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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 15:20    Post subject:
nope, i used twitch key drop that gave me beta acces without pre order, i aint wc3 refunded stupido

I really had fun watching noob gamers who only played like elder scrolls online and hold ur hand games sofar struggle with this game dieng over and over to lightning bosses like raganishu at the cain stones and the big bear in the forest guarding the tree stone map

they dont understand stamina , dont have the run key working so litterally walking everywere dead slow, dont understand to spam potions or any of the basic stats Laughing , they have never ever in their life bought more then one potion at a time Very Happy

my prediction : nostalgia people will quit after their 50th baalrun of no good drops or 20th countess run of not getting the rune they need, noobs will quit after their 20th death to duriel

game will flop playerbase active users engagement wize longterm cause we all played this shit a thousand times over, and blizzard will all of a sudden announce old d2 bnet will shut down and everyone needs to buy this shit, cause kotick sure as hell wont pay for an employee n money to keep those old servers around not making him any bonus money

ill try on my igpu win10 laptop later, but in no rush, having a blast just watching noobies play and die sofar Smile
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 15:45    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:

ill try on my igpu win10 laptop later, but in no rush, having a blast just watching noobies play and die sofar Smile


lol have fun with that i would definitely keep a fire extinguisher handy just in case Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 16:00    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
nope, i used twitch key drop that gave me beta acces without pre order, i aint wc3 refunded stupido

I really had fun watching noob gamers who only played like elder scrolls online and hold ur hand games sofar struggle with this game dieng over and over to lightning bosses like raganishu at the cain stones and the big bear in the forest guarding the tree stone map

they dont understand stamina , dont have the run key working so litterally walking everywere dead slow, dont understand to spam potions or any of the basic stats Laughing , they have never ever in their life bought more then one potion at a time Very Happy

my prediction : nostalgia people will quit after their 50th baalrun of no good drops or 20th countess run of not getting the rune they need, noobs will quit after their 20th death to duriel

game will flop playerbase active users engagement wize longterm cause we all played this shit a thousand times over, and blizzard will all of a sudden announce old d2 bnet will shut down and everyone needs to buy this shit, cause kotick sure as hell wont pay for an employee n money to keep those old servers around not making him any bonus money

ill try on my igpu win10 laptop later, but in no rush, having a blast just watching noobies play and die sofar Smile


If we know one thing in this world, is how accurate your predictions are...
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 22:05    Post subject:
That's how predictions work. Most of the time you best think predictions don't come true as they're based on nothing
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 22:42    Post subject:
tried it on my win10 ryzen 3500u , ran 15-25 fps , horrible performance for such shitty plane gfx , when d3 run at 60+ fps zzz

classic mode /g) ran 60 fps , capped fps ? , i never saw it go above 60 and didnt see a vsync ?

But seriously how do these retards not know there is a gpu scarcity and then release such an unoptimized junk roflol, they truly are delirious at blizzard, they have the biggest potato pc customer base almost in the world with wo rld of warcrack potatos en then they do this to those customers

i bet u this dx12 only bullshithas to do with it, dx11 would have run a ton smoother

no ingame runeword guide or cube crafting guide, no breakpoints, no monster log of how many i killed , laaaaazyyyy


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 22:46    Post subject:
You are running it on an igpu?

Anyway, runs smooth as hell on my i7-6700, 16gb ram and a 3070... vsync on 75fps all the time..

Not boasting, just saying.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 22:48    Post subject:
yes vega 8 , with 1080p = 20 fps in town everything low , 720p (50 percent pixel scale?) gets me 40 and actually feeks more nostalgic lol as everything is jaggy like in original

i can run world of tanks and d3 at 60 fps in medium , so its just shit optimized

ping was dreadfull btw , between 90-230ms ??
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 23:01    Post subject:
D3 is 10 years old and wot isn't that much younger, either, lol.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Aug 2021 23:18    Post subject:
There are some areas with performance issues. I had no problems in Act 1, but in Act 2's Maggot Lair and some other area the game was a stuttering fest. However, the lag is the most prominent issue of this Beta for me at least.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 03:50    Post subject:
I had one outright freeze, 2 server de-syncs, and one strange bug where pulling up the merchant interface in Act 1 would halve my FPS. Apart from that it was pretty solid.

Still, they need to add stuff like auto-inventory sort, 360 degree movement, and one button casting to the mouse and keyboard control scheme -all those features work with a controller already, but playing D2 on a controller is akin to the highest form of blasphemy imaginable.


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 06:08    Post subject:
It's so much better with controller though.
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 10:23    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
yes vega 8 , with 1080p = 20 fps in town everything low , 720p (50 percent pixel scale?) gets me 40 and actually feeks more nostalgic lol as everything is jaggy like in original

i can run world of tanks and d3 at 60 fps in medium , so its just shit optimized

ping was dreadfull btw , between 90-230ms ??


Yeah considering the tech and how it looks this is by far the worst performing game i have seen in years, even on low the performance sucks and looks worse then legacy mode Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 12:04    Post subject:
Not sure if serious. Rolling Eyes
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 12:37    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Not sure if serious. Rolling Eyes


Oh i am serious this game should run on a toaster it has no business being this demanding as it is it requires a mid to high end system that's just a joke.
I mean we all know what's going on there was 0 optimization passes done on the engine so far there are tons of bugs, features are cut left and right and the devs are probably crunching like crazy to somehow get this out on all platforms next month.

After seeing the PC and console versions i don't even want to imagine how the switch version looks atm there is probably a very good reason there is no beta for it.

