after playing similar games with better mechanics.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 21:00    Post subject:
a simple autoloot filter for certain potions /runes/ gems would be so easy, but all them purists would rather die then allow it zzz , they rather get wrist rsi then even discuss it
, yet they accepted gold zzzz
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briangw




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 22:59    Post subject:
A trick I read on Reddit last night: in terms of preventing "Death" from taking a portion of your Gold (yes, even if you have it in your Stash), is to dump all your savings into your shared stash. If you store it all in there, Death won't take it. Otherwise, it gets taken either on your person, in your personal stash or both.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 23:03    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
A trick I read on Reddit last night: in terms of preventing "Death" from taking a portion of your Gold (yes, even if you have it in your Stash), is to dump all your savings into your shared stash. If you store it all in there, Death won't take it. Otherwise, it gets taken either on your person, in your personal stash or both.


That has always been the way to prevent death taking all your gold. But they could of just added a few QoL features to make it a better experience. Fuck the purists. I already uninstalled this game.

Same reason WoW classic could of been so much better. People wanted the nostalgia experience but we all know no such thing exists and everyone already knows how to min/max their characters.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Sep 2021 23:09    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
a simple autoloot filter for certain potions /runes/ gems would be so easy, but all them purists would rather die then allow it zzz , they rather get wrist rsi then even discuss it
, yet they accepted gold zzzz


Yeah, long discussion on Reddit about that too lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/pwe4ef/feature_request_show_item_level_in_the_item/
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 09:23    Post subject:
Players:

We want Diablol 2 Remusthaved!

Blizzard:

You think you do, but you don't!

Spoiler:

Blizzard was right this time.


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 09:31    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 09:42    Post subject:
The shared stash allows you to share items between your own characters, not between players. I think.


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 09:43    Post subject:
I think it would be cool if blizzard now started to implement more changes, especially if the community asks for it. Like a hotbar for skills.


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 11:25    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 12:13    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Players:

We want Diablol 2 Remusthaved!

Blizzard:

You think you do, but you don't!

Spoiler:

Blizzard was right this time.


Sadly they were.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 12:15    Post subject:
Everyone was with D3 like "omg D2 so much better", now when its remastered without touching the core game itself, everyone is crying how oldschool it is Laughing Best bet for modern D2 will be D4, atleast to me it looks like that.

Only changes what i would like for D2R is hotbar for skills and better modern inventory system, like stackable potions and stuff, i feel like inventory is full every minute.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 12:51    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 13:59    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Everyone was with D3 like "omg D2 so much better", now when its remastered without touching the core game itself, everyone is crying how oldschool it is Laughing Best bet for modern D2 will be D4, atleast to me it looks like that.

Only changes what i would like for D2R is hotbar for skills and better modern inventory system, like stackable potions and stuff, i feel like inventory is full every minute.


Smile) It depends on the type of players who try it. There are a lot of people who just now are playing it for the first time and they love it.

I guess it also depends on how often you play older games. Despite the fact that us pc gamer folk started crying about consolization and dumbing down around the end of the 00's, as games were devolving into console multiplatform development, in the meantime a lot of people got accustomed to automatization and magnetism and handholding - and they're now calling them "quality of life features" Laughing And going back to how games used to be feels "archaic" now. When you want to mellee an enemy, you needed to actually connect the pixels to hit it, now you're magnetizing the hit when you enter the enemy vecinity. The game playing itself is a quality of life feature.

I saw a thread these past few days about the Kotor remake, what "quality of life features" it should have. Fast travel, action combat, succint and short dialogue options, not crpg-like lines of text. Quality of life
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 14:45    Post subject:
I played Diablo 2 when it released and enjoyed it for a couple of normal difficulty playthroughs. I tried Diablo 3 and watched my GF play through it, but it was so insultingly easy that I ended up hating the game despite it's several improvements over Diablo 2, and I very rarely hate a game. IMO the remake is the best of the three, despite it's flaws. It doesn't waste my time like Diablo 3.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 15:06    Post subject:
I love it.

It's the 'old' experience with nice QOL and perfect visuals.

Not something you're gonna play for too many months but I love that I can drop in and out of this whenever I feel like it.

No auto-delete characters either (unless you play in the first 48 hours and get unlucky, gotem)
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2021 15:12    Post subject:
has it been confirmed they wont delete after 90 days ? source ?
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W123




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Sep 2021 03:05    Post subject:
This is fantastic, i've been playing non stop when i can anyway. Like im in middle school again doin the ole Mephisto slot machine.

Personally i want rune stacking or a rune stash like PoE does with all their shitty currency items. Thats pretty much the only QoL im missing right now.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Sep 2021 06:21    Post subject:
Goddamn! I actually have to use mathematics in this game and my brain is required to play Mad

I prefer D3 where i just buy everything and respec my build into whatever some streamer is doing, how do you keep track of all these numbers?!? I'd prefer if there was just 1 stat I needed to make a bigger number, its missing "that d3 feeling".
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Sep 2021 16:23    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Goddamn! I actually have to use mathematics in this game and my brain is required to play Mad

I prefer D3 where i just buy everything and respec my build into whatever some streamer is doing, how do you keep track of all these numbers?!? I'd prefer if there was just 1 stat I needed to make a bigger number, its missing "that d3 feeling".



What math? just go to icy veins or wowhead and get your maxed out build specs.


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Oct 2021 17:51    Post subject:
Is it just me or they nerfed the ground textures to optimize the game?
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Oct 2021 20:11    Post subject:
had zero performance problems with the game, retarded if they did that, you can always lower settings if game doesnt run well?.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Oct 2021 20:45    Post subject:
That won't help if the issues are game related.
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