LOST ARK (MMORPG)
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KillaSeven




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Nov 2019 04:53    Post subject:
Yeah but I don't like to deal with VPN and pay for that so I don't mind waiting Smile.


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babioraz




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Nov 2019 08:32    Post subject:
Exitlag (VPN) let's you to try it for free for 3 days and maybe you will be hooked later (i'm sure you will) to pay 5 eur/month for playing this hidden gem.

I'm usually against eastern mmo's, but this time... after trying it i couldn't put it down. pls send help.

i've played D3 for 800 hours, PoE for 3700 hours, Grim Dawn for hundreds hours, ofc D1, D2, Titan Quest and all that, but Lost Ark shocked me how polished it is.

If you are an aRPG fan, this is the MUST PLAY or at least try it until it's in open beta status.

And in a wildest predictions - Diablo 9 will be somewhat close to Lost Ark in terms of all aspects. But just... maybe.
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Mikey5449
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Nov 2019 15:38    Post subject:
babioraz wrote:
Exitlag (VPN) let's you to try it for free for 3 days and maybe you will be hooked later (i'm sure you will) to pay 5 eur/month for playing this hidden gem.

I'm usually against eastern mmo's, but this time... after trying it i couldn't put it down. pls send help.

i've played D3 for 800 hours, PoE for 3700 hours, Grim Dawn for hundreds hours, ofc D1, D2, Titan Quest and all that, but Lost Ark shocked me how polished it is.

If you are an aRPG fan, this is the MUST PLAY or at least try it until it's in open beta status.

And in a wildest predictions - Diablo 9 will be somewhat close to Lost Ark in terms of all aspects. But just... maybe.

How in the world do you have that much time? It takes me months to finish a game.


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Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Nov 2019 20:32    Post subject:
Game feels great, combat is "cool", playing devil hunter, one thing feels fucking odd, you are playing korean MMO that does not feel korean, it has google translate english text and russian voice overs Laughing.. Graphics looks very nice at times, art style is good aswell, i am not still fan of the over the top korean female characters tho, would love to have option to change gender for all classes (models are nice tho). Questing feels good, it doesnt feel like grind like rest korean shit.

babioraz wrote:
Exitlag (VPN) let's you to try it for free for 3 days and maybe you will be hooked later (i'm sure you will) to pay 5 eur/month for playing this hidden gem.

I'm usually against eastern mmo's, but this time... after trying it i couldn't put it down. pls send help.

i've played D3 for 800 hours, PoE for 3700 hours, Grim Dawn for hundreds hours, ofc D1, D2, Titan Quest and all that, but Lost Ark shocked me how polished it is.

If you are an aRPG fan, this is the MUST PLAY or at least try it until it's in open beta status.

And in a wildest predictions - Diablo 9 will be somewhat close to Lost Ark in terms of all aspects. But just... maybe.


I did not think i would like it aswell (it has always looked too good to be true in trailers etc), nice surprise, having a blast at the moment. End game seems to be damn amazing, so much content.
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babioraz




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Nov 2019 23:47    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Game feels great, combat is "cool", playing devil hunter, one thing feels fucking odd, you are playing korean MMO that does not feel korean, it has google translate english text and russian voice overs Laughing.. Graphics looks very nice at times, art style is good aswell, i am not still fan of the over the top korean female characters tho, would love to have option to change gender for all classes (models are nice tho). Questing feels good, it doesnt feel like grind like rest korean shit.

I did not think i would like it aswell (it has always looked too good to be true in trailers etc), nice surprise, having a blast at the moment. End game seems to be damn amazing, so much content.



absolutely agree on all points. Usually i try to steer away from eastern content because it's very eastern Smile But this time it's different and i'm a bit afraid how addicting it is.
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Thorwulf




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 16:21    Post subject:
I found the introduction (up to the fight with the fire demon) incredibly boring.
Go here, kill that, fetch this etc. The mobs also seems to be waiting around until you are close by.
Once you complete the quest you just ignore them and run to the next quest.