And it all comes down to Blizzard demanding it, this thing absolutely has to sell before the next quarterly report so there is no delaying anymore. After the whole shitshow going on in the last few weeks stocks crashed and they absolutely need to sell something to get the investors to calm down a bit.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 13:01    Post subject:
At this point, you're just trolling, right?
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 13:15    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
At this point, you're just trolling, right?


Dunno maybe you just have way lower standards then me or it really somehow magically works absolutely fine for you but that doesn't mean it's like that for everyone.


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 13:18    Post subject:
So ... are they gonna make entirely new game(s) or will do remaster after remaster?
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 13:25    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
At this point, you're just trolling, right?


Dunno maybe you just have way lower standards then me or it really somehow magically works absolutely fine for you but that doesn't mean it's like that for everyone.


Seems fine for the vast majority of people...

And PUA is bitching and moaning about everything and everyone, so he is not really a reference and by the looks of it, neither seems you...

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Oh i am serious this game should run on a toaster it has no business being this demanding as it is it requires a mid to high end system that's just a joke.
I mean we all know what's going on there was 0 optimization passes done on the engine so far there are tons of bugs, features are cut left and right and the devs are probably crunching like crazy to somehow get this out on all platforms next month.




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eah considering the tech and how it looks this is by far the worst performing game i have seen in years, even on low the performance sucks and looks worse then legacy mode


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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 13:48    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
At this point, you're just trolling, right?


Dunno maybe you just have way lower standards then me or it really somehow magically works absolutely fine for you but that doesn't mean it's like that for everyone.


Seems fine for the vast majority of people...

And PUA is bitching and moaning about everything and everyone, so he is not really a reference and by the looks of it, neither seems you...

Quote:
Oh i am serious this game should run on a toaster it has no business being this demanding as it is it requires a mid to high end system that's just a joke.
I mean we all know what's going on there was 0 optimization passes done on the engine so far there are tons of bugs, features are cut left and right and the devs are probably crunching like crazy to somehow get this out on all platforms next month.




Quote:
eah considering the tech and how it looks this is by far the worst performing game i have seen in years, even on low the performance sucks and looks worse then legacy mode


...


That's just idiotic this game looks like something from 10+ years ago it shouldn't be as demanding as cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing on no matter what you say lol
Even if we consider similar games like wolcen or Lost Ark they look and perform way better.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 13:55    Post subject:
https://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3364543#3364543

Runs perfectly fine. And looks great (minus YouTube compression).
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 14:08    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
https://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3364543#3364543

Runs perfectly fine. And looks great (minus YouTube compression).


That's completely meaningless again it just means it somehow works for you it's actually pretty ridiculous you don't seem to get this after playing games on pc for so long.

Plus it's practically a given this game performs far worse on older hardware cause it's DX12 only. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 15:02    Post subject:
"it somehow works for you".

Ok, at this point, there is really no sense to even attempt a discussion with you, lol.

Bye.
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 15:04    Post subject:
And now you are just acting like a kid Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 16:00    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
"it somehow works for you".

Ok, at this point, there is really no sense to even attempt a discussion with you, lol.

Bye.


Seriously, you don't understand how performance can differ from one setup to another on PC? Laughing

There are also some things called expectations and bias which influence perception of performance. It can go both ways, but usually people have the impressions the games just work just fine for them when they really don't. I met a few cases when people were saying various games worked fine for them and when I played them on their PCs, the games were struggling to maintain 30fps and were stuttering often.

tet666 wrote:
And now you are just acting like a kid Laughing


I'm still waiting for him to act as an adult.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 16:34    Post subject:
They suffer performance issues by playing it on potatoes...

...but you keep trolling, boy.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 16:49    Post subject:
Lemme ask something just to clarify things up (and clean up the trolling mess?)

1. Game runs great on actual gaming PCs (Let's say RYZEN 3700x, 2070 RTX, etc) or no matter how great it is, it has stutterings and other performance issues?

2.Will the game still force ya to login onto BNET and suffer from ping even if you play solo (like D3 did?)?..Couldn't they, dunno... Make an offline only installer for offline play or somehting like old times?

3. How would online work?.. Own server itself again?

No, this isn't trolling. Just asking honestly. Do not troll in return..


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 17:01    Post subject:
Watch my video in the let's play section. It runs smoothly.

There is singleplayer, you still need to login (launcher like all Blizzard games) and it's most likely locally hosted (tech alpha was locally).
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 17:13    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
They suffer performance issues by playing it on potatoes...

...but you keep trolling, boy.


I probably have a better PC than you boyo and the game performs poorly in certain areas for me. Laughing Also, this is a 2D game.

Given your knowledge in technical matters, I have a feeling you left the resolution scaling on the default value which is below 100.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 18:13    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
They suffer performance issues by playing it on potatoes...

...but you keep trolling, boy.


I probably have a better PC than you boyo and the game performs poorly in certain areas for me. Laughing Also, this is a 2D game.

Given your knowledge in technical matters, I have a feeling you left the resolution scaling on the default value which is below 100.


He's one of those who sits on the steam forums on games he likes and makes sure he posts in every tech help thread of bad performance "works fine for me" as if the thousands of varying computer hardware and setups couldn't possibly present bugs/performance issues to people.

Sounds like those Americans here who say "I got covid, it's just a flu"


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 18:16    Post subject:
it runs horribly unfortunately on some areas or even if you open the inventory or/merchant inventory.
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