From all the praise here i assume it gets better?
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babioraz




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2019 16:53    Post subject:
Thorwulf wrote:
I found the introduction (up to the fight with the fire demon) incredibly boring.
Go here, kill that, fetch this etc. The mobs also seems to be waiting around until you are close by.
Once you complete the quest you just ignore them and run to the next quest.

From all the praise here i assume it gets better?


Yes, start is slow a bit, but they catter for wider audience, so it needs to be explained what one or another button does while doing quests. After one hour or so game is starting to pick up the pace. Yes, there are quest still (but don't all games have quests?), but they are much more engaging - complete a dungeon, or kill a world boss. You can pick difficulty of dungeons and i suggest hard mode because normal ones are too easy - well at least for me. Then you find treasure maps - you go there and kill boss or bosses. And i don't wanna spoil too much, but later on it's much more interesting while there are some fetch quests in between.
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babioraz




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Nov 2019 17:59    Post subject:
kinda long video, but this is the most sincere in depth review with pros and cons of every aspect of the game. Ofc everything has evolved sinced then, but still this kinda famous and funny diablo and poe streamer touches almost all issues of the game and will definitely help decide if you wanna try this Korean creation.

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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 05:16    Post subject:
not launching incorona 2020 is like the dumbest move in history ...
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mco2vie




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 21:57    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1599340/Lost_Ark/

for uncle diego player you can add the game disconected from steam & when you reconnect the price will swtich to ars


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 22:00    Post subject:
It's a free to play game anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 22:09    Post subject:
mco2vie wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1599340/Lost_Ark/

for uncle diego player you can add the game disconected from steam & when you reconnect the price will swtich to ars


Elaborate please


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mco2vie




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 22:19    Post subject:
JHawkins wrote:
mco2vie wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1599340/Lost_Ark/

for uncle diego player you can add the game disconected from steam & when you reconnect the price will swtich to ars


Elaborate please

add " Lost Ark Platinum Founder's Pack" 100euros to your steam cart you need to be disconected from steam then log to your account
the price will siwtch to 1019 ars (10euro)


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sabathius___




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 22:21    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1599340/Lost_Ark/




What region we're talking about?? Not available in mine.


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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 22:22    Post subject:
or, yknow

open web console and javascript:addToCart(588543);
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jun 2021 23:46    Post subject: .
Edit: game get removed from cart when i log in
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tet666




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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 08:41    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Still works:
https://www.mmobomb.com/giveaway/lost-ark-alpha-key-giveaway-steam/


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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 10:43    Post subject:
Played the alpha for a bit but the annoying watermark just completely kills my mood i know it's there to protect the nda but i can't really ignore it, will try again at release what i played of the game itself was pretty fun.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 12:02    Post subject:
From Steam forums:

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My comprehensive experience on LAO RU and LAO KR

The game is pay to win.

I'm not going to bother arguing with people about the definition of pay to win. However, I'm going to write everything I experienced in the game, so you can decide whether you want to play or not.

The game is action combat, like Tera/BDO/Diablo 3. However, the camera is Isometric, like Diablo 3.

During release, the game will be gated, so people can pay to increase their item levels faster, but if you play normally and do your daily/weekly farming, you can reach the same ilvl as the whales because ilvl is hard capped, meaning there's a max you can reach at the time.

However, once the hardcap is lifted, the next patch will bring you to the softcapped ilvl. If you did your daily/weekly farming as efficiently as possible for a week you might be able to get to 700-800 ilvl from 550. The problem starts here, there's no hardcap, so if you are a whale and wants to dump $10,000 to $20,000 into the game. You can reach the softcap which is about 1200-1300 ilvl in 1 week. Since the powercreep in LAO is exponential, it means someone with 1200-1300 ilvl will do 5-10 times the damage you do.

The problem is, in order to reach 1200-1300 ilvl without spending any real money, you are going to have to farm for about 3-5 years as the average player. There are some players that have 10 different accounts and they will farm on all of them to maximize their gold per day.

Other than gear, there are also food, potions, combat necessities which all cost gold. Another big thing is engravings. Engravings are something you put on your rings, they will then give you a passive buff that stay with you at all times outside of the arena.

Since there are whales they probably have the right engravings(which also cost millions of gold at this stage of the game btw and increase your damage in PVE by 20-30% for each engraving, you can have 2 active engravings at a time.) To put millions of gold into perspective, everyday you get 3 tickets to farm ingredients, whether for alchemy, fishing, hunting, whatever. With some luck, you can make a couple hundred gold per 1 ticket.

Now comes Season 2. The ilvl limit will increase once again as new gear/bosses comes out. On average the f2p players reached about 900-1000 when season 2 started. the whales once again reached 1500+ in the first week or two, hitting the softcap and becoming 10-15 times stronger than the people at 1000.

It's been 6 months or so since Season 2 released. The average ilvl is between 1200-1300 for the f2p people who aren't farming on multiple accounts. Which is basically the soft cap for f2p players.

Now I will explain how the soft cap works. After the first phase of the game. The game use a similar upgrade system as Black Desert Online. What this means is, every time you upgrade an item's lvl, its stats increases. However, every third upgrade in lvl, the chance to fail will increase. Luckily, when you fail the upgrade, the item won't be destroyed or anything. Also, every time you fail, the chance of upgrading the same item again will increase by a little bit. Each upgrade will cost gold and silver. Gold is the currency you can trade between players or buy with real money, while silver is a currency that is bound to your character and cannot be traded, but you can buy silver with gold through a vendor, it is very costly, at about 1000 gold per 10000 silver(I never did it so I don't remember if this is accurate, I just remember other people saying it's a rip off.)

So, bottom line. To reach ilvl 1200-1300 in the first week of that raid's release. You will need to spend $10,000-20,000, and this was in Russia and South Korea, where their cost of living and gdp are lower than USA and Western Europe.

In season 2, upon the release of the new raid, they improved the chances for you to upgrade your gear, so you will be able to reach 1500+ ilvl in the first week by spending about $5,000.

I don't know how long it takes to reach 1500 while being f2p, but some people who farm on 10 accounts have reached 1400 in 6 months.

Now I will make a list(As comprehensive as my memory can make it) of the expenses in game.

Rerolling skill enhancing effects on items
Rerolling stats on items
Consumables
Tickets to enter a raid/dungeon/boss
Bidding on gear(In most cases, in order to get a peace of gear in a raid or a tome for engravings, you need to bid against others like an auction, whoever has the highest bid wins. Then that gold is distributed among all participants.)
Character slots: You need to buy character tickets to open slots to make more characters.
Ship and Ship upgrade materials .
Cards

PVE:

It is action combat. There's no dedicated tank or healer. Bards have shields, buffs, and a heal. They can typically heal you for 50% of your health every few minutes. There's also a shield wielding class that can taunt the boss for several seconds every 30 seconds or so. Otherwise the boss will target people randomly and reset aggro every several seconds.

There's no DPS meter or logs, so you will never know whether you are doing good enough or not, also you will never know who in the group is slacking or taking too much damage. Who is and isn't using the right potions/bombs/skills.

The bosses basic attacks can take between 10-90% of your health depending on what boss/attack/your damage reduction. Boss abilities will typically hit harder. Almost all attacks will CC you either by staggering/freeze/stun/knock up/knock down/etc.

Instanced Bosses: Rewards gear or items needed to craft gear or upgrade gear. There are several tiers of bosses, each tier is harder than the last. You can get rewards from 3 bosses from each tier every day. There are also weekly bosses, those require tickets and you can only get rewards from them once a week.

Instanced bosses are expensive and some of them have soft enrage timers while all of them a hard enrage timer. When you reach the hard enrage timer everybody will die.

You will need consumables.
1, you cannot see a boss on the minimap without using something called a flare. In a random team, it is assumed each person will use 1 flare in the order of their group number. This actually gets very expensive because many bosses will fly away or burrow under ground and move to a different location of the map during the encounter, multiple times. It takes 1 person 5 minutes to cover the entire map. So if you want to try without flares, well, it's going to be very inconvenient since there's a hard enrage timer of 20 minutes and many encounters have 3 bosses you have to kill to get the rewards. You won't get rewards for killing just 1/3 or 2/3.

2: Health potions. There are two types of health potions, normal and % health. You cannot use normal pots in these encounters. The worst % health potion only heal you for 15% of your max health. You can use 3 max of them during the whole 20 minutes. Then, there's the 30/45/60% max health potions. You can use 5 of them in the whole encounter at max. Of course, they are increasingly more expensive.

3: Bombs. In order to break or stagger a boss, you will need different kinds of bombs or skills. Not all classes have all the right skills to break a certain boss. That's why sometimes bombs are necessities.

4: Scarecrows. Scareccrows will taunt the boss for 5-10 seconds, if you out gear the boss it is probably not required but if you are all at the minimum level requirement these are essential for some bosses as they allow your entire team to stand still and dps for 10 seconds.

Note, you do not get your consumables back if you fail the encounter, it just means all the consumables/or ticket(for weekly boss) are wasted.

Raids: Rewards gear, costs tickets, but you can get rewards from them as many times as you want to do them. They are also not too difficult as you can use normal potions. So the main cost in these are the tickets.

Dungeons: Rewards gear or tickets, generally pretty easy.
World Bosses: Generally pretty easy but has a reset timer, also scales with the amount of people attacking it.

World Events: There are events all over the world on islands or big continents, they will show up on the your in game schedule, most of them are easy. There are good rewards for doing them. Usually they have a limit on how many you can do a day or a week.

To elaborate about command tickets, the ones you get 3 of everyday for free, most events in the command center cost command tickets. It used to cost 1 per event when the game came out but now cost several but the rewards also boosted by several times. It used to be character-based, meaning each character get 3 a day, but now it is account based, so your entire account get 3 per day.

Cube(cost command tickets) : Similar to instanced bosses, you can only use expensive consumables. The way to go through cubes is to clear waves of monsters. There's a timer for each wave and you get rewards depending on how many waves you clear. Usually the waves get harder as you progress, but each wave can either give you a buff or debuff. Sometimes you get really bad debuffs like 30% movement speed slow and total darkness(which means you get like a 90% vision reduction), and get a bomb wave(basically suicide bombers that run toward you and explode.) Some bomb explosions will cover half the room, so you won't even see the suicide bomber. Only 1 person need to be alive to clear the wave, so the other 3 people will be revived after the wave clears, but they only get 10-20% of their health back when they revive.


Farming(cost command tickets): there are two locations, each supporting 3 different professions. You need specific skill levels to farm the highest lvl objects. To do this you need tools, the best tools will increase your skill level by a few, allowing to harvest the highest lvl objects. You can't harvest the highest level objects without tools. Tools cost silver and gold to make or buy. There's a timer so you need to have a farming gearset to maximize your profit in the farmlands.

Tower: tower is a solo event where you climb through floors, you can only use expensive consumables. Your health resets every for each floor. Some lvls require very specific items. For example, there's a floor where you fight a boss with a silence debuff. When silenced, you cannot use abilities or even use basic attack, you can only consumables.

PVP:

There are several different types of arenas. The ranked arena is 3v3, where you have 2 teammates gathered via LFG, completely random. You cannot form groups to join. It is timed, so the team with the highest kill count wins the match mostly.

Then there's normal arena. 1v1, 3v3, and FFA. In normal arena, you can enter with friends for the first two modes. 1v1 is not a solo event, it is called last man standing, you join with 2 others on your team. However, it is in the form of a 1v1. If you win the first round, you will fight the 2nd person on the enemy team with whatever health you have left, your cooldowns do not reset either. If you win again you fight the last person. Whichever team
has the last man standing wins. Each round also has a timer, whoever has the highest health wins if the timer comes up.

In all the arenas, your ilvl will be equalized for the most part, but the stats on your gear still matter in the sense of distribution. PVP typically has different desired stats than PVE.

Island PVP happens on the some of the hundreds of islands around the world. There is no gear equalizer so whoever is whaling wins. They can also use bombs and kill 5-10 people with each bomb. There's an Island heart(Collector item that gives you very useful rewards if you get them.) where you are locked onto an island that's only big enough to fit 10 players side by side. Idk if there's a limit to how many people can actually enter the island at once. You fight free for all in order to open boxes to have a 1% chance of obtaining the island heart. There's 3 boxes on the island that each respawn every few minutes or so. Every time you are hit by an attack, it cancels your opening of the chest. Good luck getting that Island Heart, honestly.

Guild VS GUILD. It's like a 10v10 battleground of capture the flag or defend the node. Gear is also not equalized here so it's just for the whales.

CC in pvp: every attack staggers you. There's several different types of cc, stagger/knock/hard cc. There are many skills or abilities that make you immune to stagger. There are some that make you immune to physical CC which means the knocking. There are no skills that make you immune to hard cc. You can however be immune to all cc in 2 instances. One, you are using your spacebar evasion. The animation lasts between 0.1-.5 seconds depending on your class. This has a 5-10s cooldown. During the animation, you are immune to all cc. Two, you got knocked down and is in the process of getting up. Three, you used space bar while knocked down, you will jump back up, this has a very long cooldown.

In general, if you get chain cc'd you are probably dead. Getting chain cc'd from 100-0 isn't that uncommon.

Island Exploration: Exploration is a big part of the game. You need a number of Island Hearts to advance to the next continents. You will obviously have a ship for traveling between islands. There's many ships, each have different requirement for getting it, some are easy and some are extremely hard. For example, to get the fastest ship, if you are trying to progress your gear at the same time, and is a f2p that's not farming on 10 different accounts, you are probably never going to get it. Even if you did, you still have to upgrade it to max level, which is probably never going to happen since it's expensive as hell to even upgrade a cheaper ship to max.

Also you are going to have to upgrade the ships to unlock more slots for the for the sailors. Each sailor(an npc you collect) have a different ability that will be helpful.


Alternatively, can you board an ingame ship for a chunk of silver, how much it costs depends on where you are traveling to. But this is only for continental travel, you can't go to islands or spots on the map in the sea.

Many events or islands will require you to have a specific ship upgraded to a specific level, otherwise your ship will be destroyed and you can't get on the island for the event.

There are also many events where you need a specific profession. For example to get the island heart on mushroom island you need lumbering. Where you cut lvl 4 mushrooms, without lumbering you can only cut the lvl 1 mushroom. There's about 12 nodes on the island and only 1-3 lvl 1 mushroom will be up at any given time. The lvl 1 shroom has a very low drop rate of the island heart, the lvl 4 shrooms have maybe 1-5% droprate? While the lvl 1 is 10x lower. Unfortunately, you are going to need more characters because each character can only max out 1 profession.

That's about all I can think of. Might've missed some things.

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That was... 'unexpected' for this kind of game... Laughing


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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 12:39    Post subject:
Yes everyone who played this on the Russian servers knows the game is p2w all Korean MMOs are that's just a given.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 12:52    Post subject:
Is it a decent singleplayer or play with a couple of friends type game? where i can ignore the mmo and p2w mechanics? I prefer these kind of games solo tbh.
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 13:05    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Is it a decent singleplayer or play with a couple of friends type game? where i can ignore the mmo and p2w mechanics? I prefer these kind of games solo tbh.


It's very much an MMO and the p2w mechanics are deeply ingrained in the game (but only really become hard to ignore at endgame). But yes you can solo pretty much anything till endgame (and even a lot of endgame content) if you want.
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polyluxx




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 13:45    Post subject:
I have the problem when i hold the autoattack button (rightclick) and activate a skill, it doenst register. I have to hammer the key (sometimes). Anyone else with this kind o behavior?
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locke89




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 13:51    Post subject:
After miliking Korea and Russia, now they wanna milk us. Smart Very Happy
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 13:59    Post subject:
AY7TT-TARJM-6C0VE

If someone wants to try it. I really don't want to, lol.
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Balthazaer




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Jun 2021 15:23    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
AY7TT-TARJM-6C0VE

If someone wants to try it. I really don't want to, lol.


Wanted to snatch it and thank you.
But ofc it's already taken without anyone thanking you Smile
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jun 2021 00:16    Post subject:
Some weirdos here just collect games in their steam account so it's unlikely keys last longer than a few minutes.
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